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NCAA Football 12 Roster Glitch Confirmed, Patch to Address Concerns

03:00 PM - July 20, 2011 by skins5680

Christian McLeod has confirmed the NCAA Football 12 roster glitch will be addressed in an upcoming patch. The fix for now? Are you ready for this? Delete your named roster file.

What are the problems you ask? Here are just a few comments from the OS community.

One of the NCAA Football 12 Software Engineer's posted this topic (roster related), in hopes to get some things resolved.

via skins5680

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	When you edit the name of a scrambling QB it changes them to balanced and editing a balanced QB changes them to scrambling. I noticed when i downloaded a roster with names that Denard Robinson was shown as a balanced QB so i went back to the default roster and he was back to a scrambler. So i played a game with the named roster and he attempted zero scrambles. I then played a game with the default roster and he scrambled five times in the first two drives.

via Gotmadskillzson

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	I seen this last week when I downloaded Fairdale Kings rosters for the 360. It just isn't the QBs tendancy that changes, it is also the pass rusher, coverage guys, hard hitters. Everybody tendancy description changes...... I noticed it also effected the Kick off and punt returns for the CPU. And effected the punt blocking the user. With no names, I was able to return punts back for a TD sometimes with a good enough returner. With names, the gunners get down the field super fast like they did in NCAA 11. With out names, the CPU was able to return punts and kick offs back for TDs on me. With names, their blocking is non existent and the cpu have a hard time making it to the 30 yard line on kick offs and on Punt returns they get 3 yards now, my gunners get down the field so fast now I be right on top of them as soon as they catch the ball. So as it stands, no names seem to give the better game play. Being that other players tendancies have changed, I noticed some things. 1. LBs get a lot of tips and INTs on named rosters, even when they aren't in position to do so. 2. Safeties who suppose to be heavy hitters, turn into coverage guys and Intercept passes they normally wouldn't. 3. WRs get off the line quicker on named rosters and they hit stick tackle people on Ints. I had intercepted a pass and a WR hit sticked me. 4. Thomas with his new found strength is now more likely to keep the ball on read option plays. More like 90% of the time now. This was the same way in NCAA 11 when you made a QB's strength too high. 5. DEs don't generate a pass rush on named rosters like they do on non named rosters. Now I am REALLY glad I didn't delete the default roster. I will have that to play until they fixed the name rosters issue. Way too many players to edit get them back to what they suppose to be tendancy wise. Which is another thing, with the work around even though they back to their correct tendancy, their ratings will be out of whack. Good players will be made weaker, weaker bad players will be made stronger.

via buckeye02

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	Same issue with no patch. Also messed around, it changes the tendency for every single player. Im thinking that the rosters will have to be named again if this is patched. How can they patch it to go in reverse and correct tendencies on already named rosters? Looks like a more realistic patch is a fix to keep it from changing for future named rosters.

via Bumble14

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	Just received confirmation that this issue is being looked into heavily by the guys at EA. Be patient--there is a sizable amount of testing with different design divisions to identify the issue and look into a possible fix. It would be helpful if you can please put together a chart showing the following for all positions affected by this issue. I would then like to provide this information to EA. This would also help with making community edits if necessary. Thanks. Position: Default Tendency: New Tendency: Result:

via BaylorBearBryant

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	Well, so far... Position: Quarterback Default Tendency: Scrambler New Tendency: Balanced Result: Default scrambling quarterbacks hardly scramble at all. Position: Quarterback Default Tendency: Balanced New Tendency: Scrambler Result: Default balanced quarterbacks scramble all the time. Position: Running back Default Tendency: Speed New Tendency: Balanced Result: Default speed backs act as balanced backs. They'll attempt power moves too often. Position: Running back Default Tendency: Balanced New Tendency: Speed Result: Default balanced backs act as speed backs. They'll never attempt power moves.

If you want to read more about the ongoing NCAA Football 12 roster glitch, simply read the replies to this topic.

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# 181 buckeye02 @ 07/21/11 02:25 AM

Same issue with no patch.

