Madden NFL 11 News Post

FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

02:46 PM - January 24, 2011 by RaychelSnr

I recentely sat down for a talk with FBGRatings.com's Dan Berens to discuss his site's vision and what's going on over there today. The site is currently working on getting accurate ratings for every player using real hard data converted into the Madden ratings universe. Dan claims that when these numbers are plugged into the game, it plays much better and much closer to real life. Check out the interview below and also check out Dan's website to see what he's got going on!

Interview with Berens on the OS Radio Show on BlogTalkRadio

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# 981 DCEBB2001 @ 08/15/13 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ghettogeeksta


	Are they going to do a roster for Madden 25 and upload it to Roster Share?

No, FBG ratings is not going to do a roster. We do not make rosters.

# 982 azdawgpound @ 08/15/13 11:44 PM

haven't tried a game yet but I got half the offense done on browns im through the te's and so far the highest rated players are Brandon Weeden @ 69 and Brandon Jackson @ 69 also.

Trent Richardson comes in at a 65 overall.

I gotta feel sorry for anybody who wants try update a whole roster file with these ratings I've started on these at like 6:30 and its going on 8 here and im not even through whole offense yet and I still have 49 players to edit lol.

# 983 DCEBB2001 @ 08/16/13 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ghettogeeksta


	Ok, so are yall going to adjust ratings for all the players and upload them to Madden Share?

No. We do not do anything with rosters or roster production. All we do is rate players.

# 984 BradyBunch88 @ 08/16/13 07:19 AM

Ratings in Madden are pretty ridiculous. Donny Moore?!?!?! What a joke.

I actually think, if you get the ratings spot on then you play a completely different game. Almost all the well known plays are 80+ in Maddens system.

These guys, FBGRatings, actually sounds quite interesting.

It's just a shame they won't create their own roster updates. Looks like I'll be using somebody elses rosters. I'm deffo not using Donny Moore's though!

# 985 King Gro23 @ 08/16/13 03:06 PM

While playing Madden 12 & 13 at college extensively I did plug in the FBG ratings for madden 2012. I would work roughly 2-4 hours a day on the roster, I did ratings and some equipment changes and it took me 17 days to get through 23 teams. So yea it is a huge workload as one person but honestly with Madden Share set up it will be so easy just assign on person per team to do the proper edits. & Set up a time schedule and the rosters easily could be done in around 3-4 days.

Person "Bears" do edits -- Upload to share (Next team & person in schedule ) Download latest completed team version and add edits then upload.. ect

For M13 I only completed 19 teams but I will admit the gameplay is more wide open felt more like a battle. Positioning and realism seemed to be more key but only to an extent because madden didnt have a lot (or enough of) players recognizing their position and assignments on the field. I think Madden 25 brings a big upgrade as far as making the game better from the dline & oline enhancements across the board, players need to float around different assignments in zone and the WR/DB interaction we all know needs work.

IE 2.0 is what is needed to make the players physical edits stand out even more mix that with the new fatigue will nodoubtedly improve the effects of these edits.

I believe these are key to more balanced unpredicatable out comes within the game. We can only hope the ratings play a visible and controllable effect on the game the way the should. As for Browns QB's and the legacy our QB's should be in the 60's 50's & rare 70's because Browns have been historically bad with the QB position. Willing to bet 85% of the quarterbacks we've had since 99' never seen any regular season playing time again after falling out with the browns. Meaning (they are below avg dang near on a scale of NFL talent n players (50's-60 would represent well. )

# 986 King Gro23 @ 08/16/13 03:08 PM

I will definitely use the edits again for M25 im not sure If I am going to scoop both current gen and next gen or next gen only. This does open the CPU gameplay up a great deal

# 987 Ice_Cold345 @ 08/16/13 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by azdawgpound


	haven't tried a game yet but I got half the offense done on browns im through the te's and so far the highest rated players are Brandon Weeden @ 69 and Brandon Jackson @ 69 also. Trent Richardson comes in at a 65 overall. I gotta feel sorry for anybody who wants try update a whole roster file with these ratings I've started on these at like 6:30 and its going on 8 here and im not even through whole offense yet and I still have 49 players to edit lol.

Lol, I remade the Browns on PS3, and it takes a long time. Especially since no gameplay comes out of it for a while. You have to update the depth charts, so the right QB is starting and at other positions as well. It's quite the investment.

# 988 Blazelore @ 08/16/13 03:47 PM

I like your rating style. I have two questions. When will the updated ratings be ready for Madden 25 and by the data you have humor me and tell me what would you rate Barry Sanders.

