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Madden NFL 12 Player Ratings - Green Bay Packers and Minnesota Vikings

06:40 AM - August 18, 2011 by Steve_OS

ESPN The Gamer has posted the Madden NFL 12 player ratings for the Green Bay Packers and Minnesota Vikings.

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# 81 DCEBB2001 @ 08/18/11 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bucky60


	Since your argument is Quarless is so much faster than Finley. Implying Quarless would not have been tackled by Allen. Since your argument is Quarless is so much faster than Finley. Implying Quarless would not have been tackled by Allen. Implying that Quarless can outrun DB's and S's while Finley can't. And here is the kicker.......... You said it here.

1. The video referring to where Allen runs him down is not referring to Quarless at all. It is alluding to the fact that Finley is not worthy of an 86 SPD because an 86 SPD guy should not have been caught on that play.

2. I was simply providing examples of where Quarless has had some deeper grabs. Not implying that neither can or can't but just that Quarless is at least as good at getting a big yardage grab of over 20 yards.

3. I never said he was ONLY good at jumping and not at running. I just said that he was BETTER at out leaping a DB than running against a DB one on one and running by him. In fact, I even said that Finley is NOT a bad runner at all. So saying he is "only" good at jumping as you accuse me of saying would completely negate that statement...which is clearly not the case.

# 82 genghisfrog @ 08/18/11 09:58 PM

In-game 40s? LOL, yeah that is real accurate. Jesus.

Also, I'm looking at the ratings you have on your website. Are those up to date ratings that your site came up with? I really hope they are from preseason of last year.

Edit. I see rookies from this year on it so I'm assuming it is recent. Just wow at some of the ratings. Sitton an 82? LOL, Shields a 69.LOL, I'm sorry but I can't take you seriously on ratings if you came up with those.

# 83 genghisfrog @ 08/18/11 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ_Bills9


	Speed has nothing to do with how much separation you can get on a route. That's route running and how well the DB covers the route. JerMichael Finley isn't fast. This is a fact. Quarless is faster than him. This also a fact. No point debating this because it's true. Finley should be a mid 70 guy in speed. But frankly players in this game aren't accurately rated in speed across the board. Vernon Davis should be at least 15 points higher than Jermichael based on 40 and based on in-game film. Speed is speed. Please rate it correctly Donny.

I didn't realize 86 speed was fast.

# 84 DCEBB2001 @ 08/18/11 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by genghisfrog


	In-game 40s? LOL, yeah that is real accurate. Jesus. Also, I'm looking at the ratings you have on your website. Are those up to date ratings that your site came up with? I really hope they are from preseason of last year. Edit. I see rookies from this year on it so I'm assuming it is recent. Just wow at some of the ratings. Sitton an 82? LOL, Shields a 69.LOL, I'm sorry but I can't take you seriously on ratings if you came up with those.

The in-game 40s is part of a project my colleague at TSX is doing. You can check out the thread here:

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-day-data.html

The site is recent. However, if you would read the FBGratings thread, you would understand that the ratings are stretched. 90s are much more elite. Sitton, you can see, is the best rated OL on the team. The ratings system has gotten some rave reviews. It was the feature of an OS radio program earlier this year. Players are rated very differently, but I know of many that have preferred it. I suggest you check it out and understand how players are rated before rushing to judgement :

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ange-game.html

# 85 DCEBB2001 @ 08/18/11 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ_Bills9


	Speed has nothing to do with how much separation you can get on a route. That's route running and how well the DB covers the route. JerMichael Finley isn't fast. This is a fact. Quarless is faster than him. This also a fact. No point debating this because it's true. Finley should be a mid 70 guy in speed. But frankly players in this game aren't accurately rated in speed across the board. Vernon Davis should be at least 15 points higher than Jermichael based on 40 and based on in-game film. Speed is speed. Please rate it correctly Donny.

THANK YOU!!!

# 86 genghisfrog @ 08/18/11 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DCEBB2001


	The in-game 40s is part of a project my colleague at TSX is doing. You can check out the thread here: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-day-data.html The site is recent. However, if you would read the FBGratings thread, you would understand that the ratings are stretched. 90s are much more elite. Sitton, you can see, is the best rated OL on the team. The ratings system has gotten some rave reviews. It was the feature of an OS radio program earlier this year. Players are rated very differently, but I know of many that have preferred it. I suggest you check it out and understand how players are rated before rushing to judgement : http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ange-game.html

You have Brandon Underwood and Jarrett Bush rated higher than Shields. It says all I need to know about your site.

