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NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #4 - Playcall System

01:01 PM - September 2, 2011 by Steve_OS

Check out today's NBA 2K12 Developer Insight #4 from Gameplay Director, Rob Jones.

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# 61 Self313 @ 09/02/11 02:34 PM

leaking out on offense is what monte ellis does...

getting in position to push the break instead of crashing the glass

# 62 damaja @ 09/02/11 02:35 PM

Hopefully persistent offense doesnt become another means to abuse using Melo and lebron online...there's already enough users who simply shoot every shot with these guys.

Also I hope 2k implements consequences for the constant pressure defense strategy such as faster fatigue. This is another thing that I foresee the majority of users online employing.

Other than that, playcalling sounds awesome. However, I wished you could choose quick plays where u decide which players post up.

# 63 Self313 @ 09/02/11 02:35 PM

good call Guesswho

you know ya stuff too I see lol

# 64 guesswhozbak17 @ 09/02/11 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Knickerbocker


	AH I get it now. It's actually very smart. Only one strategy may be employed at a time. So using leak out as an offensive one it still allows you to use a defensive strategy with it. Which means you will be able to lock the paint and still leak for a FB. And if the FB fails you can then just change strategies on the offense. Makes sense. As long as you can change the offensive strategy while being on D. xD

In 2k11 you couldn't call a defensive play while on offense. And you could not call an offensive play while on defense. UNLESS that is changed for 2k12, we will have to see.

# 65 tweezy08 @ 09/02/11 02:36 PM

Bring on the demo babyyyyyyyy

# 66 JCEVO @ 09/02/11 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by da ThRONe


	You would think "some" companies would get that fans want what they see on tv even if they don't know how or why? You can not make a simulation and constantly cut corners on fundamentals . Hats of to 2K for bring hardcore basketball to causal fans instead of the other way around!

amen. also i want to point out that 2k is doing this without competition at the moment. they could have took a year off like "some" companies are doing now, instead they took the other approach to destroy the competition once its comes back

# 67 RipCity71252 @ 09/02/11 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by damaja


	Hopefully persistent offense doesnt become another means to abuse using Melo and lebron online...there's already enough users who simply shoot every shot with these guys. Also I hope 2k implements consequences for the constant pressure defense strategy such as faster fatigue. This is another thing that I foresee the majority of users online employing. Other than that, playcalling sounds awesome. However, I wished you could choose quick plays where u decide which players post up.

Not really sure why 2k took away the Off the ball control from 2k10. Probably had to sacrifice it for another control feature.

# 68 domidomdomz @ 09/02/11 02:38 PM

Finally... authentic inbound plays!!!

# 69 AlphaTrojan @ 09/02/11 02:39 PM

I was fearing this game would being 2k11.5, boy was I wrong. Cannot wait to get my hands on this game.

# 70 Knickerbocker @ 09/02/11 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by guesswhozbak17


	In 2k11 you couldn't call a defensive play while on offense. And you could not call an offensive play while on defense. UNLESS that is changed for 2k12, we will have to see.

Yep but these are strategies and not plays. We didnt have them in 2k11.

Also there is an offense strategy for crashing boards, so I guess the leak out is the counter to it.

# 71 guesswhozbak17 @ 09/02/11 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RipCity71252


	Sound pretty logical to me. It's like real life and you see a team trying push the tempo. Call a timeout and adjust for it accordingly. But who knows, maybe the AI is programmed to do that on their own. It's just something we'll have to wait and see on.

I like the concept of coaching WHILE playing. I'm just hope that if someone is killing me on the break that I don't have to *Pause the game,* make the necessary adjustments, *Unpause the game.* I would like to keep the natural flow of the game. That's why I didn't understand how "Leak Out" was an offensive adjustment rather than defensive being that I don't see a counter to it via the defensive menu screen.

# 72 guesswhozbak17 @ 09/02/11 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Self313


	good call Guesswho you know ya stuff too I see lol

Thank you lol, I've coached and played on high levels.

