Seriously though to keep it all the way real. this stripped down demo is complete BS. How they hell can you release a demo where you can only play as one team... NO PLAYS... well we found a work around for that but come on 2k that is just plain old BS.
I didn't want to say it. But thank god someone else did. I thought 23 was joking in the first post. But then seeing it was true kind of turned me off. I could understand no plays and as well as other moved features. But not to be able to play with the othr team. A huge "WTF were they thinking". Oh well...
I'm probably not going to give the demo much time because of this.
Release points on jumpshots and fadeaways are back and feel good.
Game overall looks significantly improved visually. Player models look bigger yet not bulky. Paul Pierce's new model actually looks like him. Arena graphics look sharp and colors are more vibrant and true to life.
I LOVE the signature shots thusfar, specifically Paul Pierce. They nailed his shot variations. Having 3 sig shots was genius. Kobe's shots are also as good as it gets.
Momentum jumpers feel very good and add a freedom of movement.
Defense on the passing lanes is excellent. Even on this low level careless passes get tipped/picked
Overall defense feels good. Blocking is more contextual. Shots that should be blocked are blocked...I didn't get the sense of the animation determining the block or the ball going through the defenders hand.
Collisions are the best in the series. Collisions when handling the ball feel fair. You're not locked in to a 4 second animation that drags you along for the ride. Mid air collisions make a difference and feel legitimate... last year they were purely canned. This year they feel more organic, are far more frequent and happen contextually. This results in more physicality in the paint.
I have yet to experience a player stepping out of bounds when passing near the baseline. Players also instinctively step back behind the 3 point line on pass outs when close enough as opposed to taking long 2 pt'ers a step within 3pt range.
Dribbling feels very good. I have a lot to learn with this new system, but I was still able to pull off some impressive moves. It feels very responsive and more organic than its ever felt.
Its a demo, but even still the presentation was quite impressive. This game has a polish that 2K has lacked for years.
The arena sounds is one of my favorite improvements. The crowd is raucous. It finally sounds like you're at an NBA game. The organ music is fantastic.They captured the authentic Staples Center defense chants and other specific sounds including something similar to the chimes that play when you hit a three pointer. I think those are supposed to be the 'Westminster Chimes' but if it's fixable in the stadium sounds editor, I quit.
The computer AI even on pro level does some impressive stuff. I can see myself actually saving computer highlights this year. They attack holes in the defense and anticipate when on defense. I can't imagine how a higher level and sim will feel.
Manual post up is back and it feels good. You can post anywhere on the court by holding RT and LT simultaneously.
As far as cons, I can't think of any at this time except that 2K's demo's leave much to be desired. You can only be the Lakers and there is no playcalling or subs. If they at least even added a practice mode where you could shoot around and practice the new controls, that would add so much. I am thoroughly impressed and pleased otherwise.
EDIT: Another plus is that holding turbo with shot stick when driving to or under the basket does not automatically result in a dunk attempt. I've seen a good shot variety in the paint and when driving to the basket and the dunk/layup attempts thus far have seemed appropriate for the situation. Those overdone baby hooks of the past seem to be completely gone. I also noticed my player automatically attempting to avoid the shot blocker with his shot attempt when the lane is congested, as opposed to just trying to force it over or through him.
Seriously though to keep it all the way real. this stripped down demo is complete BS. How they hell can you release a demo where you can only play as one team... NO PLAYS... well we found a work around for that but come on 2k that is just plain old BS.
At least u keepin it a 100.. Which is y I now have 100% no faith in 2k11 online being anywhere decent.. Gonna b da same bs like 2k10 mayb even worse.. I have alot of great things to talk about the demo.. But like always these major things like not bein able to b connected to xbox live while playing the demo?? R u serious!! Can't use celtics or play another human being?? Come on 2k y'all lazy GTFO.. Ghost
this thread is great and i'd love to play the demo but idk man....i'm a dyed-in-the-wool laker ***** and it would just feel like selling my soul to play as them...demo or not.
to make a demo where you can only play as one team...one of the most hated teams in sports at that...it just seems dumb...smh...
i understand, but they're trying to tease people so they will want to buy the full game even more...its' just good business. as a game company, you don't want to give away too much in the demo. it's to be expected.
Thats still not an excuse in my opinion. Especially for a multipe player game. I play human 90% of the team. I'm already considering playing this once and being down. I didn't expect them to release a demo like Madden with a full 5 minutes a quarter game. But to only allow ONE TEAM to play that kind of stupid.
And i know Czar said it earlier but, every time you call a play, the ball handler picks up their dribble. I know it won't be an issue in the final build because i believe that this doesn't occur in Da Czar's videos, or am I just lying to myself?
this thread is great and i'd love to play the demo but idk man....i'm a dyed-in-the-wool laker ***** and it would just feel like selling my soul to play as them...demo or not.
to make a demo where you can only play as one team...one of the most hated teams in sports at that...it just seems dumb...smh...
Just wanted to confirm that dunks off of alley-oops are definitely in...
Just had a reverse dunk with Kobe off of Bynum's (yeah, tell me about it) lob on a fast break...
Also, if some are confused about the double team this year (as am i), you press LB/L1 to call double team, then icons will appear on players. The player you choose by pressing their icon will be the player that comes to help on defense. Now this is where i'm lost, what does the thing over the defenders head mean? With the x's and all that
Got a little video. highlights. lowlights. whatever you want to call them. cheesetastic whatever... just showing off some animations, deflections, blocks, and dunks
Within that video is a Kobe dunk. Here it is slowed down.. It looks so real slowed down.
Overall I'm really impressed. A true improvement over last years game.. Im still having trouble doing some standstill dribble moves. I guess we need a true hands on DRIBBLING CONTROL video. Behind the back seems so inconsistent
And i know Czar said it earlier but, every time you call a play, the ball handler picks up their dribble. I know it won't be an issue in the final build because i believe that this doesn't occur in Da Czar's videos, or am I just lying to myself?
No it won't happen in the final. when they stripped out that feature then the face buttons just function as they normally would So when you press b you fake pass or you press Y you do the sig gather etc etc etc.
Its just a function of them removing the playcalling the ball pickup is a byproduct of our work around.
Also, if some are confused about the double team this year (as am i), you press LB/L1 to call double team, then icons will appear on players. The player you choose by pressing their icon will be the player that comes to help on defense. Now this is where i'm lost, what does the thing over the defenders head mean? With the x's and all that
that shows you 1)A double team is incomming and 2) where the double is coming from.
I just saw a missed 'toilet bowl' shot unlike ever before in a videogame. Ball/rim physics have received an upgrade
OMG that Kobe Dunk Ruben was just nasty. I'm trying to refrain from downloading the demo, and waiting for the full retail, but I'm having some temptation.