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NCAA Football 11 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

05:52 AM - June 14, 2010 by PVarck31

The NCAA Football 11 demo is available now. Please post your impressions here.

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# 1481 IGGYBOY34 @ 06/18/10 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SECElite3


	I understand what is being said here but it has already been said the latest build of the game is far better than the demo. This came from a reputable source who has actually played the latest build. I fail to understand why someone would right such an elaborate post based on the experience he or she had while playing a demo. Why post this now? Quite frankly, until the game is released no one is going to pay much attention to this.

Bro, I would love to agree with you on this. However, I recently went back to my NCAA 10 demo and it plays almost exactly the same as the actual NCAA 10 game does.

# 1482 Playmakers @ 06/18/10 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rhombic21


	First, sliders won't fix this. This has to do with AI, with players knowing how to cover and where to cover, not with something like player speed or jumping ability or knockdown/INT ability, which can be manipulated with sliders. http://www.filefront.com/thankyou.ph...6907f992a8a0f3 Game was played on Heisman.

Wouldn't that be a player awareness factor also rhombic?

You said the AI doesn't know how to cover and where to cover but what if you you had 4 DB's and 3 LB's with all 90+ awareness in Zone Coverage and Play Recognition you know those ratings in the game that no one seems to ever look at because they don't even know they are there.....do you think they would react smarter with those types of ratings

Is that something you've tested to find out for yourself rhombic?

I think you should waite for the final product before making this conclusion everything will be broken.......

Every year i see lots of guy's saying something is broken and every year i seem to edit something in the game on my own and it gets much better on the field.......now i'm not asking you guys to waiste your time editing stuff in NCAA football

But i find it kinda amusing that guys in Backbreaker's can edit the entire game

Guys in MLB The Show or MLB 2K10 will edit the game some of them the entire game

But the damn NCAA Football crowd act like those things aren't possible or they are too LAZY to do it......

If i had the patient to edit the default teams there's no doubt in my mind some of the issues you guys complain about would be cut in half.....

Maybe you guys should get some kind of 3 or 4 man editing crew like the guys in those other sports games have done and fix some of the issues on the field by editing the game play on your own.

There are quite a few guys here at OS themselves that can vouch for me because they've used EA's rosters and they've used my rosters in NCAA football and the issues are cut in half every year. IT doesn't make the game play perfect but it does make it better overall...

Now the problems should be fixed by EA.....but if think they will edit the game like I have done the past 3 years or the guys who work as a community in Backbreaker or MLB The Show then your going to be waiting a long time. By the tie game is released they'll be working on NCAA 2012

So you can either complain about some these issues all year or you can roll up your damn sleeves and get under the hood of the game YOURSELF!

# 1483 clivo1050 @ 06/18/10 03:33 PM

I'm having trouble seeing most of the problems reported on here. This game is by far the best football game EA has made on this generation of consoles.

The passing game is much improved. You can actually put touch on the ball this year. Meaning, you can lob the ball and place it in certain areas of the field with much more precision. You can even lob the ball up to a tall receiver and they will try to out-jump the CB to catch it. The best passing has been since last gen.

Locomotion makes everything much smoother. Even old animations look better. They added several new in-stride catching animations which were sorely needed.

Sideline awareness seems solid and i've seen a wide variety of animations.

I have actually seen some consecutive hit tackles. They're not perfect and they don't happen as often as i'd like, but they're there.

However, this is still the same engine they've been using for the last five years. It has many of the same quirks and odd things that happen at times. I find it to play a very enjoyable game of football. I just hope the defense is tightened up in the retail version.

