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03:56 PM - May 14, 2010 by stiffarmleftBackbreaker Videos
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Another thing. When they throw to the TE on the safety valve out pattern, it actually looked like a TE!!! He was slow and lumbering, but huge and tough to bring down. So most likely a blocking TE just running a safe route as the 3 or 4th read. Awesome.
Wow, I think this game might be really fun to play. Interesting play mechanic.
I really like leading all my passes, ala 2k5. I know Precision passing is in Madden.
I just do not like the amount of lead on passes..
I am going to try this game.
I really like leading all my passes, ala 2k5. I know Precision passing is in Madden.
I just do not like the amount of lead on passes..
I am going to try this game.
Can someone explain the "after-touch" mechanic in this game? Is it meant to be used while in your throwing motion to lead the runner a specific way, or is it used after releasing the ball to put an animation on the receiver so he can catch it a certain way? I was really confused about this.
If it's the former, I'm surprised they didn't go the Maximum Passing route that the NFL 2K series used where you use the left analog stick while throwing to lead your receiver a certain way, because it also encourages you to stand still while throwing so you don't accidentally underthrow it on a fade-away, etc/. Using the right stick for a few motions is a little much, like flicking up for a short bullet and then flicking left before releasing it to lead your receiver left, etc.
If it's after the pass, can someone explain to me what we're actually doing to affect the ball/receiver?
If it's the former, I'm surprised they didn't go the Maximum Passing route that the NFL 2K series used where you use the left analog stick while throwing to lead your receiver a certain way, because it also encourages you to stand still while throwing so you don't accidentally underthrow it on a fade-away, etc/. Using the right stick for a few motions is a little much, like flicking up for a short bullet and then flicking left before releasing it to lead your receiver left, etc.
If it's after the pass, can someone explain to me what we're actually doing to affect the ball/receiver?
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NoDakHusker @ 05/15/10 09:49 PM
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bonannogiovanni @ 05/15/10 10:01 PM
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Again, this is where I'm lost.
The passing mechanic with all four directions is during the throwing animation. Press to the left and you'll throw to the left of the WR, up and its high, etc. etc. Rob has touched on this before.
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I still wonder why they mapped it to the right stick. Seems tedious compared to the ease of the left stick while you throw with the right stick already. Could cause some confusion or ambiguity (I could say the same thing for switching receivers with the right stick as well, for fear of accidentally throwing the ball instead).
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BrianFifaFan @ 05/16/10 01:03 AM
Man, I really dug that vid. Movement seemed really good and the hits looked really authentic. The passing mechanic and watching it in motion has me really thinking about giving this a run! I just want to see some raw gameplay to see if the game really has a "sim" feel to it. The clips look great but don't tell the whole story. But each vid, I'm liking this game more and more....Did I mention I love the RS mechanics?! 
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blackscorpion11 @ 05/16/10 01:09 AM
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I don't like the fact that we even have this as an issue.. I say accept it and roll with it..No one gets tired or hurt..
I'm down with the game but not the positive spin.
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NoDakHusker @ 05/16/10 01:18 AM
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But that doesn't stop me from getting this game
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Yeah, I'm actually really impressed. Now, I believe I understand the after-touch mechanic so here is my best guess. I believe you hit either up to throw or down and up to lob the ball. Once you do that, your QB will begin his throwing animation by either stepping up into the throw or stepping back to throw something like a screen. While he is in his throwing animation, I believe we are to basically "aim" our passes before the ball leaves his hand. It wouldn't make sense to do it after it comes out. That would be akin to putting backspin on a ball in Tiger Woods golf after it's already in the air, very unrealistic.
I believe this just tells the ball which direction to come off of his hand. If you hit nothing, the ball will go straight at the receiver, which isn't bad on routes like comebacks and out routes right next to the sidelines, but on posts, slants, crosses, flies, and stuff like that, you want to lead the receiver.
Now, you have to couple this with the timing mechanic so you can't just go throwing the ball out in front of your receiver but at the wrong time because that would just make the ball go even farther away from him. So, all in all, I'm extremely pleased with the direction the passing and running mechanics have gone. It's a very simple concept but one that is going to be very difficult to master.
Now, I saw someone complaining about when the QB is taking off running but still scanning the field how they might have an issue flipping through their receivers and might either pick the wrong one and throw a pick or never get to the one and get sacked. To that I say, exactly!!! This is exactly the same mindset that runs through a QBs head on the field when he's got the whole defense running after him to sack him. It's harder to locate the open receiver on plays like that and it shouldn't be as easy as just pressing a button and the ball goes right where you want it.
Sorry this is long guys, but I just wanted to take a second to clear this up. Hope it helps.
I believe this just tells the ball which direction to come off of his hand. If you hit nothing, the ball will go straight at the receiver, which isn't bad on routes like comebacks and out routes right next to the sidelines, but on posts, slants, crosses, flies, and stuff like that, you want to lead the receiver.
Now, you have to couple this with the timing mechanic so you can't just go throwing the ball out in front of your receiver but at the wrong time because that would just make the ball go even farther away from him. So, all in all, I'm extremely pleased with the direction the passing and running mechanics have gone. It's a very simple concept but one that is going to be very difficult to master.
Now, I saw someone complaining about when the QB is taking off running but still scanning the field how they might have an issue flipping through their receivers and might either pick the wrong one and throw a pick or never get to the one and get sacked. To that I say, exactly!!! This is exactly the same mindset that runs through a QBs head on the field when he's got the whole defense running after him to sack him. It's harder to locate the open receiver on plays like that and it shouldn't be as easy as just pressing a button and the ball goes right where you want it.
Sorry this is long guys, but I just wanted to take a second to clear this up. Hope it helps.
While I am looking forward to getting my hands on this game, I think people are over-thinking this passing deal. I would not be surprised if this is on some Tiger Woods after-touch effect stuff which is not good.
If Nat. Mot. nails this the first time out, all the kudos in the world but knowing that Nat. Mot. has never made a video game before, I'm not going to over excite myself, not to mention, this game was first announced in 07 (or was it 06? Hmm) and here it is 3yrs later, the game is not out, yet, and they can't even get basic "little things" like fatigue and injuries in the game There are still a few suspect looking things going on in this game, as well, so getting hands on will tell.
2 weeks and 2 days left...although I think I will be ballin' with BB a lil earlier.
If Nat. Mot. nails this the first time out, all the kudos in the world but knowing that Nat. Mot. has never made a video game before, I'm not going to over excite myself, not to mention, this game was first announced in 07 (or was it 06? Hmm) and here it is 3yrs later, the game is not out, yet, and they can't even get basic "little things" like fatigue and injuries in the game There are still a few suspect looking things going on in this game, as well, so getting hands on will tell.
2 weeks and 2 days left...although I think I will be ballin' with BB a lil earlier.
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Exonerated @ 05/16/10 10:50 PM
Correct me if i'm wrong, but did the video say you can lead the ball AFTER its thrown?
I don't particularly enjoy that ballistic missile stuff.
I hope thats not true, and that you have to lead simultaneously as you throw it.
I don't particularly enjoy that ballistic missile stuff.
I hope thats not true, and that you have to lead simultaneously as you throw it.
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NoDakHusker @ 05/16/10 10:54 PM
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Read june1004's post if you want clarification.
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