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# 989 RajonRondo @ 08/16/13 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ghettogeeksta


	So it's up to us to edit the ratings in the game to what you have if we want? If you take all this time to come up with these ratings why not just edit the rosters and upload them to Madden Share?

this lol, makes no since to rate players and have a whole website about it. what do you expect us to do? copy them one by one? no thanks...

# 990 DCEBB2001 @ 08/16/13 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ghettogeeksta


	If you take all this time to come up with these ratings why not just edit the rosters and upload them to Madden Share?

You answered your own question here. It takes SO MUCH TIME just to rate 25,000 players, that we cannot create our own roster files.

# 991 DCEBB2001 @ 08/16/13 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BradyBunch88


	It's just a shame they won't create their own roster updates. Looks like I'll be using somebody elses rosters. I'm deffo not using Donny Moore's though!

I wouldn't call re-rating over 25,000 NFL players and free agents while not having the shear time to create a roster file "a shame".

If you only knew the level of work involved I think you would choose better words. I think that ignorance to the depth of this project is "a shame".

# 992 DCEBB2001 @ 08/16/13 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Blazelore


	I like your rating style. I have two questions. When will the updated ratings be ready for Madden 25 and by the data you have humor me and tell me what would you rate Barry Sanders. Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

Ratings are current as of the day listed at the bottom of each player's profile page. The only thing I am waiting on is M25 so I can get the OVR formulas for each position and tweak the attributes.

Barry Sanders now or Barry Sanders 1997? I don't have 1997 data, so I can't tell you what he was, but I'm sure it was pegging 90. It really depends on how he graded out as a blocker and receiver. Look at Adrian Peterson. He almost broke Dickerson's record and he is only an 81 or so. Why? Because to be a complete RB, you need to do more than just run the ball...you have to be able to block and catch...and DP doesn't block all that well according to the data. If he did, he would be pushing 95+ I'm sure.

Keep in mind that blocking is part of the OVR calculation for a RB...

# 993 DCEBB2001 @ 08/16/13 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RajonRondo


	this lol, makes no since to rate players and have a whole website about it. what do you expect us to do? copy them one by one? no thanks...

I don't expect anything. I do it because I love it. So long as nobody does anything without giving credit or tries to profit off of the site, they can do whatever they please.

# 994 packerboy71 @ 08/16/13 07:43 PM

I have one quick question how updated are these because if I have the time I'll attempt to copy them and put them on Madden Share.

# 995 DCEBB2001 @ 08/16/13 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by packerboy71


	I have one quick question how updated are these because if I have the time I'll attempt to copy them and put them on Madden Share.

Look on the date at the bottom of a player's profile page.

# 996 OriolesFanRD @ 08/16/13 07:45 PM

But...

The site has Marshal Yanda rated at a 71. Tom Brady a 99 and The Sheriff an 86. My level of confusion is extremely high here.

# 997 DCEBB2001 @ 08/16/13 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by OriolesFanRD


	But... The site has Marshal Yanda rated at a 71. Tom Brady a 99 and The Sheriff an 86. My level of confusion is extremely high here.

That's only because you are used to EA's ratings...everyone over 80. Read this thread and you will be less confused. Jumping into the conversation at the most recent moment would confuse anyone.

# 998 garret2 @ 08/16/13 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ghettogeeksta


	How many people are on you team? Why don't yall just do one or two teams a day for like 2-3 months?

he's answered this a bunch of times, but WE can do it in just a few days if enough people want to help out.

# 999 BEasy20 @ 08/16/13 09:43 PM

DCEBB do you think that at any point in the future you may reach out to EA and see about joining forces to do rosters for not only madden but all games or has any dialogue between the two parties already happened?

# 1000 King Gro23 @ 08/16/13 09:53 PM

Persoally I think the FBG ratings will benefit the next gen more than current gen if things like this :

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	All-new Player Sense unlocks the human element in Madden NFL. For the first time, players scan the field, anticipate situations before they happen, and maneuver with instincts and awareness. The ability to make up to 50x as many contextual calculations brings intelligent ballcarriers and defenders to life, as they sense obstacles and react on the fly. Ballcarriers leap over fallen players, blitzing linebackers slide past teammates on their way to the QB, and so much more, combining the physical aspects of football with the mental.

as well as

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	All New True Step player motion calculates every step, delivering unprecedented control. Players now have the ability to foot-plant, cut, and shift momentum in an authentic way unlocking the agility and explosiveness of the NFL athlete. IGNITE run-time physics calculate at twice the rate allowing for the most organic, user-driven outcomes in franchise history. Combined with the precision modifier’s vast combination of ballcarrier moves, Madden has never felt this good

live up to the claim

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