# 1484 bh446066 @ 06/18/10 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Playmakers


	Wouldn't that be a player awareness factor also rhombic? You said the AI doesn't know how to cover and where to cover but what if you you had 4 DB's and 3 LB's with all 90+ awareness in Zone Coverage and Play Recognition you know those ratings in the game that no one seems to ever look at because they don't even know they are there.....do you think they would react smarter with those types of ratings Is that something you've tested to find out for yourself rhombic? I think you should waite for the final product before making this conclusion everything will be broken....... Every year i see lots of guy's saying something is broken and every year i seem to edit something in the game on my own and it gets much better on the field.......now i'm not asking you guys to waiste your time editing stuff in NCAA football But i find it kinda amusing that guys in Backbreaker's can edit the entire game Guys in MLB The Show or MLB 2K10 will edit the game some of them the entire game But the damn NCAA Football crowd act like those things aren't possible or they are too LAZY to do it...... If i had the patient to edit the default teams there's no doubt in my mind some of the issues you guys complain about would be cut in half..... Maybe you guys should get some kind of 3 or 4 man editing crew like the guys in those other sports games have done and fix some of the issues on the field by editing the game play on your own. There are quite a few guys here at OS themselves that can vouch for me because they've used EA's rosters and they've used my rosters in NCAA football and the issues are cut in half every year. IT doesn't make the game play perfect but it does make it better overall... Now the problems should be fixed by EA.....but if think they will edit the game like I have done the past 3 years or the guys who work as a community in Backbreaker or MLB The Show then your going to be waiting a long time. By the tie game is released they'll be working on NCAA 2012 So you can either complain about some these issues all year or you can roll up your damn sleeves and get under the hood of the game YOURSELF!

You're making the most sense on this forum, and I, like you, have done global roster edits and through trial and error with difficulty levels/sliders, always gotten myself to a point where my game was playing at an optimum level for my style. It does take some work, but they can't release a game that plays perfectly into everyone's play style. The customization makes it great.

# 1485 CYST2000 @ 06/18/10 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jared52


	Have you not seen there will be game speed options in the game? I love the tempo, if you don't you can slow it down more.

Yeah, but if the game was built off the default speed setting, and that speed setting is what I am playing on the demo, then decreasing the speed will only open up the poor A.I.. I have already got rid of the demo because of cpu threw me int's left and right, and this was on All-American and Heisman difficulties'. If you slow it down, than the computer will instantly be throwing more knuckle balls and it won't be pretty. I just don't think that this engine will ever play a decent bit of ball, and I hope they can fix some of these problems before launch. I won't buy this, but for those who will, I hope you get a lot of enjoyment out of the game. It's just not for me, not this year.

# 1486 jared52 @ 06/18/10 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CYST2000


	Yeah, but if the game was built off the default speed setting, and that speed setting is what I am playing on the demo, then decreasing the speed will only open up the poor A.I.. I have already got rid of the demo because of cpu threw me int's left and right, and this was on All-American and Heisman difficulties'. If you slow it down, than the computer will instantly be throwing more knuckle balls and it won't be pretty. I just don't think that this engine will ever play a decent bit of ball, and I hope they can fix some of these problems before launch. I won't buy this, but for those who will, I hope you get a lot of enjoyment out of the game. It's just not for me, not this year.

Thanks. I plan to get a lot of fun out of the video game simulation of football since I don't know 21 other people who want to strap on the pads and go at it on a real field.

# 1487 Skyboxer @ 06/18/10 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CYST2000


	Yeah, but if the game was built off the default speed setting, and that speed setting is what I am playing on the demo, then decreasing the speed will only open up the poor A.I.. I have already got rid of the demo because of cpu threw me int's left and right, and this was on All-American and Heisman difficulties'. If you slow it down, than the computer will instantly be throwing more knuckle balls and it won't be pretty. I just don't think that this engine will ever play a decent bit of ball, and I hope they can fix some of these problems before launch. I won't buy this, but for those who will, I hope you get a lot of enjoyment out of the game. It's just not for me, not this year.

The lengths some of you go to whine about a video game......ESPECIALLY one you claim you're not even buying!...

Madden had different speed settings and you can adjust for each....

Oh and I will get enjoyment out of this VIDEO GAME....

