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# 421 turftickler @ 08/27/10 09:03 PM
The only two major problems I saw in the gameplay last year were A.I. defense not doing it's job on defense, which led to me doing more work than I needed to do. And rebounding on both sides of the ball was horrible when I really needed it the most. Sometimes players would just stand around and watch the other team go after the ball.

This year, it looks like the defense and rebounding is better. As far as deciding on which game to get after the demo's drop, well, I have had NBA 2k11 paid for in full for a month at the least. NBA Elite 11 will only be just another demo to me, personally. I do like the direction EA has taken with it this year in the gameplay. Back on topic.

Even without all the Jordan stuff, I still love the 2k Basketball series. That's how I bounce.
 
# 422 BroMontana82 @ 08/27/10 09:06 PM
what i want to know is if they completely got rid of any lag while using the 2k cam this year. and is the FT hickup / lag gone too? i mean 100%.
 
# 423 Classic88 @ 08/28/10 04:12 PM
I dig it. Always love this time of year. Can't wait to see more gameplay videos
 
# 424 CavsTakeItAll @ 08/28/10 10:13 PM
unless your not like me youll notice the audio repeatedly
 
# 425 mwittman5 @ 08/29/10 06:12 PM
Im a nba live fan but after seeing the new elite videos compared to the 2k11 videos I might have to get 2k11. I'll play both demos and decide that way but right now im leaning towards 2K
 
# 426 statum71 @ 08/30/10 05:36 AM
Disapppointed to see the home crowd still not cheering when the visiting team is forced to call timeout. Same as last year.

Seems minor but it does take away from the audio environment of a real game.
 
# 427 RayDog253 @ 08/31/10 07:31 AM
Here's a cool break down of this video....

 
# 428 HealyMonster @ 08/31/10 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RayDog253
Here's a cool break down of this video....





this is sad. Some guy wasted all of that time analyzing a video of an old version of the game. Its not even retail.

Im actually shocked at the level of scrutiny this game gets. Im relatively new to nba 2k or basketball gaming in general but im still shocked by the level people go to to criticize this game. Its an odd little community here where they put everything under the microscope. Am i the only one that thinks this is crazy?
 
# 429 Eman5805 @ 08/31/10 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RiderGH
this is sad. Some guy wasted all of that time analyzing a video of an old version of the game. Its not even retail.

Im actually shocked at the level of scrutiny this game gets. Im relatively new to nba 2k or basketball gaming in general but im still shocked by the level people go to to criticize this game. Its an odd little community here where they put everything under the microscope. Am i the only one that thinks this is crazy?
Most likely you're one of the few. Especially in relation to that video. I mean the play where Pietris(I think) doubles down on Nene for no reason leaving Melo wide open, that's no small, over analyzing complaint. That's gamebreakingly bad D, old build considered.

Besides, I think a demanding, microscope hoarding fan community keeps the devs from getting complacent. I mean, it's all about true to life realism ain't it? If 2K was going for authenticity then they're going for authenticity and the fiends (my personal word for especially fanatic fans) will demand authenticity.

Besides, it ain't like the devs don't enable them. Fans complained about the Lebron headband thing from hell to high noon, and what happened? Is that headband logo exactly 3 inches to the left of where it should be anymore?
 
# 430 JVal3208 @ 08/31/10 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RiderGH
this is sad. Some guy wasted all of that time analyzing a video of an old version of the game. Its not even retail.
It was definitely a big waste of time.

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Originally Posted by Eman5805
Most likely you're one of the few. Especially in relation to that video. I mean the play where Pietris(I think) doubles down on Nene for no reason leaving Melo wide open, that's no small, over analyzing complaint. That's gamebreakingly bad D, old build considered.
It's a VIDEO GAME. Nothing is going to be perfect. It happened one time.
 
# 431 jeebs9 @ 08/31/10 02:49 PM
Could someone tell me where is the fake passes in this video?
 
# 432 spankdatazz22 @ 08/31/10 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Eman5805
Most likely you're one of the few. Especially in relation to that video. I mean the play where Pietris(I think) doubles down on Nene for no reason leaving Melo wide open, that's no small, over analyzing complaint. That's gamebreakingly bad D, old build considered.
While I tend to agree w/you, there needs to be balance. Too often the community comes off as expecting too much or being too demanding. Imo it's over the top to say the Pietris play is "gamebreakingly bad" - especially when only a small portion of video is being analyzed and within the same video there were more instances of defenders behaving as they should than when they weren't. On some level we shouldn't expect every play up and down the court to play out perfectly, just as they often don't in real life. To that end I think the developers have done a tremendous job with adding variability to the way the game looks like it plays.

But I also agree it seems like it's the community's attention to detail that will get them to make certain changes, such as the Lebron headband issue you cited. Imo there needs to be balance relative to the effort the developers are making. It's early, but imo 2K11 is looking like a game that should be considered for all-time greatest sports game status, given the level of detail and the overwhelming amount of content the game is offering. I think it's pretty remarkable the game is standing up to this level of scrutiny
 
# 433 jeebs9 @ 08/31/10 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by spankdatazz22
While I tend to agree w/you, there needs to be balance. Too often the community comes off as expecting too much or being too demanding. Imo it's over the top to say the Pietris play is "gamebreakingly bad" - especially when only a small portion of video is being analyzed and within the same video there were more instances of defenders behaving as they should than when they weren't. On some level we shouldn't expect every play up and down the court to play out perfectly, just as they often don't in real life. To that end I think the developers have done a tremendous job with adding variability to the way the game looks like it plays.