Also messed around, it changes the tendency for every single player. Im thinking that the rosters will have to be named again if this is patched.

How can they patch it to go in reverse and correct tendencies on already named rosters?

Looks like a more realistic patch is a fix to keep it from changing for future named rosters.

Looks like a real bummer, when will they patch it, hopefully it can be done with a tuner, and can they fix it without making the game worse??? Big questions.

# 182 LionsFanNJ @ 07/21/11 02:26 AM

yeah no luck with making a completely new player with his exact ratings. Its the same thing. Create him with all the same ratings and it says scrambler on the edit screen. Back on the main screen he's balanced.

# 183 atlplayboy23 @ 07/21/11 02:27 AM

Its true EA needs to fix this asap. Played Michigan Denard Robinson actually played like a human was controlling him. End of 3rd qr 13-22 146 2 td 1 int rushing 15 for 109 long of 34. With only one called option play. Hopefully there is a way to fix this

# 184 BaylorBearBryant @ 07/21/11 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by buckeye02


	Same issue with no patch. Also messed around, it changes the tendency for every single player. Im thinking that the rosters will have to be named again if this is patched. How can they patch it to go in reverse and correct tendencies on already named rosters? Looks like a more realistic patch is a fix to keep it from changing for future named rosters. Looks like a real bummer, when will they patch it, hopefully it can be done with a tuner, and can they fix it without making the game worse??? Big questions.

# 185 Redacted01 @ 07/21/11 02:35 AM

So it turns out I have the EA glitch. My body has been an excessive sleeper for the past 3 years and now I don't have the ability to fall asleep... Must have the wrong tendency being used.

Anybody want me to help crack the source code?

What silly little piece of code could be in there that equates editing a player to reversing a tendency (not all tendencies) to another case on the roster screen which leads to gameplay issues? EA can solve my thesis while I fix this. I'm trying to think up another test that doesn't involve crazy changes.

# 186 JohnDoe8865 @ 07/21/11 02:37 AM

In the dev statement about the "Start" screen crash, he mentions tables I believe. Hold on and I'll find it.

Ok here it is -

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	Explanation - It is a crash that occurs after the Press Start screen and after the connecting to the EA servers pop-up, but before the Main Menu appears. It will appear as if the screen is frozen. If you hit this crash, the only thing you can do is reboot your console. It occurs on both 360 and PS3. I think the crash is caused by some problems with one of the save files. Most users seem to confirm that a roster file is the problem, though some users have reported other files being the problem. It is not any particular roster file that is the problem. Like, it is not some specific downloadable roster causing the crash. It seems like in most cases it is the default, auto-saved roster file which has issues. The problems with the roster file are likely not caused by any intentional changes the user made. Like, the problems are not that someone changed a name a certain way or created a specific type of player. The problems are more severe, like whole database tables being missing from the roster file. That is not something any user can do intentionally.

that post was from:

DobzimusPrime
NCAA Football 12 Software Engineer

# 187 jmel1125 @ 07/21/11 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dochalladay32


	So it turns out I have the EA glitch. My body has been an excessive sleeper for the past 3 years and now I don't have the ability to fall asleep... Must have the wrong tendency being used. Anybody want me to help crack the source code? What silly little piece of code could be in there that equates editing a player to reversing a tendency (not all tendencies) to another case on the roster screen which leads to gameplay issues? EA can solve my thesis while I fix this. I'm trying to think up another test that doesn't involve crazy changes.

maybe we make them into pocket passers and see what happens lol

# 188 buckeye02 @ 07/21/11 02:44 AM

I posted the issue at EAs website and they delete the topic in mere minutes. Whats the deal with that?

# 189 JohnDoe8865 @ 07/21/11 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by buckeye02


	I posted the issue at EAs website and they delete the topic in mere minutes. Whats the deal with that?

Why doesn't that surprise me?

