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NBA 2K11: Ten Teams in Ten Days - Day 2: San Antonio Spurs (Da_Czar)

06:43 PM - September 9, 2010 by Steve_OS

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# 161 blingballa333 @ 09/10/10 03:26 AM

@Jano

I was talking about the first hookshot by Duncan. I was just a little hitchy. How the high the ball went off the backboard didn't help either. But, as we all know, that won't be happening in retail version

# 162 Da_Czar @ 09/10/10 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RayAllen20


	Czar....one question. In NBA 2K10, I never really felt the difference between elite defenders and bad ones. Gerald Wallace was just as easy to drive by as J.J. Redick it seemed. I played a 1 on 1 game with Shaq and CP3, and CP3 had a hard time getting by Shaq. Maybe it was just me but this was a big problem for me. In 2k11 do you notice elite defenders? With Artest on somebody like Durant do you see him not let him get open as often, and are defensive match-ups much more important this year? I see TP fly by Oden, but I want to make sure this would happen basically every time. BTW, great video and I am going to love having the CPU pick a play for me each time down the floor. How the Spurs utilize Parker, Ginobli, and Duncan was great to watch. Also, that was vintage McDyess with that baseline jumper, and penetration and kick outs seem way better. Can't wait for tomorrow's video and the demo. This game is beautiful.

Ray for me I need to get this game in the Czar cave to be absolutely certain. When you playing and capturing and thinking of all the questions the community might ask you everything isn't as apparent when you just playing for fun...

I can say from the captures and my time with the game it "appears" that is the case. Definitely in an off ball situation. you almost have to know where Kobe and artest and pippen are in those passing lanes. I haven't went up against them in a one on one setting often enough to be 100 % certain.

Having said that you saw what I did to sundiata... LOL and you saw what Bell did to me. So I would just like more hands on time with the game looking for that to be certain.

# 163 23 @ 09/10/10 04:05 AM

You still not sleep man?

# 164 Da_Czar @ 09/10/10 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RubenDouglas


	Thanks again! Court spacing is crazy. Players actually camp at the three point line and create SPACE. That's just great to see It just doesnt make sense the progress that I'm seeing. Just so much better. Contact animations in the paint look decent. Im sure sliders can get it to the level that I like (less and1s) What skill level was this on Czar? Are you finding the game easy at all with the new spacing? In the past it seemed like they didnt have a lot of the spacing because it was hard to program into the game.. ie how to tell a player to not completely guard someone else.

I am not finding the game easy at all. I am finding it simplified because its starting to do more real basketball plays. However those defensive rotations are doing a good job of mixing it up so you don't see the same look all the time. So the difficulty is in making the right read and then being smart with my double teams. If you have a bad matchup though the cpu will actually run plays at it not just run Iso's so in that regard it's tuff cause they find a pressure spot and keep going at it until you can stop it.

Again take that with salt because of the limited play time and capturing and all that but that was how I felt.

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Originally Posted by elprez98


	@Czar is the defensive playcalling the same as 2k10? Meaning if I wanted to change a defender or defensive method (DT in post, tight, loose, deny entry, etc.) for an opposing player, are the actions quickly chosen like the offensive plays?

With learning controls and everything else that is one of the things I didn't spend a log of time on was making those adjustment prez

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Originally Posted by elprez98


	Also for example on the 24 Weak that you ran, can you get the ball to Jefferson and reverse the ball back the opposite side of the court back to a posted Duncan without it being considered a broken play?

I didn't try I think it would but the cpu does a descent job in working with you so even if it breaks the play there is a chance you may be able to do that. I know their play development is now important to them so I would expect theme to continue to improve and refine the system.

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Originally Posted by Tha_Kid


	Almost as good as the videos was Czar's post (i think in the day 1 thread) where he said "it is still 2K." I saw a couple 2Kisms in the video that bring the game back down to earth, but that is a good thing. It's easy to get too hyped, especially in September.

THIS... thanks kid...

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Originally Posted by SpSoloSr


	Great work as usual Czar, I just had a quick question for you though (and I apologize if this has been addressed already). I particularly just stick to one squad with 2K in all the modes, but with all the different reads and sets, I'm really excited to give some other teams a go this year. With that in mind, and maybe for those who don't have a habit of running a set offense, how difficult of a learning curve are we looking at? It seems that you had a pretty firm grasp on not only the playing style, but also the reads and options off the sets. Would you expect some players being a little overwhelmed by it all?