But I also agree it seems like it's the community's attention to detail that will get them to make certain changes, such as the Lebron headband issue you cited. Imo there needs to be balance relative to the effort the developers are making. It's early, but imo 2K11 is looking like a game that should be considered for all-time greatest sports game status, given the level of detail and the overwhelming amount of content the game is offering. I think it's pretty remarkable the game is standing up to this level of scrutiny
QFT!!!!

Man I couldn't say it any better. The best word in there is variability. You can't have the same situation play out the same way all the time. The game gets boring and has no surprise factor. Basketball in general doesn't work like that. In one situation they could be at least 5 out comes. Some people don't see that. Its one of the reason "the other game" failed in my opinion.
 
# 434 BezO @ 08/31/10 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RiderGH
Im actually shocked at the level of scrutiny this game gets. Im relatively new to nba 2k or basketball gaming in general but im still shocked by the level people go to to criticize this game. Its an odd little community here where they put everything under the microscope. Am i the only one that thinks this is crazy?
What esle should we be doing here? If we don't go into the details, every post would look like, "This game is great!" "This game sucks!" "The video looked good!" The video sucked!"

Though the development team has many of their own ideas, like Spank said, this is how they know what gamers want/expect.
 
# 435 Eman5805 @ 08/31/10 03:32 PM
Oi. I when I said gamebreakingly bad, I don't mean "I won't buy this now!" or "The game is ruined!" anything that serious. I was being quite literal. I meant THAT ONE BLOWN PLAY can break A game, as in if that happens on a final possession and I lose ONE game because of it, I'd say it's a game breaker, or at least level breaker if you want to in some perspective. But even so, that's infuriating and, to me, unacceptable. If I'm gonna lose, I want it to be because I screwed up, didn't play well enough. Not because I can't trust the AI to guard the other 4 players. (My Player experience is litered with games being lost because of my teammate PG not covering his man and covering mine in transition, even though I'm just in a slight trail position mind you, and leaving the friggin' PG wide open for a 3. I shouldn't have to sprint an extra foot in front of my cover just so the PG will cover his man.)

And Chris Smoove himself said that one laspe only happened once in the vid, so I doubt it's something we've got to worry about, but still, it's something I never want to see happen.

And another thing, "Nobody's perfect" is almost like a universal cop out, an overused excuse for failure. To me, succeeding long term in anything, is about never stopping progress just because you know that "nobody is perfect". I mean, you don't take that attitude to tests or building stuff do you? Flaws and mistakes do happen, granted, but when someone points them out going "nobodies perfect" is cheating yourself out of doing better, excelling. And it isn't like I'm talking about something like "The sidelines are too big! OMG!". It's like someone forgetting to make an office building with bathrooms.

Kind of a big deal, feel me?
 
# 436 HealyMonster @ 08/31/10 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BezO
What esle should we be doing here? If we don't go into the details, every post would look like, "This game is great!" "This game sucks!" "The video looked good!" The video sucked!"

Though the development team has many of their own ideas, like Spank said, this is how they know what gamers want/expect.
its not the details, its the sheer amount of "wtf, look at that headband, uggh, can we get new developers on this game already" "wtf, no knee brace, wow, this game is whack".

My post wasn't specifically commenting on any specific post, though, that video kind of brought me to the point of saying something. I mean we get a few gameplay clips from a german demo and another display and dudes are making videos and saying things like "this is bad defense, horrible defense" "its almost gamebreaking" as if they are an authority of gameplay design.

Look, I want the best out of every game as well, but there is nothing in NBA 2K that makes me feel like the developers are malingering. 2K10 was great, they appear to be at the top if not the best development team in sports gaming yet every clip that release people are going crazy as if they dont know what they are doing. I dont get it. I can understand people having issues with madden after years and years of below average gameplay,etc or even MLB 2k after years of mediocracy but this game is one of the best sports games I have ever played and it improves every year. This game isn't madden, ncaa, live, mlb 2k, or anything else. Its NBA 2K and its going to be a great game with or without a centered logo on Lebron James' headband.

It just seems to me that the nit-picking is taken to another level with NBA 2K. Its just my opinion but this is the last game that I feel needs to be nit picked. these devs have done a heck of a job with this series.
 
# 437 RayDog253 @ 09/02/10 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by RiderGH
this is sad. Some guy wasted all of that time analyzing a video of an old version of the game. Its not even retail.

Im actually shocked at the level of scrutiny this game gets. Im relatively new to nba 2k or basketball gaming in general but im still shocked by the level people go to to criticize this game. Its an odd little community here where they put everything under the microscope. Am i the only one that thinks this is crazy?
I don't see it that way but whatever....

If you go to his you tube channel you'll actually see that he is a 2k fan, all he plays is 2k and COD: MW2 .

If I thought it was just some fan boy hating on the game I wouldn't have posted it....
 
# 438 RubenDouglas @ 09/02/10 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by JVal3208
It was definitely a big waste of time.



It's a VIDEO GAME. Nothing is going to be perfect. It happened one time.
Past games have shown that its more than a one time mistake. 2k9 and 2k10 had some terrible cpu AI. The concern is real and valid imo
 
# 439 HotSauce2k3 @ 09/02/10 06:43 PM
Just had to come back in here and "overwrite" what I just saw in another game's video. Whew. I'm glad all we have to complain about in 2k11 is Deron Williams' face.
 
# 440 aloncho11 @ 09/03/10 01:28 PM
What about the latest large screenshots? Don't you think his face looks a little better?
 


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