# 1488 CYST2000 @ 06/18/10 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Playmakers


	Wouldn't that be a player awareness factor also rhombic? You said the AI doesn't know how to cover and where to cover but what if you you had 4 DB's and 3 LB's with all 90+ awareness in Zone Coverage and Play Recognition you know those ratings in the game that no one seems to ever look at because they don't even know they are there.....do you think they would react smarter with those types of ratings Is that something you've tested to find out for yourself rhombic? I think you should waite for the final product before making this conclusion everything will be broken....... Every year i see lots of guy's saying something is broken and every year i seem to edit something in the game on my own and it gets much better on the field.......now i'm not asking you guys to waiste your time editing stuff in NCAA football But i find it kinda amusing that guys in Backbreaker's can edit the entire game Guys in MLB The Show or MLB 2K10 will edit the game some of them the entire game But the damn NCAA Football crowd act like those things aren't possible or they are too LAZY to do it...... If i had the patient to edit the default teams there's no doubt in my mind some of the issues you guys complain about would be cut in half..... Maybe you guys should get some kind of 3 or 4 man editing crew like the guys in those other sports games have done and fix some of the issues on the field by editing the game play on your own. There are quite a few guys here at OS themselves that can vouch for me because they've used EA's rosters and they've used my rosters in NCAA football and the issues are cut in half every year. IT doesn't make the game play perfect but it does make it better overall... Now the problems should be fixed by EA.....but if think they will edit the game like I have done the past 3 years or the guys who work as a community in Backbreaker or MLB The Show then your going to be waiting a long time. By the tie game is released they'll be working on NCAA 2012 So you can either complain about some these issues all year or you can roll up your damn sleeves and get under the hood of the game YOURSELF!

No offense, but not every game can be fixed by the player. I for one tried last year to fix the Madden rushing yards problem from the last patch for the game. I took all the running backs AWR down a ton, and for the first season it worked, but it soon skyrocketed after that. As for the A.I. in EA's football games, it is all connected to the engine. I can increase the A.I. of the QB's AWR, but for some reason they still throw really dumb passes. And the A.I. running game (in this generation of games) has been poor to say the least. You know why, because they can't alter the A.I. that much. It is to embedded into the main engine of the game. Thats why QB's throw the same INT's from the same situations. Cpu running backs run without any real sense of trying to get to the first down marker i.e. no real use of the right joystick, and no use of the speed button, which is why they got rid of the speed boost. because the A.I. was stuck on the fact that if you use the speed button the D will go into turbo mode, so it was always easy to get the RB on just about every play the CPU runs. Some things are just unfixable, and some things are just getting old.

# 1489 Playmakers @ 06/18/10 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CYST2000


	No offense, but not every game can be fixed by the player. I for one tried last year to fix the Madden rushing yards problem from the last patch for the game. I took all the running backs AWR down a ton, and for the first season it worked, but it soon skyrocketed after that. As for the A.I. in EA's football games, it is all connected to the engine. I can increase the A.I. of the QB's AWR, but for some reason they still throw really dumb passes. And the A.I. running game (in this generation of games) has been poor to say the least. You know why, because they can't alter the A.I. that much. It is to embedded into the main engine of the game. Thats why QB's throw the same INT's from the same situations. Cpu running backs run without any real sense of trying to get to the first down marker i.e. no real use of the right joystick, and no use of the speed button, which is why they got rid of the speed boost. because the A.I. was stuck on the fact that if you use the speed button the D will go into turbo mode, so it was always easy to get the RB on just about every play the CPU runs. Some things are just unfixable, and some things are just getting old.

With all do respect man

Did you lower the catch ratings of the defenders accross the boards?

Did you boost up the RB's Ball carrier vision ratings along with Awareness?

Did you boost up the Run Block Footwork of the OL and their awareness?

I highly doubt more than 5 people on these entire boards have tweaked the ratings in NCAA the past 2-3 years to the extent I have in order to see that type of game play. I highly doubt some of the guys complaining even know you could alter ratings to effect certain parts of the game....they assume it is what it is and there are no other alternatives

In fact most people didn't even know that in NCAA 09 the bad pursuit problem could have been solved simply by increasing the pursuit ratings of the defenders accross the boards....they though it was a coding error but in reality it was more about defenders having poor pursuit ratings in the game.