# 87 DCEBB2001 @ 08/18/11 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by genghisfrog


	You have Brandon Underwood and Jarrett Bush rated higher than Shields. It says all I need to know about your site.

If you would read the thread, you would understand that injuries play a part in the OVR rating. These ratings are from the end of last season when Shields suffered a shoulder sprain in the Super Bowl.

Please READ the thread before making me reiterate information in this thread. Or at least, bring it up in the FBGratings thread please. Let's stay on topic here regarding EAs ratings of the Packers and Vikings.

# 88 DCEBB2001 @ 08/18/11 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ_Bills9


	86 speed is very fast. Faster than pretty much any tight end in the league should be running. IMO 85 and up is 4.5 and under. In other words, there shouldn't be that many guys outside of running backs, WR's, and DB's that are above an 86 in speed. The ratings just aren't very good in this game. Poor job for many years in this department from the team at EA.

Agreed. I have gotten rid of the over-inflation, for this very same fact, in the FBG system.

# 89 genghisfrog @ 08/18/11 10:20 PM

Then your system is terrible if Shields is a 69 because he sprained his shoulder in the Super Bowl. Just calling a spade a spade.

# 90 brettmickey @ 08/18/11 10:21 PM

Yeah Buffalo's new inside backer Barnett is an 88. Championship!!! haha ok maybe not championship, actually definitely not championship, but improvement nonetheless.

# 91 genghisfrog @ 08/18/11 10:23 PM

Well, J-Mike's catch is underrated and his speed is overrated. Can we agree on that?

# 92 DCEBB2001 @ 08/18/11 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by genghisfrog


	Then your system is terrible if Shields is a 69 because he sprained his shoulder in the Super Bowl. Just calling a spade a spade.

You simply have to understand how the system works. Just like in Madden, Injuries affect your OVR rating. Expect him to be closer to the mid-70s by week one.

# 93 aceoye @ 08/18/11 10:28 PM

lol Jermichael isnt fast ok..hope he doesnt get injured this year..Ive heard countless times by troy aikman from watching the packers game that Finley has speed like a WR which he displays everytime he performs..otherwise someone as high as profile as troy aikman wouldnt be saying..And about the 40 time again quarless was in shape when he did that, in traing camp he was overweight and MM described him as sluggish..

# 94 DCEBB2001 @ 08/18/11 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by genghisfrog


	Well, J-Mike's catch is underrated and his speed is overrated. Can we agree on that?

I have his SPD at 77 with 89 CTH but 94 SPC and CIT with 95 RTE.

# 95 DCEBB2001 @ 08/18/11 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bucky60


	Barnett is rated 88? Is that EA rating or DCEB's? Cause Barnett is coming off an injury too.

I have Barnett at 86 WITH the injury.

# 96 DCEBB2001 @ 08/18/11 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ_Bills9


	Yeah, he should have great route running and great hands. Average speed and low jump rating though.

LOL I have his JMP at 71...ouch!

# 97 DCEBB2001 @ 08/18/11 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by aceoye


	lol Jermichael isnt fast ok..hope he doesnt get injured this year..Ive heard countless times by troy aikman from watching the packers game that Finley has speed like a WR which he displays everytime he performs..otherwise someone as high as profile as troy aikman wouldnt be saying..And about the 40 time again quarless was in shape when he did that, in traing camp he was overweight and MM described him as sluggish..

McCarthy also said the entire offense was sluggish! Let's see if his speed gets adjusted later on.

And if Aikman said LIKE a WR, that means similar, not pertaining to being EXACTLY that of a WR. If your average WR has a speed of 83, then Finley isn't too far off in my system.

# 98 Bellsprout @ 08/18/11 10:32 PM

But naaaahhh. Finley can't jump.

# 99 DCEBB2001 @ 08/18/11 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ_Bills9


	Maybe it's just me, but I find Aikman to be insufferable. Shouldn't let anyone who's suffered that much head trauma in the booth.

LOL! Man, I have to buy you a beer!

Cheers!

# 100 DCEBB2001 @ 08/18/11 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayman


	But naaaahhh. Finley can't jump.

Well, it Looks like Clark's foot is on the ground here, dragging the turf as you can see.

Clark is listed at 5-11 or 71 inches.

And to me it seems like the bottom of Finley's foot is about 3/8 the height of Clark off of the ground, or 26.625 inches.

Just under what he tested at the combine at 27.5 inches.

Plus, his leg is bent a bit meaning that his leg, if fully extended is actually closer to the ground that that even. About right if you ask me.

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