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Madden NFL 11 "Swagger" Rating Explained (MyMaddenPad)

12:44 PM - June 29, 2010 by Steve_OS

MyMaddenPad has posted the details of what the "Swagger" rating is all about for Madden NFL 11.

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	"The "Old Spice Swagger" rating determines the likelihood of a player to celebrate on the way to the endzone, or after a touchdown. For example, a running back like Adrian Peterson (99 rating) has a greater tendency to celebrate than Frank Gore (50 rating)."

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# 61 bcruise @ 06/29/10 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by turfguy23


	Barry Sanders Swagger rating = 0 Old School.....not "Old Spice"

Deion Sanders' Swagger rating = **ERROR!! SYSTEM OVERLOAD**

# 62 maddenps2 @ 06/29/10 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ODogg


	This thread shows how EA can't win for losing with a lot of you. Yes this isn't all encompassing of personality of the players but it's a step in the right direction toward that goal. But for a lot of you it's just an excuse it seems to take EA behind the virtual woodshed once again. I think it's a great addition myself.

How do you know what EA's goal is? As of right now from what we know it's basically a generic celebration/show-boating rating sponsored by old spice. If I'm wrong, I'd like to see some examples of the different celebrations/mannerisms unique to players. Favre has alot of swagger, but what will it add when we see him highstepping towards the endzone.

# 63 bxgoods @ 06/29/10 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Above Awesome


	How do they rate the players that normally don't make many plays? How will they rate the 2nd stringers? Little known players? How can they tell how much swagger an offensive lineman has? How much swagger a punter or kicker has? Are they going to give second stringers an arbitrary number for their swagger rating? I don't get it. Agreed. Gore did some.... provocative celebrations towards the end of the season. (Lions?)

It seems the swagger ratings only come with TD's, so it wouldn't effect Olineman or Punters because they don't score much.

# 64 ODogg @ 06/29/10 06:29 PM

I don't know, just as none of you know that they are just adding this for some commercial moola. My point is that I'm applauding what appears to be an attempt to go to the next level in games which is player personality. That's something we've all wanted for years.

# 65 bxgoods @ 06/29/10 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by maddenps2


	How do you know what EA's goal is? As of right now from what we know it's basically a generic celebration/show-boating rating sponsored by old spice. If I'm wrong, I'd like to see some examples of the different celebrations/mannerisms unique to players. Favre has alot of swagger, but what will it add when we see him highstepping towards the endzone.

For Qb's , I guess it'll only matter when they throw TD passes or long bombs. They'll pose or do a gesture more. And Favre is always jumping up and down after every big play he makes.

# 66 da ThRONe @ 06/29/10 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ODogg


	I don't know, just as none of you know that they are just adding this for some commercial moola. My point is that I'm applauding what appears to be an attempt to go to the next level in games which is player personality. That's something we've all wanted for years.

Agreed and if they pick up a check along the way win-win for everybody.

# 67 roadman @ 06/29/10 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by maddenps2


	How do you know what EA's goal is? As of right now from what we know it's basically a generic celebration/show-boating rating sponsored by old spice. If I'm wrong, I'd like to see some examples of the different celebrations/mannerisms unique to players. Favre has alot of swagger, but what will it add when we see him highstepping towards the endzone.

I agree. I almost forgot about last year's Everything You See on Sunday.

Don't you feel that is part of their goal?

Huh, how about Favre the schoolboy after a TD pass, or having someone climb his back?

# 68 maddenps2 @ 06/29/10 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ODogg


	I don't know, just as none of you know that they are just adding this for some commercial moola. My point is that I'm applauding what appears to be an attempt to go to the next level in games which is player personality. That's something we've all wanted for years.

I'd much rather see EA use their time and resources to implement running/passing styles than a swagger/showboating rating. Swagger would be near the bottom of my priorities in order to individualize a players playing style/personality, but I'm not EA.
Again, i think EA is catering to the casual gamer who would appreciate and notice swagger/showboating much faster than they would a Quarterbacks drop-back/release and/or a running-backs running style/stance.

# 69 MrNFL_FanIQ @ 06/29/10 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ODogg


	I don't know, just as none of you know that they are just adding this for some commercial moola. My point is that I'm applauding what appears to be an attempt to go to the next level in games which is player personality. That's something we've all wanted for years.