Download my roster file if you guys don't believe the QB play or RB play can get can get better in NCAA Football simply by editing the game yourself.....

Sliders + Player Edits can create a much better game but you'll never know because some of you waiste time complaining instead of trying it for yourself......you accept the flawed rosters by EA and assume nothing can make it better

I personally think the NCAA Football community out of all the sports forums on these boards put in the less time tweaking the game to fix issues....They would would rather complain about a players 40 time or a guy not wearing the correct socks then they would editing the game

Guys put in names and numbers every year for the rosters with slight edits to ratings but none of them really tweak the game play.....

Go over to the Backbreaker Forums and watch how those guys are putting in work on that football game. I don't go over there and tell those guys teh edits they are doing don't work because I haven't tried it for myself.

Go over to the NHL Forums or NBA 2K10 Forums and watch those guys put in work....they don't fix all the problems but they damn sure fix some of them simply by doing roster files

# 1490 CYST2000 @ 06/18/10 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyboxer


	The lengths some of you go to whine about a video game......ESPECIALLY one you claim you're not even buying!... Madden had different speed settings and you can adjust for each.... Oh and I will get enjoyment out of this VIDEO GAME....

You know what, I was going to buy this game, yeah I had it paid in full all ready to pick up when it came out, but after playing the demo I realized that this is 2010 all over again. Dumb A.I. and poor animations. I don't slam you for your opinions, or do I call you a whiner. I'm not going to be one of those people that plays the same broken game year in and year out, and tell others how great it is, and then call people who disagree with me that they are whiners. If the game was truly great and the only thing we had to pay for every year was the new game with updated rosters and new animations, then I would be fine with it, but instead we get the same broken game only with upgraded presentation. I truly hope you enjoy the game, I wasn't being a a**h***, thats not how I work, but if you can't accept my sincerity than shame on you.

# 1491 CYST2000 @ 06/18/10 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Playmakers


	With all do respect man did you lower the catch ratings of the defenders across the boards? Did you boost up the RB's Ball carrier vision ratings along with Awareness? Did you boost up the Run Block Footwork of the OL and their awareness? I highly doubt more than 5 people on these entire boards have tweaked the ratings in NCAA th epast 2-3 years to the extent I have in order to see that type of game play. In fact most people didn't even know that in NCAA 09 the bad pursuit problem could have been solved simply by increasing the pursuit ratings of the defenders accross the boards....they though it was a coding error but in reality it was more about defenders having poor pursuit ratings in the game. Download my roster file if you guys don't believe the QB play or RB play can get can get better in NCAA Football simply by editing the game yourself..... Sliders + Player Edits can create a much better game but you've never done them how would you know?

Yes to all, but I had to decrease the AWR sooooo much more, because it was he main issue of the RB getting to much yardage per play. All stats increased to their fullest by year two, and was not that effective in eliminating the problem. And when did we start spending so much money, only to have to fix all of these problems of the final product? I have always tweaked my sports games. I don't need any help with that, but you are talking about changing the entire game. I think you should work for EA, if thats your passion.

# 1492 Playmakers @ 06/18/10 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CYST2000


	Yes to all, but I had to decrease the AWR sooooo much more, because it was he main issue of the RB getting to much yardage per play. All stats increased to their fullest by year two, and was not that effective in eliminating the problem. And when did we start spending so much money, only to have to fix all of these problems of the final product? I have always tweaked my sports games. I don't need any help with that, but you are talking about changing the entire game. I think you should work for EA, if thats your passion.

Again we are talking about NCAA Football not Madden

I asked you if you've made those changes to NCAA Football because this game and Madden aren't the same game in case you haven't noticed.

If you didn't do those things in NCAA Football how would you know if they work or not?

And your right it's not our job to fix issues in these games....but guess what why is the Backbreaker Community working hard to fix that game on the field?

