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NBA 2K12 Player Ratings Revealed, Including All Free Agents

12:08 AM - September 27, 2011 by jrose57

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Here are some of the notables.

Rose - 92
Stephen Jackson - 83
Noah - 82
KG - 83
Pierce - 82
R. Allen - 80
B. Griffin - 85
R. Gay - 86
Z. Randolph - 83
Joe Johnson - 84
J. Smith - 84
Horford - 80
Wade - 96
Bron - 98
Bosh - 80
C. Paul 93
Millsap - 80
A. Jefferson - 81
T. Evans 80
Melo - 91
Amare - 88
Billups - 79
Kobe - 94
Gasol -86
D. Howard - 93
Dirk - 85
Butler - 81
D. Williams 90
W. Chandler - 80
Granger - 81
Prince - 77
RIP - 76
Barbosa - 71
K. Martin - 79
K. Lowry - 76
Scola - 77
T. Parker - 80
Manu - 85
Duncan - 84
Nash - 84
G. Hill - 80
A. Brooks - 75
Westbrook - 88
Durant - 92
Beasley - 78
K. Love - 81
Felton - 75
G. Wallace - 83
L. Aldridge - 83
B. Roy - 78
S. Curry - 80
Ellis - 83
D. Lee - 79
John Wall - 82

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# 381 ccjj1010 @ 09/29/11 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Yeah...THAT Guy


	Where did I say anything about being a poor shooter? I said that Matt Carroll has been rated as one of the best shooters in the game for as long as I remember. And I said that Kobe is a good shooter, so where in there did I imply that he is a poor shooter?

I didnt mean you my man. Ididnt mean to post yours.

# 382 SdotThaDon @ 09/29/11 01:44 PM

To you guys saying stats don't mean anything: stats are facts, actually records of what really happened in a season. To says stats don't matter is denying the truth. If stats don't matter why even bother to keep them. Let's just give every player a 99 to please their fans. This is ridiculous, I guess history books don't matter either....

# 383 Vni @ 09/29/11 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SdotThaDon


	To you guys saying stats don't mean anything: stats are facts, actually records of what really happened in a season. To says stats don't matter is denying the truth. If stats don't matter why even bother to keep them. Let's just give every player a 99 to please their fans. This is ridiculous, I guess history books don't matter either....

Nobody has said that stats didn't matter. They said that OVERALL doesnt mean much and can hardly be discussed.

# 384 ccjj1010 @ 09/29/11 01:56 PM

Stats are fact but not everything. If I shot 5/5 all year from 3 do I deserve a 99 three?

# 385 Colts18 @ 09/29/11 02:31 PM

No you don't. % and attempts should be factored. And also to a small degree, reputation.

# 386 Ken North @ 09/29/11 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ccjj1010


	lol who the hell is that? I ARGUED IN A WHOLE BLOG ABOUT MIDRANGE RATINGS. People keep saying on here that kobe is a poor midrange shooter... What? what is he good at then? a close shot? are you kidding me?

Uhm, yes?

He's 38% from 16-23ft... So yeah, that sounds about right.

# 387 JWiLL02 @ 09/29/11 02:41 PM

Sample size is not taken into account with these ratings, it's ridiculous.

How the hell does Pooh Jeter have a 94 mid range rating? Was he 7/8 on the season or something?

With mid range ratings like these I could just run this scrub off screens all game and drop 30 with him on mid range jumpers exclusively.

I guess the one thing missing from these shooting ratings is common sense.

Josh Smith mid 80 3pt 78
Joe Johnson mid 75 3pt 75

?

# 388 jeebs9 @ 09/29/11 02:42 PM

I see a lot things that just keep getting repeated over and over in this thread.

"'Our overall rating formulas are position specific, weighting attributes that are more relevant for that type of player. For example, passing and speed are weighted more for point guards, where rebounding and shot blocking are factored heavily for centers.
Nowitzki was judged as a power forward, which is both his position on the court and an insufficient explanation of his role for the Mavs. While power forwards like Griffin, Pau Gasol (notes) and Zach Randolph (notes) play an interior game, Dirk prefers to play outside the paint and is arguably more of a tall shooting guard on offense than a classic four. As such, his post scoring may rank rather low, which would explain a relatively poor overall ranking. That said, if you play as Dirk you'll probably find that his style and game are approximated pretty well. Formulas don't always produce accurate results, especially when players as unorthodox as Nowitzki are involved.
On the other hand, there is something rather bizarre about Dirk's low rating when Bryant ranks so highly. Again, Kobe is a great player, but all advanced metrics and most expert eyewitness accounts suggest that he's on the downslope of his career. General public perception is clearly a factor here, so no one could blame 2K Sports for boosting Dirk's ratings a bit -- or at least rejiggering their formula -- to help his placement among the NBA elite. 2011 has been Dirk's year and he deserves some attention for it."

# 389 SdotThaDon @ 09/29/11 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken North


	Uhm, yes? He's 38% from 16-23ft... So yeah, that sounds about right.

Not only that but the league average from 16-23 ft is 39.5%, so he's actually below average.....

And again mid is a base stat. It is affected by several other ratings that boost or diminish your success rate.

# 390 ffaacc03 @ 09/29/11 03:46 PM

Many use 2ks default ratings as a excuse to go against people who use stats for attributes calculations ... then again, who says they do ? ... hehe ... at least not going with the examples beeing thrown out here, none of them make sense at all from an statistic perspective ... Ibaka & Zbo one is blasphemy, with the exception being the Kobe example, that partially does.

Again, as soon as we let our biased eyes (or anyone eyes) lead attribute ratings assigments, the results will be as bad (if not worse) than those of the 2kinsider.

