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Here are some of the notables.

Rose - 92
Stephen Jackson - 83
Noah - 82
KG - 83
Pierce - 82
R. Allen - 80
B. Griffin - 85
R. Gay - 86
Z. Randolph - 83
Joe Johnson - 84
J. Smith - 84
Horford - 80
Wade - 96
Bron - 98
Bosh - 80
C. Paul 93
Millsap - 80
A. Jefferson - 81
T. Evans 80
Melo - 91
Amare - 88
Billups - 79
Kobe - 94
Gasol -86
D. Howard - 93
Dirk - 85
Butler - 81
D. Williams 90
W. Chandler - 80
Granger - 81
Prince - 77
RIP - 76
Barbosa - 71
K. Martin - 79
K. Lowry - 76
Scola - 77
T. Parker - 80
Manu - 85
Duncan - 84
Nash - 84
G. Hill - 80
A. Brooks - 75
Westbrook - 88
Durant - 92
Beasley - 78
K. Love - 81
Felton - 75
G. Wallace - 83
L. Aldridge - 83
B. Roy - 78
S. Curry - 80
Ellis - 83
D. Lee - 79
John Wall - 82

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# 401 poilbrun @ 09/30/11 05:15 AM
What I can't wrap my head around is the fact that people who haven't seen the game in play take one stat out of the blue and base their whole opinion on it.

Let's remove names for an example:
Player A has Mid Range at 78, Player B has Mid Range at 95; which one do you choose?
Now, same example, but some more stats: Player A also has Shot on the run, Shot in traffic, and Consistency at 90, while Player B has the same stats at 50; now which do you choose?

Same thing with overall ratings: people will compare players just based on those, letting their opinion skew the reality. Overall is what it says on the box, it takes everything into consideration. So the most athletic guy with the best dunking skills might be a fan favourite and a highlight waiting to happen, but if he can't shoot from range and can't defend, the guy who's average in those three categories will have a higher rating. It seems so simple to grasp that I can't understand why there is so much fuss on the stats.

The other thing to keep in mind: stats don't mean jack! If you want the game to play realistically and to be able to do that, you need to give a player lower stats than would seem normal for him, just do it. What do you prefer: to see Kobe IG play like Kobe IRL on the floor or see Kobe IG have the stats that feel right, but play completely differently than IRL? Get a grip!
 
# 402 jeebs9 @ 09/30/11 08:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by poilbrun
What I can't wrap my head around is the fact that people who haven't seen the game in play take one stat out of the blue and base their whole opinion on it.

Let's remove names for an example:
Player A has Mid Range at 78, Player B has Mid Range at 95; which one do you choose?
Now, same example, but some more stats: Player A also has Shot on the run, Shot in traffic, and Consistency at 90, while Player B has the same stats at 50; now which do you choose?

Same thing with overall ratings: people will compare players just based on those, letting their opinion skew the reality. Overall is what it says on the box, it takes everything into consideration. So the most athletic guy with the best dunking skills might be a fan favourite and a highlight waiting to happen, but if he can't shoot from range and can't defend, the guy who's average in those three categories will have a higher rating. It seems so simple to grasp that I can't understand why there is so much fuss on the stats.

The other thing to keep in mind: stats don't mean jack! If you want the game to play realistically and to be able to do that, you need to give a player lower stats than would seem normal for him, just do it. What do you prefer: to see Kobe IG play like Kobe IRL on the floor or see Kobe IG have the stats that feel right, but play completely differently than IRL? Get a grip!
Thank You!! I was just about to say this.. You said it better.

Everyone who is new this thing. Should read that post.
 
# 403 RedSceptile @ 09/30/11 08:57 AM
Not too mention you can almost guarantee the Drew Gooden's and the Matt Carroll's with 90 mid range cant shoot of the dribble,are terrible in traffic, and probably only have
one or two hot spots.
 
# 404 SdotThaDon @ 09/30/11 09:17 AM
Exactly, all that makes sense to me. I said it several times now mid is a base rating....
 
# 405 jeebs9 @ 09/30/11 09:24 AM
Guys besides all the complaining going on in here. Doesn't anyone find it down right amazing the thought process that goes into the ratings. I would love to see their forumla on a chalk board in front of me right now. Like what else are base ratings? Obviously 3pt shooting would be one. Dribbling would be another one (with ball security, offball hand being supporting ratings).

Thanks guys. I'm going to sit here and try to figure out this forumla now lol.
 
# 406 stillfeelme @ 09/30/11 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jeebs9
Guys besides all the complaining going on in here. Doesn't anyone find it down right amazing the thought process that goes into the ratings. I would love to see their forumla on a chalk board in front of me right now. Like what else are base ratings? Obviously 3pt shooting would be one. Dribbling would be another one (with ball security, offball hand being supporting ratings).

Thanks guys. I'm going to sit here and try to figure out this forumla now lol.
I would love if VC did an insight on how the ratings translated into the game. To be honest I played the demo last night and they are using STATS data system.
 
# 407 ccjj1010 @ 09/30/11 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by stillfeelme
A poll would only show perception and popularity. So he might be top ten in a poll as a poll is a think/feel/perceive type of system. However after the people look at the numbers from real life the truth sets in that he is not great from mid range. A poll is opinion stats line up with the truth, excuses are given afterwards why the polls don't match the stats
A POLL OF NBA PLAYERS AND COACHES big dog. So they are the best at what thy do and they don't know what they are talking about? You don't think NBA players look at stats. NOBODY has any argument on what i'm saying that even his PEERS in the NBA would say he is not a poor midrange shooter flat out. Top ten midrange shooter in the league PERIOD.
 