Do any of them work for that company....I highly doubt it but guess what they are still editing the game.

I'm telling you guys in advance how to make the game better because it's what i've done the past 3 years with great results. If you don't care to make it better then hey that's on you....but don't tell me it doesn't work if you haven't put in the work or time.

And by the way RB YPC in Madden are tied more into Ball Carrier Vision Ratings....If you spent all that time reducing the awareness rating without touching Ball carrier Vision then your only doing half the job required to solve your problem

# 1493 JayBee74 @ 06/18/10 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CYST2000


	You know what, I was going to buy this game, yeah I had it paid in full all ready to pick up when it came out, but after playing the demo I realized that this is 2010 all over again. Dumb A.I. and poor animations. I don't slam you for your opinions, or do I call you a whiner. I'm not going to be one of those people that plays the same broken game year in and year out, and tell others how great it is, and then call people who disagree with me that they are whiners. If the game was truly great and the only thing we had to pay for every year was the new game with updated rosters and new animations, then I would be fine with it, but instead we get the same broken game only with upgraded presentation. I truly hope you enjoy the game, I wasn't being a ah*, thats not how I work, but if you can't accept my sincerity than shame on you.

Your comments are obviously sincere.

I'm not an "under the hood" type of guy, but I've played with sliders created by OS guys, and the game play continues to be unsatisfying. You either like this type of game or not, but I checked it out because of the "locomotion thing". No real innovation here, but I'm sure a lot of people on this board are quite satisfied with the status quo. To each his own.

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Originally Posted by Playmakers


	And your right it's not our job to fix issues in these games....but guess what why is the Backbreaker Community working hard to fix that game on the field?

We're (the BC community) really asking for patches more than anything. Sliders aren't available, so are hands are a little tied.

# 1494 Playmakers @ 06/18/10 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JayBee74


	Your comments are obviously sincere. I'm not an "under the hood" type of guy, but I've played with sliders created by OS guys, and the game play continues to be unsatisfying. You either like this type of game or not, but I checked it out because of the "locomotion thing". No real innovation here, but I'm sure a lot of people on this board are quite satisfied with the status quo. To each his own. We're (the BC community) really asking for patches more than anything. Sliders aren't available, so are hands are a little tied.

Come on Jaybee your a quality poster

But even if that game had sliders i find it hard to believe you guys wouldn't still mess with the player ratings to fix gameplay......

One of the things i used to hate about NBA 2K fans was that they would act like only NBA Live needed ratings adjusted to fix game play issues

Yet after 1-2 months you'd always see roster files for NBA 2K with guys tweaking the game beyond sliders...

I don't care what anyone say's whether it's APF, Backbreaker, NFL 2K5 or Madden the game play is going to be flawed in some ways. Everyone of those games requires some kind of extra editing to the players in order to make it play better on the field.

But it seems like the NCAA community seems to overeact much more and blow things out of proportion.

# 1495 Skyboxer @ 06/18/10 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CYST2000


	Yeah, but if the game was built off the default speed setting, and that speed setting is what I am playing on the demo, then decreasing the speed will only open up the poor A.I.. I have already got rid of the demo because of cpu threw me int's left and right, and this was on All-American and Heisman difficulties'. If you slow it down, than the computer will instantly be throwing more knuckle balls and it won't be pretty. I just don't think that this engine will ever play a decent bit of ball, and I hope they can fix some of these problems before launch. I won't buy this, but for those who will, I hope you get a lot of enjoyment out of the game. It's just not for me, not this year.

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Originally Posted by CYST2000


	You know what, I was going to buy this game, yeah I had it paid in full all ready to pick up when it came out, but after playing the demo I realized that this is 2010 all over again. Dumb A.I. and poor animations. I don't slam you for your opinions, or do I call you a whiner. I'm not going to be one of those people that plays the same broken game year in and year out, and tell others how great it is, and then call people who disagree with me that they are whiners. If the game was truly great and the only thing we had to pay for every year was the new game with updated rosters and new animations, then I would be fine with it, but instead we get the same broken game only with upgraded presentation. I truly hope you enjoy the game, I wasn't being a ah*, thats not how I work, but if you can't accept my sincerity than shame on you.