Sadly, we cannot account for things this game doesnt have the means to.

# 391 TajDeni @ 09/29/11 04:43 PM

is it just me or does the whole shot consistancy arguement sounds very very illogical...sounds backwards 2 me. I know its there for hot streaks and slumps and what not, but something just seems off to me. i mean how can a player have a 90+ mid range shot and a 50% consistancy...how is it possible to get a rating that high w/o being consistant? shouldnt the 2 go hand n hand? why not just lower his mid range shot? 4tr, its not that i dont get it, im just saying it seems like someone tried to be clever and out-thought themselves.

really glad to see some of the post bringing to light that stats cannot reflect everything, esp as more and more time passes from the actual exp.

2k should find 1 of the community members that ppl trust their ratings work and add them to the pay roll, because aside from the actual player ratings, the player tendencies are usually really questionable as well. so the same way they bring in a community member like 'Czar to give imput on gameplay and whatever else other ways he contributes, they should bring in some1 from the community to do all the player and coaching ratings.

to me, its like why put so much effort into getting all the little details right, only to have questionable player and coaching ratings....this really is such an easy fix; just hire a community professional to do the ratings from now on. very few ppl co-sign the work of the 2k Insider anyway.

# 392 ffaacc03 @ 09/29/11 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TajDeni


	2k should find 1 of the community members that ppl trust their ratings work and add them to the pay roll, because aside from the actual player ratings, the player tendencies are usually really questionable as well. so the same way they bring in a community member like 'Czar to give imput on gameplay and whatever else other ways he contributes, they should bring in some1 from the community to do all the player and coaching ratings. to me, its like why put so much effort into getting all the little details right, only to have questionable player and coaching ratings....this really is such an easy fix; just hire a community professional to do the ratings from now on. very few ppl co-sign the work of the 2k Insider anyway.

With that I agree ... not necessarily as a employee but maybe as an advisor.

# 393 ccjj1010 @ 09/29/11 05:08 PM

Evryone has seen his 38% we got it. People defend Kobe way different then anybody in the league, so 38% is not bad for Kobe at all. Lebron people will settle for his midrange jumper so he shoots better. Somebody tell me right now kobe's midrange isnt top 10 in the league easily. I dont know how you think he scores 25 ppg? Are you serious on here?

# 394 TajDeni @ 09/29/11 05:40 PM

dont know if the quote will work...

whether they bring him in as employee or advisor, he should be somehow compensated 4 his services tho. that could be his only job or involvement at 2k, getting the ratings and tendencies right. now i dont know how much that job would pay or what perks it would involve but it should come with equiped w/ something.

if the person takes their craft seriously thats alot of research and work..

# 395 Paul Pierce_OS @ 09/29/11 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ccjj1010


	Evryone has seen his 38% we got it. People defend Kobe way different then anybody in the league, so 38% is not bad for Kobe at all. Lebron people will settle for his midrange jumper so he shoots better. Somebody tell me right now kobe's midrange isnt top 10 in the league easily. I dont know how you think he scores 25 ppg? Are you serious on here?

totally agree should have an 85 mid range jumper

# 396 SdotThaDon @ 09/29/11 09:26 PM

There are subjective situations with stats, but you guys are fans and watch basketball just like I do. We know exactly how Kobe's season went it only ended a few months back...38% is 38%, regardless of shot selection, injury, defensive attention, etc. How can you say what his rating "should" be, when we have no remote idea how they calculated these in the first place? Or even understand exactly how the ratings work? Everyone else's ratings follow the same formulas and rules, why should there be an exception? "Kobe's not a 78 period." Well he apparently isn't higher than 78 either.

# 397 stillfeelme @ 09/29/11 10:53 PM

The amount of excuses given to Kobe's midrange rating is disgusting. Kobe couldn't cosign the excuses given in this thread. Do you guys really think Kobe is one of the few guys in the league that is defended well from 16-23 feet? The defense being played has caused him to shoot 38%? This is one of the top players in the world and yall are saying the defense is the cause of his poor shooting? Too much credit is being given to the defense. What about from 10-15 ft when he shot great. Are yall saying he is now open from that range and that is the only reason why he shot good from that range? That makes no sense and all I can say is stop making excuses.

# 398 ccjj1010 @ 09/30/11 01:46 AM

IF THERE WAS A POLL IN THE NBA OF PLAYERS AND COACHES, KOBE WOULD BE MENTIONED IN THE TOP 10 MINIMUM OF BEST MIDRANGE SHOOTERS IN THE LEAGUE. PERIOD. SOMEONE PLEASE SAY NO TO THAT.

# 399 SdotThaDon @ 09/30/11 01:57 AM

The problem with that is: it's their OPINIONS. That's why I can't buy what you're selling. You're giving opinions. 1st your own, now others' as basis for your argument. I'm giving you cold hard facts. Not what I thought happened last year, not explanations about last year, but what actually got recorded in the history books last year. Official Record.

# 400 stillfeelme @ 09/30/11 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ccjj1010


	IF THERE WAS A POLL IN THE NBA OF PLAYERS AND COACHES, KOBE WOULD BE MENTIONED IN THE TOP 10 MINIMUM OF BEST MIDRANGE SHOOTERS IN THE LEAGUE. PERIOD. SOMEONE PLEASE SAY NO TO THAT.

A poll would only show perception and popularity. So he might be top ten in a poll as a poll is a think/feel/perceive type of system. However after the people look at the numbers from real life the truth sets in that he is not great from mid range. A poll is opinion stats line up with the truth, excuses are given afterwards why the polls don't match the stats

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