# 408 jeebs9 @ 09/30/11 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by stillfeelme
I would love if VC did an insight on how the ratings translated into the game. To be honest I played the demo last night and they are using STATS data system.
If you had a sercet recipe. Would you share it with the world?
 
# 409 Yeah...THAT Guy @ 09/30/11 11:23 AM
I just love the guys that are like "DIRK IS WORSE THAN RONDO?!?! WTFFFFF?!?!?!?!"
 
# 410 slimdagreat @ 09/30/11 11:31 AM
I'm a Magic fan, but why is Arenas still a 77?
 
# 411 kingg d @ 09/30/11 11:34 AM
Ricky Rubio 75 from mid range, Zabian Dowdell 90, Pooh Jeter 95, and Brandon Roy 71????

Only thing I can say is... Fire the guy who does all the ratings
 
# 412 Colts18 @ 09/30/11 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jeebs9
If you had a sercet recipe. Would you share it with the world?
That **** ain't a secret recipe. That **** is terrible. Why hide it. LOL Because we will find out the do it with a blindfold on?
 
# 413 nyqua @ 09/30/11 12:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ccjj1010
A POLL OF NBA PLAYERS AND COACHES big dog. So they are the best at what thy do and they don't know what they are talking about? You don't think NBA players look at stats. NOBODY has any argument on what i'm saying that even his PEERS in the NBA would say he is not a poor midrange shooter flat out. Top ten midrange shooter in the league PERIOD.
Well considering the coaches are still putting Kobe on the All-Defensive first team based solely on reputation, I won't hold their opinion to the highest standard.
 
# 414 Yeah...THAT Guy @ 09/30/11 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by nyqua
Well considering the coaches are still putting Kobe on the All-Defensive first team based solely on reputation, I won't hold their opinion to the highest standard.
Lol so true. And nobody here has said Kobe is a poor mid range shooter. A 78 isn't poor. I think the mid-range rating is more about like catch and shoot kinda thing, not crossing over and pulling up for a contested shot.
 
# 415 ccjj1010 @ 09/30/11 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by nyqua
Well considering the coaches are still putting Kobe on the All-Defensive first team based solely on reputation, I won't hold their opinion to the highest standard.
I have heard it all on this website.

So NBA coaches don't know what they are talking about?
Who am I speaking to here? Phil Jackson? Stop playing 2K and watch a game. Time to live out of the videogame fantasy world.
 
# 416 stillfeelme @ 09/30/11 02:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ccjj1010
A POLL OF NBA PLAYERS AND COACHES big dog. So they are the best at what thy do and they don't know what they are talking about? You don't think NBA players look at stats. NOBODY has any argument on what i'm saying that even his PEERS in the NBA would say he is not a poor midrange shooter flat out. Top ten midrange shooter in the league PERIOD.
You basing that off what a hypothetical reputation? Kobe is not great from mid range your opinion of him says he is great his numbers show he average. Your whole argument is based off opinions and hold no weight. Let me ask you this what is the reason why Ray Allen makes his shots? He is not being defended or he makes his shots
 
# 417 jeebs9 @ 09/30/11 03:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Colts18
That **** ain't a secret recipe. That **** is terrible. Why hide it. LOL Because we will find out the do it with a blindfold on?

LOL.... But all these major programming things have a secret forumla behind. I mean one of the biggest and best today is facebook. It may seem simple... But its not in plain sight.
 
# 418 nyqua @ 09/30/11 03:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ccjj1010
I have heard it all on this website.

So NBA coaches don't know what they are talking about?
Who am I speaking to here? Phil Jackson? Stop playing 2K and watch a game. Time to live out of the videogame fantasy world.
So you think Kobe is the best defensive SG in the NBA still? Seriously?
 
# 419 STLRams @ 09/30/11 04:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kingg d
Ricky Rubio 75 from mid range, Zabian Dowdell 90, Pooh Jeter 95, and Brandon Roy 71????

Only thing I can say is... Fire the guy who does all the ratings
And that would be the 2K Insider. This guy has screwed up ratings and some tendencies going back to NBA2K9. I really wish 2K would go another route with how they update there rosters instead of using him. If you go on his blog he seems to favor certain players also when people make request that certain ones deserve a boost. I know 2K is supposedly going off stats to come up with these numbers, but there should be alittle more insight into producing the ratings and tendencies than just number stats. B. Roy 71midrange - wow, Kobe 78mid range, he shot lower than normal last season, but should be atleast a 81 still - wow. Lebron overall 98 WOW, I won't even jump into that argument, I guess he is one step behind Jordan and above every current and legend player now... that's crazy - but that's just my opinion. But yeah 2K needs to let Rashidi or someone else do the rosters other than the 2K insider.
 
# 420 stillfeelme @ 09/30/11 06:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kingg d
Ricky Rubio 75 from mid range, Zabian Dowdell 90, Pooh Jeter 95, and Brandon Roy 71????

Only thing I can say is... Fire the guy who does all the ratings
I don't know about the rest but Roy deserves that rating based on what he did last year. He had a career lows across the board. Look up his numbers and I think you will change your stance on Roy. 3-9 ft 32% 10-15 37.5%, 16-23 36% that is Brandon Roy for 2011. I say he deserve the 71 for mid range. Now he is playing on bad knees whatever but that is where he was last year so his mid range is low. Some of yall are letting perception determine a rating. I know in 2010 pre injury he was a beast but you can't give him a rating of his pre injury stats makes no sense.
 


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