My point is tons of people said NCAA 10 was too fast.
So EA added different levels of game speed...

Now that's a problem.
On many levels developers can't win for losing.

I will man up and say this. I was out of line with quoting you and making my reply.

I can respect your opinion and desires of a better game but after reading all the "cookie cutter" posts from the same posters time after time after time... It gets old.
Again I say my thoughts on the game (And for what it's worth I also have a few bad things to say about NCAA11) but then move on. I don't ccontinually post the same thing over and over.

Most of us want a great game and I for one think NCAA11 looks headed that way. I will always have issues though with agenda posters.

In the end though it's just a game and no one is forced to buy it

My appologies

# 1496 JayBee74 @ 06/18/10 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Playmakers


	Come on Jaybee your a quality poster But even if that game had sliders i find it hard to believe you guys wouldn't still mess with the player ratings to fix gameplay...... One of the things i used to hate about NBA 2K fans was that they would act like only NBA Live needed ratings adjusted to fix game play issues Yet after 1-2 months you'd always see roster files for NBA 2K with guys tweaking the game beyond sliders... I don't care what anyone say's whether it's APF, Backbreaker, NFL 2K5 or Madden the game play is going to be flawed in some ways. Everyone of those games requires some kind of extra editing to the players in order to make it play better on the field. But it seems like the NCAA community seems to overeact much more and blow things out of proportion.

Thanks PM-I'm not disagreeing with what you said, it's just that the player editing in Backbreaker is so ridiculous, you can't directly edit players to achieve a desired improvement in the game. For example I'd like the O-Line to pass block a little better (I really do!!) so I could make improvements in all teams' O-lines, but it doesn't work that way. The only thing you can directly edit is a player's name and jersey number. Your only player editing input is two sliders that designate how many Gold Players you want on offense (1-11) or defense (1-11).

# 1497 mgoblue678 @ 06/18/10 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JayBee74


	Thanks PM-I'm not disagreeing with what you said, it's just that the player editing in Backbreaker is so ridiculous, you can't directly edit players to achieve a desired improvement in the game. For example I'd like the O-Line to pass block a little better (I really do!!) so I could make improvements in all teams' O-lines, but it doesn't work that way. The only thing you can directly edit is a player's name and jersey number. Your only player editing input is two sliders that designate how many Gold Players you want on offense (1-11) or defense (1-11).

Not to get this thread off topic, but Jaybee if you check out the Backbreaker roster forum FlyingFinn has created a editor that allows you to edit player ratings. It is only for the 360 though.

# 1498 Playmakers @ 06/18/10 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JayBee74


	Thanks PM-I'm not disagreeing with what you said, it's just that the player editing in Backbreaker is so ridiculous, you can't directly edit players to achieve a desired improvement in the game. For example I'd like the O-Line to pass block a little better (I really do!!) so I could make improvements in all teams' O-lines, but it doesn't work that way. The only thing you can directly edit is a player's name and jersey number. Your only player editing input is two sliders that designate how many Gold Players you want on offense (1-11) or defense (1-11).

Ok my bad i thought i read a post in those forums where guys had found away to re-rate players in several area's of the game now?

I saw guys rating QB's and DB's unless i read their post wrong

# 1499 mgoblue678 @ 06/18/10 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Playmakers


	Ok my bad i thought i read a post in those forums where guys had found away to re-rate players in several area's of the game now? I saw guys rating QB's and DB's unless i read their post wrong

That is correct. It is only for the 360 though, so maybe Jaybee has the game on the PS3.

# 1500 JayBee74 @ 06/18/10 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mgoblue678


	That is correct. It is only for the 360 though, so maybe Jaybee has the game on the PS3.

no, my bad-I'll have to check that out. Thanks.

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