# 190 jmel1125 @ 07/21/11 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by buckeye02


	I posted the issue at EAs website and they delete the topic in mere minutes. Whats the deal with that?

just don't wanna do anything, they workin on madden 12, i tried lookin on website where did you find the contact us stuff?

# 191 BaylorBearBryant @ 07/21/11 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by buckeye02


	I posted the issue at EAs website and they delete the topic in mere minutes. Whats the deal with that?

I'm not sure I understand why they would do that. Unless they know a lot more than they're letting on. If they do, boy that'll be the last time I buy an NCAA game from them...

# 192 buckeye02 @ 07/21/11 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnDoe8865


	In the dev statement about the "Start" screen crash, he mentions tables I believe. Hold on and I'll find it. Ok here it is - that post was from: DobzimusPrime NCAA Football 12 Software Engineer

Im confused, link to this please?

# 193 Redacted01 @ 07/21/11 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jmel1125


	maybe we make them into pocket passers and see what happens lol

Yea, that's what is weird. It takes people to balanced. If you make a "balanced" scrambler into a pocket passer, I believe he remains a pocket passer. But if you make his tendencies into that of a balanced, he's designated a scrambler. It doesn't make sense based on the ratings, though. Generically auto-named Denard Robinson gets more yards per carry in a simmed dynasty than does roster edited Denard Robinson. They have the same ratings; all that changes is a description. Those labels seem to hold more power than the numbers.

# 194 BaylorBearBryant @ 07/21/11 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnDoe8865


	In the dev statement about the "Start" screen crash, he mentions tables I believe. Hold on and I'll find it. Ok here it is - Explanation - It is a crash that occurs after the Press Start screen and after the connecting to the EA servers pop-up, but before the Main Menu appears. It will appear as if the screen is frozen. If you hit this crash, the only thing you can do is reboot your console. It occurs on both 360 and PS3. I think the crash is caused by some problems with one of the save files. Most users seem to confirm that a roster file is the problem, though some users have reported other files being the problem. It is not any particular roster file that is the problem. Like, it is not some specific downloadable roster causing the crash. It seems like in most cases it is the default, auto-saved roster file which has issues. The problems with the roster file are likely not caused by any intentional changes the user made. Like, the problems are not that someone changed a name a certain way or created a specific type of player. The problems are more severe, like whole database tables being missing from the roster file. That is not something any user can do intentionally. that post was from: DobzimusPrime NCAA Football 12 Software Engineer

This could be monumental. I really, really, really don't like the sound of this.

# 195 jmel1125 @ 07/21/11 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dochalladay32


	Yea, that's what is weird. It takes people to balanced. If you make a "balanced" scrambler into a pocket passer, I believe he remains a pocket passer. But if you make his tendencies into that of a balanced, he's designated a scrambler. It doesn't make sense based on the ratings, though. Generically auto-named Denard Robinson gets more yards per carry in a simmed dynasty than does roster edited Denard Robinson. They have the same ratings; all that changes is a description. Those labels seem to hold more power than the numbers.

yeah i played with two different rosters, gators and gamingtailgate and he didn't run. They did 5 man set and he stayed in pocket and got sacked, im using tcu but still robinson had space to get a touchdown, now im seeing with generic

# 196 BaylorBearBryant @ 07/21/11 02:54 AM

I attempted to post this information in NCAA Football's Tech Forum on EA's site. We'll see what happens...

# 197 Redacted01 @ 07/21/11 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BaylorBearBryant


	I attempted to post this information in NCAA Football's Tech Forum on EA's site. We'll see what happens...

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# 198 BaylorBearBryant @ 07/21/11 02:56 AM

Here's the thread on EA's site...for now.

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/7441733.page

# 199 Potatoes002 @ 07/21/11 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dochalladay32


	Deleted in 3... 2... 1...

Worth a shot, these issues have to be brought to light.

# 200 Redacted01 @ 07/21/11 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BaylorBearBryant


	Here's the thread on EA's site...for now. http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/7441733.page

Love the sig by the way. Must be a disaster if Pittsburgh is in or near 1st.

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