Nines quote below really sums it up. The plays seem to be based on fundamental high efficiency hoops. So some people won't need much time at all. And although the plays come out of different sets there is similar action so I don't think even a new person to the game will have a long time to really be effective with the plays.

I mean Rob Jones himself said he never ran plays and now he does. Its a completely different experience which is what I tried to relate in the videos.

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Originally Posted by Nines


	I'm not Da Czar by any means, but I imagine that with practice and continuous play, reading the defense and knowing how to adjust your plays to react to what they are giving you will come naturally. Some will obviously pick it up quicker than others, but I feel with perseverance it shouldn't be too difficult.

Well Said Family !

# 165 domidomdomz @ 09/10/10 04:24 AM

Czar, while you're here let me ask a question I already poster in the OKC vid thread.

You said "Most teams have play systems", what do you basically mean by "play systems"?

and is it true that you are going to make it a 5 teams in 5 day series because of the early demo release? Please don't let it be but if it's what you really feel, I fully respect your decision.

# 166 HMcCoy @ 09/10/10 04:48 AM

Really digging the PnR defense.

# 167 KyotoCarl @ 09/10/10 04:50 AM

I'm getting really excited about running plays in My Player mode! Running plays in My Player mode wasn't alot of fun cause it just felt like you were running to one spot to another and then another.
This year, having the team run plays for My Player is gonna be alot of fun!

# 168 NDAlum @ 09/10/10 06:05 AM

Man I think Da_Czar's voice is kinda sexy myself

# 169 KyotoCarl @ 09/10/10 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Whoman


	I realize this will likely not be a thing you can test, but anyway : Can you change a cpu teams default plays ? And the bonus question : Can you do it during association mode ? No sense in the Suns running all sorts of pick and rolls 2 years into association with Nash retired, Dragic maybe signing elsewhere and a 70 rated rookie PG that�s score first running the show.

2K said that some players have specific plays for them so that if they switch teams the play for them goes with them to the new team.

# 170 bamalam @ 09/10/10 08:12 AM

nice video

# 171 Da_Czar @ 09/10/10 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by domidomdomz


	Czar, while you're here let me ask a question I already poster in the OKC vid thread. You said "Most teams have play systems", what do you basically mean by "play systems"? and is it true that you are going to make it a 5 teams in 5 day series because of the early demo release? Please don't let it be but if it's what you really feel, I fully respect your decision.

By Play systems I simply meant teams like the thunder get everyone involved in one or two MAIN sets. W regardless of where they go with the ball that thunder stack is a main staple. ( in real life of course teams run between 100-500 plus plays over the course of a season so they run more than what you see in this game) however in video game form it gives them a base to work out of.

Other teams in real life run a lot of plays out of a lot of sets... Like the hawks run some of the utah stuff some floppy so they don;t have a defined "system" that they play out of.

The triangle would be another case of defined set's. Again that is just my interpretation of what I was seeing from team to team.

It appears that they tried to concentrate on plays / sets that separates each team. In the NBA there are plenty of teams who run similar stuff its just not their staple plays. From that standpoint 2k clearly decided to focus this upgrade on what teams mainly do different.

As for the 10 teams I don't foresee much interest once guys actually have the demo In fact youtube should be flooded with video content once the demo drops so I just don't want to duplicate any effort. We'll see though.

Plus after 5 shows I think the point will be pretty much driven home..LOL each team plays different.

# 172 Da_Czar @ 09/10/10 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 23


	You still not sleep man?

I slept yesterday

# 173 domidomdomz @ 09/10/10 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Da_Czar


	By Play systems I simply meant teams like the thunder get everyone involved in one or two MAIN sets. W regardless of where they go with the ball that thunder stack is a main staple. ( in real life of course teams run between 100-500 plus plays over the course of a season so they run more than what you see in this game) however in video game form it gives them a base to work out of. Other teams in real life run a lot of plays out of a lot of sets... Like the hawks run some of the utah stuff some floppy so they don;t have a defined "system" that they play out of. The triangle would be another case of defined set's. Again that is just my interpretation of what I was seeing from team to team. It appears that they tried to concentrate on plays / sets that separates each team. In the NBA there are plenty of teams who run similar stuff its just not their staple plays. From that standpoint 2k clearly decided to focus this upgrade on what teams mainly do different. As for the 10 teams I don't foresee much interest once guys actually have the demo In fact youtube should be flooded with video content once the demo drops so I just don't want to duplicate any effort. We'll see though. Plus after 5 shows I think the point will be pretty much driven home..LOL each team plays different.