I think a personality type thing would be better suited being how each player had personality in NFL Head Coach. This had a big effect on contract negotiations and the like. While I could be wrong, I highly doubt swagger will do anything other than be for celebrations.

And like I said on the poll thread, I feel there are many far more important issues that the resources spent on the swagger rating should've been spent on.

# 70 PGaither84 @ 06/29/10 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Meast21Forever


	I agree it's a vague characteristic and that it's a dumb feature, but having leadership, consistency and aggressiveness would be pretty difficult as well. How would EA go about rating players' aggressiveness? If you're not aggressive in this game, you're not in the game at all. Leadership? I don't know. Ok. Peyton has 99. Most QB's are 80-90. Other than the occasional stand out guy (Like Mawae or London Fletcher), anyone that isn't a team captain would be difficult to judge. That's getting to specific for me. No need for those ratings IMO.

Seeing how antoher game 6 years ago already had these ratings and did a good job with them, it wouldn't be that difficult. People are always going to disagree with ratigns. Players who are unknown, are goign to be UNKNOWN. Alex Smith was an 86OVR QB in Madden 07 in his second season while Frank Gore was only an 80. Tony Romo isn't a great QB, but he is good. In Madden 07 he is like a 77OVR or less in '07 as the backup to Drew Bledso and doesn't have much of a chance of starting for Dallas in that game seeign how he was already like a 3 year pro or something.

You won't get active players 100% correct, and that's why it is nice to be able to edit palyers before starting a franchise. What is really nice is how Hand Crafted rookies would be made. Josh Looman can make up who are great leaders and what not. A player like Teddy Bruschi could be a prime example of a career 88OVR player with like 95+ leadership, consistency, etc. These are supposed to be the intangibles that shouldn't go for or against an OVR rating.

Off topic Manning talk:

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# 71 ODogg @ 06/29/10 06:44 PM

Like dreadlocks for NCAA :P

# 72 PGaither84 @ 06/29/10 06:50 PM

I honestly don't know anything about this one way or antoher so this is why I am asking:

We had signature QB styles adn kicking styles added to Madden 10. Will they still be in the game? Will we get signature running styles this year?

I am also asking because someone kind of brought this up in another post here.

# 73 jeremym480 @ 06/29/10 06:59 PM

^^ It appears that QB Signature Throwing styles are still in. Favre's throwing motion is spot on, IMO. http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ght=viking%27s

There's also some Cowboy's video's floating around here and Romo's motion looks good, as well.

# 74 MrNFL_FanIQ @ 06/29/10 07:01 PM

Also, I will add, I wonder how much they'll promote this rating? I would hope it would just be a small little quirk, but I honestly wouldn't be surprise of this somehow makes the back of the box.

# 75 bcruise @ 06/29/10 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MrNFL_FanIQ


	Also, I will add, I wonder how much they'll promote this rating? I would hope it would just be a small little quirk, but I honestly wouldn't be surprise of this somehow makes the back of the box.

I'd imagine it'll get plenty of play on the highlight shows as well - I.E. Sportscenter anchors commenting on a real-life player's "swagger" rating as he dances into the endzone. Genius idea by the marketing team, really.

# 76 bears5122 @ 06/29/10 07:23 PM

So it doesn't really impact gameplay, just presentation. I guess that's fine although there are probably a million other ratings and features I'd look for before this was put in.

# 77 kd25 @ 06/29/10 07:35 PM

does Peterson really have a swag rating of 99? I've never seen the dude celebrate a TD lol

# 78 jeremym480 @ 06/29/10 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Joeyland


	More stupid, meaningless ratings to take your mind off the lack of development here.

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Originally Posted by stux


	What a joke. The funny part is that EA doesn't know the joke is on them. They are becoming a joke with gimmicks like this.

Maybe to you guys but, there's plenty of us who have been asking for something like this for years. Even if players don't have there own individual celebrations this is still definitely a step in the right direction.

# 79 av7 @ 06/29/10 09:14 PM

For anyone that has missed it, I suggest you read the sticky http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ow-effect.html

# 80 pittsburgher86 @ 06/29/10 09:16 PM

Old Spice Swagger... anything to make money. Either way its funny. I just hope that the "swag" won't cost my players touchdowns if they are showboating to the endzone...

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