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FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

02:46 PM - January 24, 2011 by RaychelSnr

I recentely sat down for a talk with FBGRatings.com's Dan Berens to discuss his site's vision and what's going on over there today. The site is currently working on getting accurate ratings for every player using real hard data converted into the Madden ratings universe. Dan claims that when these numbers are plugged into the game, it plays much better and much closer to real life. Check out the interview below and also check out Dan's website to see what he's got going on!

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# 1001 DCEBB2001 @ 08/16/13 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ghettogeeksta


	How many people are on you team? Why don't yall just do one or two teams a day for like 2-3 months?

During the season, we update weekly. 25000 players with updated information every week. We do not have time to make rosters. We are not in the roster creation business.

# 1002 DCEBB2001 @ 08/16/13 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BEasy20


	DCEBB do you think that at any point in the future you may reach out to EA and see about joining forces to do rosters for not only madden but all games or has any dialogue between the two parties already happened?

I applied for a position with EA back in the summer of 2011. I had a phone interview with 6 of the devs, including Donny Moore. I told them what I could do for them with the data I have. They seemed interested. The interview was going well until Donny asked me if I was willing to compromise "correct" ratings at the behest of the upper management and marketing teams.

Needless to say my lack of employment by EA at this time tells you what my answer was.

# 1003 BEasy20 @ 08/16/13 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DCEBB2001


	I applied for a position with EA back in the summer of 2011. I had a phone interview with 6 of the devs, including Donny Moore. I told them what I could do for them with the data I have. They seemed interested. The interview was going well until Donny asked me if I was willing to compromise "correct" ratings at the behest of the upper management and marketing teams. Needless to say my lack of employment by EA at this time tells you what my answer was.

Sounds like they didn't want the ratings as low you have them. Isn't this a problem with their formula which makes it appear so low and not your ratings? Wouldn't changing their formula up a little make the overalls appear higher even though you input the same numbers?

If thats the case seems like they really don't want to put any effort into making the rosters accurate

# 1004 gr18 @ 08/16/13 10:24 PM

Just by using the eye test,I don't think Brady is a 99 overall and Rodgers a 98 with your individual attributes.I don't see where they end up that much higher than Peyton or Brees would comparatively.I'll input them when I get a chance.

# 1005 DCEBB2001 @ 08/16/13 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gr18


	Just by using the eye test,I don't think Brady is a 99 overall and Rodgers a 98 with your individual attributes.I don't see where they end up that much higher than Peyton or Brees would comparatively.I'll input them when I get a chance.

I addressed this a couple pages ago - the attributes do not match the OVRs yet because I am waiting to get the new calculations once the game drops.

# 1006 gr18 @ 08/16/13 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DCEBB2001


	I addressed this a couple pages ago - the attributes do not match the OVRs yet because I am waiting to get the new calculations once the game drops.

Thanks,your hard work is appreciated.

# 1007 azdawgpound @ 08/17/13 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SECElit3


	Fully intending on starting this roster when the game releases, for PS3

good luck with that since their not doing a roster u have to change all the stuff by hand your gonna have tons of hrs of work since every team takes between 2-3 hrs to rerate. also your overall ratings will be different then fbg's.

# 1008 vannwolfhawk @ 08/17/13 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by azdawgpound


	good luck with that since their not doing a roster u have to change all the stuff by hand your gonna have tons of hrs of work since every team takes between 2-3 hrs to rerate. also your overall ratings will be different then fbg's.

I did this 2 years ago! It took forever! Lol! But who cares about overalls? It's about players playing like themselves. Game played amazing with all the edits I can say!!!

# 1009 DCEBB2001 @ 08/17/13 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by azdawgpound


	also your overall ratings will be different then fbg's.

That's not true. The OVRs will match the attributes once the OVR calculations are cracked.

# 1010 DCEBB2001 @ 08/17/13 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SECElit3


	This is a excellent point DCEBB. I think last year, it took me about a month from start to finish. Thankfully, I did them towards the end of the season, when not a lot of updating was being done, so I was able to get them somewhat on point with the FBG Ratings site. This year I plan to start at the beginning of the season. If you are releasing an update every week, with updates to players already complete, I will never get the roster finished. It seems to me, it makes more sense to do a start and end season update. I guess what i am saying is... If we can't get them implemented into the game, what is the point of these?

We do not do roster production. Not enough time for it. We are dedicated to weekly updates during the season. I cannot change that fact. Our subscribers require more regular updates.

As I said earlier, I don't care what people do with them...the site is merely a reference for anyone to do as they wish so long as they give credit and do not profit from our efforts.

# 1011 KingV2k3 @ 08/18/13 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SECElit3


	Fully intending on starting this roster when the game releases, for PS3

This is the best news I've read on this site in years...

AWESOME...

Thank YOU!

# 1012 garret2 @ 08/26/13 09:13 PM

anyone have an idea of whether or not a roster share file will be compatible for both xbox 360 and xbox one? in other words, if we create a roster with fbgratings for 360, would it also be there for xbox one when it releases?

# 1013 MattFromTheWire @ 08/27/13 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DCEBB2001


	I addressed this a couple pages ago - the attributes do not match the OVRs yet because I am waiting to get the new calculations once the game drops.

Does everything matchup?

# 1014 garret2 @ 08/28/13 02:37 PM

DCEBB2001, i know that player's overall ratings drops if they are currently injured, was just wondering if their attribute ratings drop as well? was interested because some of us are attempting to edit the madden 25 rosters will FBGratings data and we want to make sure that all player ratings are on par as we input the data. thanks a million!

# 1015 Braveman84 @ 08/28/13 04:20 PM

Fully working the stats into madden right now for ps3 hope to have a few teams done this weekend so you can try it out.

# 1016 Braveman84 @ 08/28/13 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SECElit3


	So, I think I've seen like 5 guys on OS doing these rosters. Why are we not coordinating to lessen the workload on one person and getting these finished. 6 guys could have this done in no time.

Well I know I have only seen my self work on them for ps3 most of the other guys doing them are working on them for Xbox 360 and I know a few of the, are working together

# 1017 Braveman84 @ 08/28/13 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SECElit3


	Ok, Brave, I'll take a team tonight, tomorrow night, and two Saturday. Let's do this. Are you starting with the latest roster? We've got to hurry before the injuries start coming in.

I just started with the roster the game came with actually. I have added players in when needed. I have the pats and jets than I'm done with the AFC East. Now I have never worked on a roster together so not sure how to transfer or save the rosters together. I normally do them alone lol

# 1018 DCEBB2001 @ 08/28/13 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MattFromTheWire


	Does everything matchup?

No. I have to analyze and crack the OVR formulas. I will do this when I get some time during the season.

# 1019 DCEBB2001 @ 08/28/13 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by garret2


	DCEBB2001, i know that player's overall ratings drops if they are currently injured, was just wondering if their attribute ratings drop as well? was interested because some of us are attempting to edit the madden 25 rosters will FBGratings data and we want to make sure that all player ratings are on par as we input the data. thanks a million!

Do attributes affect the OVR rating? Yes, the attributes will also change when players are injured...unless you think that RGIII ran a 4.40 40 right after his surgery.

# 1020 servo75 @ 08/29/13 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SECElit3


	So, I think I've seen like 5 guys on OS doing these rosters. Why are we not coordinating to lessen the workload on one person and getting these finished. 6 guys could have this done in no time.

I did volunteer, as did some others, I figure one of them would coordinate. Still it's probably best not to have too many cooks in the kitchen - makes for better consistency - and better pie. Mmmmm, pie.

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