Thanks, man. "Play system" is pretty clear to me now.

As for the 10 team vids, I think no demo footage can compare to the clarity of presentation of play calling system of your videos. Heck, I even doubt if those demo footages which will surface show some plays (ok, maybe two or three) but your videos are truly invaluable. But still, it's still your call, fam.

If we would only have 5 team vids, that would be still golden to our eyes here in Sim Nation. More power to you, man.

# 174 onyx030 @ 09/10/10 08:36 AM

i'm just wondering:

the entire community is freaking out after those videos, as same as we all did after the DC and 2k10 videos last year. every1 said this will be GOAT etc. etc.

and what was it at the end ?
a half sim half arcade kind of mixed crap with lots of bugs, dunkfests, dozens of AND-1s and horrible AI.
just asking myself how ppl can already be so optimistic after last years disappointment. i wont belief a thing of 2Ks PR-Marketing until i've got the full game and it shows me some real AI and serious gameplay improvements while im playing.

just sayin ....

# 175 idrisguitar @ 09/10/10 08:38 AM

Have to agree, Czar vids are so many hundred miles ahead of ANY other gameplay vid that you worrying about duplicating should not even come into question.

its like saying the Coen brothers dont want to put out a film about gambling because a student from a junior college made something similar. (you are the coen bros in this example of course

)

# 176 TeeDogg @ 09/10/10 08:51 AM

The guy on the Mic in the theme song is Excelent. you dont hear that type of talent on the radio anymore. Mic skillz at its best

# 177 demencia_total @ 09/10/10 09:00 AM

Man, after all these years of being a basketball fan and playing video games, this is the first time that I truly feel its all coming together. As you get older, you start to appreciate the game differently and notice all the little nuances that are part of the NBA game instead of focusing on the flash and the highlight reels. I really appreciate what you are doing Czar, because this is what a lot of us truly care about: real bball.

In all the clamoring for headbands, socks, and flashy dunks, this stuff gets lost really easily. And I don't mean that as a slight, as I believe that the guys who keep hammering away for true visual authenticity have great points. But all that means doesn't hold as much ground if we aren't playing a game that truly reflects basketball for what it is. It was fun all those years playing videogames and having mindless fun, but I'm ready for something more "organic". And with these videos, I can finally see that they are on track. Might not be perfect in the end, but it looks damn good.

So what I'm really trying to say is: thanks brah, appreciate it.

# 178 Goffs @ 09/10/10 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by onyx030


	i'm just wondering: the entire community is freaking out after those videos, as same as we all did after the DC and 2k10 videos last year. every1 said this will be GOAT etc. etc. and what was it at the end ? a half sim half arcade kind of mixed crap with lots of bugs, dunkfests, dozens of AND-1s and horrible AI. just asking myself how ppl can already be so optimistic after last years disappointment. i wont belief a thing of 2Ks PR-Marketing until i've got the full game and it shows me some real AI and serious gameplay improvements while im playing. just sayin ....

easy...i have eyes and i use them

just sayin....

# 179 MVP23 @ 09/10/10 09:21 AM

Cant Wait!!!

# 180 onyx030 @ 09/10/10 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Goffs


	easy...i have eyes and i use them just sayin....

then read the beginning of my post again cuz you clearly ignored it.
every one had eyes a year back ago and was so stunned by the DC and 2k10 vids (including myself), and insights, and previews and so on .... and now tell me it lived up to the expectations and promises.

never mind - suit yourself

i hope it will be as good as presented, but i don't expect it.

btw i can make u also a vid of 2k10 showing u how great the defense is, just need 10h of footage and cut it to the few good things of the game :P

just to give u something to think about to "i have eyes" - u see what i choose to show you :>

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