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Madden NFL 12 - Dynamic Player Performance to Play a Role During Games (IGN)

03:38 PM - June 2, 2011 by phillysouljah

Looks like the dynamic player performance mechanic will play a role DURING games and will rub off on other players. The traits sound interesting, as well. Check out the full Madden NFL 12 Dynamic Player Performance article, right here.

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	"Previously, I revealed how Madden NFL 12's Franchise mode handles fluctuations of a player's performance over the course of a season. Well, that stuff applies to every play of every game. Every player is rated on their confidence and consistency, which helps determine how much they are impacted by good and bad play. That's right � players don't just affect themselves, but can influence an entire team. When a QB has it going, it can energize an entire offense. A great leader, for instance, can boost not only his own play, but those around him. And influential players who lose confidence easily can lower the play of the entire team. It works both ways."

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# 41 azdawgpound @ 06/02/11 06:05 PM

this is gonna be an interesting yr for madden esp with this now and not just effecting the one player but whole team esp if your team like mine the browns have wr's that can't catch so say that effects team and what if the rb fumbles a few times should be very interesting how much it really effects the game... esp online i can see it already with ppl complaining that there one sided now because there afraid pass and have wr not catch ball or rb has bad day or defense.

# 42 phillysouljah @ 06/02/11 06:11 PM

I'm just pointing out how can new Vick be erratic and have 20-point swings if the man didn't even have a single bad game all last season? That makes no sense.

Even if Aaron Rodgers was better... who cares? This is not a comparison of QB's. It's trying to understand the basis for this claim that new Vick is erratic. How can he be when he didn't even have a bad game to dip down to?

# 43 roadman @ 06/02/11 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by phillysouljah


	I'm just pointing out how can new Vick be erratic and have 20-point swings if the man didn't even have a single bad game all last season? That makes no sense. Even if Aaron Rodgers was better... who cares? This is not a comparison of QB's. It's trying to understand the basis for this claim that new Vick is erratic. How can he be when he didn't even have a bad game to dip down to?

Bad games are subjective opinions.

Question for you.

Who was better, Vick in the first half of the season or Vick in the second half of the season?

I thought Vick in the last few games, including the playoff game, struggled or didn't put up the numbers he did in the first half of the season. Just my opinion.

And yes, you do compare him to other QB's to find out if the other QB's who are above him are erratic at times.

# 44 phillysouljah @ 06/02/11 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by roadman


	Bad games are subjective opinions. Question for you. Who was better, Vick in the first half of the season or Vick in the second half of the season? I thought Vick in the last few games, including the playoff game, struggled or didn't put up the numbers he did in the first half of the season. Just my opinion. And yes, you do compare him to other QB's to find out if the other QB's who are above him are erratic at times.

No, it's not subjective when you're talking MADDEN RATINGS!

I keep reading a 20-point swing with Vick. Vick is what? A 91? I can't say he had any games where he was as bad as a 71. Can you?

# 45 roadman @ 06/02/11 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by phillysouljah


	No, it's not subjective when you're talking MADDEN RATINGS! I keep reading a 20-point swing with Vick. Vick is what? A 91? I can't say he had any games where he was as bad as a 71. Can you?

A 20 pt swing is a worse case scenario. It's a video game, time to relax a bit.

You didn't answer my question.

Let's say Vick throws 3 int's in the game. Doesn't that warrant some kind of down ward swing?

Let's say Vick throws 3 int's in the game. Doesn't that warrant some kind of down ward swing?

# 46 Phobia @ 06/02/11 06:29 PM

All I can say is I am officially pumped for Madden 12!!! I have not been this amped for a Madden title since well Madden 2005.

# 47 Only1LT @ 06/02/11 06:33 PM

Many players have runs where they look all world, when they really aren't. Elvis Grbac was the shizz for a minute lol.

Sorry, but I think that second half Vick is a better indication of Vick than first half. There's nothing "new" about Michael Vick.

As for the 20pt swing thing:

1- I think that was just to show an extreme example and they just happened to chose Vick as part of said example.

2- 20pt swing, could be just that. A swing. In other words, it doesn't have to mean that an 85 OVR can be 65 OVR in one game. Maybe it means that that 85 OVR can go anywhere from 95 to 75 OVR. Or not lol. Just a thought.

3- Most important. This is IGN saying this. It may not be 100% accurate. It's not like they don't get things wrong all the time.

Not worth getting riled up about.

# 48 phillysouljah @ 06/02/11 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by roadman


	A 20 pt swing is a worse case scenario. It's a video game, time to relax a bit. You didn't answer my question. Let's say Vick throws 3 int's in the game. Doesn't that warrant some kind of down ward swing? Which Vick does Madden get? 1st half or second half?

Using '11 ratings as a benchmark...

If I were Danny Moore, I'd probably use the 91 Vick rating from '11 as Vick's median and put a 12 point range around that. So Vick would vary from 85 to 97... 97 would be like the Redskins game, 85 would be like the first Giants game or the ones where he only threw 1 TD, ran for a TD, and threw a pick. I'd say 250+ yards 1 pass TD, 1 rush TD, and a pick is an 85-ish performance.

So, at his best, Vick would be like between Peyton Manning and Drew Brees at their median. At his worst, Vick would be at Jay Cutler's or Matt Cassel's median.

That sounds about right to me. No more than a 6 point negative swing, assuming Vick's median rating will remain 91.

# 49 shnuskis @ 06/02/11 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by phillysouljah


	No, it's not subjective when you're talking MADDEN RATINGS! I keep reading a 20-point swing with Vick. Vick is what? A 91? I can't say he had any games where he was as bad as a 71. Can you?