# 73 Self313 @ 09/02/11 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by damaja


	Hopefully persistent offense doesnt become another means to abuse using Melo and lebron online...there's already enough users who simply shoot every shot with these guys. Also I hope 2k implements consequences for the constant pressure defense strategy such as faster fatigue. This is another thing that I foresee the majority of users online employing. Other than that, playcalling sounds awesome. However, I wished you could choose quick plays where u decide which players post up.

in the insight it spoke of an option to key in on key players
as well as defending the paint (going under screens) and much more

cheesing is dead now, at this point its on u to execute

.....or so they say but Im excited, my fiance' has to go thru that week or 2 of neglect she went thru last year... lmao

# 74 guesswhozbak17 @ 09/02/11 02:46 PM

I don't think you understand what I mean. If there IS a strategy to crash the offensive boards, that means you're telling your players to crash the boards while your teammate is shooting.

Leaking out is telling your players (guards primarily) to not box out and start to leak out TO start offense (being that you're already playing defense). It would make more sense for that to be on the defensive menu.

I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense to tell an offensive player to "Leak Out" if you already have the ball...where is he supposed to "leak out" to?

# 75 domidomdomz @ 09/02/11 02:48 PM

Ability to save these plays for online use will be the icing to this yummy cake!

# 76 hoodkid205 @ 09/02/11 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by guesswhozbak17


	I don't think you understand what I mean. If there IS a strategy to crash the offensive boards, that means you're telling your players to crash the boards while your teammate is shooting. Leaking out is telling your players (guards primarily) to not box out and start to leak out TO start offense (being that you're already playing defense). It would make more sense for that to be on the defensive menu. I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense to tell an offensive player to "Leak Out" if you already have the ball...where is he supposed to "leak out" to?

GREAT POINT!!!! exactly what i was thinkin

# 77 Knickerbocker @ 09/02/11 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by guesswhozbak17


	I don't think you understand what I mean. If there IS a strategy to crash the offensive boards, that means you're telling your players to crash the boards while your teammate is shooting. Leaking out is telling your players (guards primarily) to not box out and start to leak out TO start offense (being that you're already playing defense). It would make more sense for that to be on the defensive menu. I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense to tell an offensive player to "Leak Out" if you already have the ball...where is he supposed to "leak out" to?

I understand perfectly what you mean. Though leak being on the offensive side of a strategy it allows you to leak out and lock the paint at the same time.

Example: D strategy set on lock the paint/O strategy leak out Oponent strategy crash boards.

So against the oponent that mostly drives you are able to lock the paint and when he misses and crashes the board you have a player leaking and u can initiate a fast break. If leak was a D strategy it would prevent you from using the lock the pain options.

# 78 Kingofthecouch @ 09/02/11 02:54 PM

Like others have said.... If you cant save the playbooks its 2k10 and 11 all over again. But I'm sure Czar had a voice in making sure that uers would be able to save plays. We can only hope.

# 79 secondcity t @ 09/02/11 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Self313


	in the insight it spoke of an option to key in on key players as well as defending the paint (going under screens) and much more cheesing is dead now, at this point its on u to execute

I highly doubt cheesing will come to an end. The advanced cheesers will run money plays instead. That being said, I loved this insight. It seems like they're adding an element of human chess to the game and forcing people to use their minds instead.

# 80 The 24th Letter @ 09/02/11 02:55 PM

Your Brons and Melos are always going to be a pain in the *** man...(as they should be to an extent)

but 2k has been making it progressively harder to "cheese" IMO...Think about 2k8-10

Ive never felt more empowered to stop your LeBron types than I have in 2k11....post patch anyway...

I just KNEW the Heat would be ridiculously hard to stop in 2k11 but im honestly like 25+ and 5 against them....alot of those victorys with the Hornets.

if 2k12 is even a small step up well be fine.

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