20 pt swing is from the peak number to the low number. If he is a 91 for his base rating, that means a swing from 101 to 81. A base 91 dropping to 71 would have potentially 40 pt swings.

Was Vick as bad as 81 at times last year? Yes. 25 for 43 for 263 yds, 1td, 1int 58% passing vs. MIN.

# 50 phillysouljah @ 06/02/11 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shnuskis


	20 pt swing is from the peak number to the low number. If he is a 91 for his base rating, that means a swing from 101 to 81. A base 91 dropping to 71 would have potentially 40 pt swings. Was Vick as bad as 81 at times last year? Yes. 25 for 43 for 263 yds, 1td, 1int 58% passing vs. MIN.

That is reasonable and is just a little wider than what I suggested.

# 51 Phobia @ 06/02/11 06:52 PM

Why are you guys getting all heated over a issue NO ONE knows the inner workings of. Speculating about it over and over has no end, no bearing on the situation, and will end with someone getting upset or banned. Just chill and read about the info lol

# 52 Armor and Sword @ 06/02/11 06:54 PM

Madden is going to a new level of realism. I am really pumped for this.

The next step is roster lockers so fellow players can edit and create rosters and edit these traits to be as close to life as they can.

Could you imagine if they had the locker feature like NCAA so we can make custom and classic rosters as well as custom draft classes?

Either way Madden 12 is sounding and looking better by the day.

# 53 jackrubay @ 06/02/11 07:11 PM

It would be interesting to know if this function would also work in a way that would boost defensive players (if they have good leaders and good coaches) after the offense plays poorly. I think it would be a good element to reward picking teams with these type of leaders that you know can pick up the slack if the game gets on the line. Or visa-versa having a player like Manning or Brady get a slight boost if the defense starts to slip up.

# 54 RGiles36 @ 06/02/11 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Only1LT


	I actually wasn't taking a shot at Romo. That's just too easy lol. I was making light of how it is typical of a Cowboy fan to rush to bash Eli. Could have been an Eagle or Washington fan. Would have made the same comment and it would have worked just the same.

The article made fun of Eli -- I was just using their example lol

# 55 blklightning @ 06/02/11 08:04 PM

this sums it up perfectly:

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	If the team at Tiburon can pull this off, it will be something special.

goals are one thing; execution is another. and with tiburon's track record, i don't have much hope for this panning out. remember all the blogs detailing improvements to the game that never made it on the disc? yeah, it doesn't look good. but it sounds really sweet. as always, we'll see.

# 56 Outkizast @ 06/02/11 08:34 PM

"T.O. lacks concentration. If he isn't involved in the game, he might drop a crucial pass. You know this. So, as the coach, you need to call some short, high-percentage plays for T.O. to build his confidence and keep him focused. Because when he's focused, he might still come up big when you need him. Otherwise, he could erode the confidence of everyone around him."

This is what has me excited. In the past I would hit my top receiver early in the game and would "pretend" that getting him touches early would help his confidence and get my team going. Now it's actually going to have an effect on the game. Awesome.

# 57 roadman @ 06/02/11 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by blklightning


	this sums it up perfectly: goals are one thing; execution is another. and with tiburon's track record, i don't have much hope for this panning out. remember all the blogs detailing improvements to the game that never made it on the disc? yeah, it doesn't look good. but it sounds really sweet. as always, we'll see.

I wouldn't go out declaring it doesn't look good unless we try it. There are some things that worked as advertised as well, including run blocking last year.

I'll agree with your last two words, we'll see.

# 58 jmurphy31 @ 06/02/11 09:08 PM

On the menu screen I see an option for manual. Does this mean this year we will have an accurate in game manual that might explain what actually does what. (Exampl DE moves) besides this all this other info is great to hear.

# 59 ross_wittenmyer @ 06/02/11 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by shnuskis


	20 pt swing is from the peak number to the low number. If he is a 91 for his base rating, that means a swing from 101 to 81. A base 91 dropping to 71 would have potentially 40 pt swings. Was Vick as bad as 81 at times last year? Yes. 25 for 43 for 263 yds, 1td, 1int 58% passing vs. MIN.

If i recall correctly, one of the madden devs said the OVR wouldn't change or be re-calculated. I thought they said only individual ratings would change. I could be wrong though.

Edit: Yeah, forget what I said, almost every article refers to OVR changing. I could of swore that I read one that said it was individual ratings. Oh well.

# 60 mvb34 @ 06/02/11 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by phillysouljah


	You know, people keep saying this but I'm puzzled. Is this a reference to Atlanta Falcons-era Vick? Eagles Vick was remarkably consistent last year. Check the game logs. Even when there was a perception towards the back-end of the season that he had started to come back to earth, he was still remarkably good. I can't say he had a single bad game last year: 284 yards 2 TD vs. Detroit 291 yards 3 TD 1 rushing TD vs. Jacksonville 218 yards 1 TD 1 rushing TD plus 74 yards rushing vs. Indianapolis 333 yards 4 TD 2 rushing TD plus 80 yards rushing vs. Washington 258 yards 1 rushing TD vs. New York Giants 333 yards 2 TD 1 INT vs. Chicago 302 yards 2 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT vs. Houston 270 yards 2 TD 1 rushing TD 2 INT vs. Dallas 242 yards 3 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT plus 130 yards rushing vs. New York Giants 263 yards 1 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT vs. Minnesota 292 yards 1 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT vs. Green Bay in playoffs Did Vick even have a single bad game? No. He was good to stellar every time he took the field. What? 258 yards a rushing TD against the Giants was bad? That was his least productive day all last season! In Madden terms, Vick never dipped below, I'd say, an 85 all year.

What was his completion percentage in these game? I know in the Vikings game he should had atleast three more picks (The Vikings dropped) plus he a game changing fumble..

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