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MLB '10: The Show - Franchise Issues Update

07:41 PM - March 2, 2010 by Kolbe

Here is our list of the current known issues that we're looking into for immediate attention:

Attendance:
Attendance is not correctly getting reported. In talking with Jeff, he has a fix in mind that is fairly safe but would end up in the actual attendance not mirroring the paid attendance you get in franchise. It would fix the issue where you have 50k+ people attending Spring Training games. This will also fix issues with playoff games and games played in any stadium that isn't your own.
* UPDATE - This was caused by the stadium select screen being added to franchise, causing the attendance to be reset using the non-franchise logic. The stadium select was previously never used for playoff games, so it didn't handle that situation. This is fixed and it also fixes the issue with spring training games showing the attendance as if they were in their home stadium.

Trade Waivers:
Users can claim anyone off of trade waivers - CPU teams will never pull them back.
* UPDATE - fixed this one - a simple fix that will prevent user teams from simply claiming everyone that was passed through trade waivers.

No Contract:
Players can get into a state where they have no contract.
* UPDATE - As soon as a player was placed on release waivers, his contract was cleared. Then if he was claimed, he didn't have a contract. It was also clearing his 40-man roster status, which is what was causing him to go to AAA instead of the MLB team. Have a fix for this.

Player Potential:
Looks like a fairly bad miscommunication ended up with us having some seriously out of whack potentials. This will be corrected with the next roster download (Monday)
* UPDATE - Lorne is taking care of this - will be fixed with a roster update.

Multi Closer issue:
If a CPU team has 2 closers (one acquired in a trade) - they will always send one down to AAA.
* UPDATE - It would just look at the closers and see that they had more than they needed so they'd send one down, but they wouldn't look to see if they could send down a reliever instead and keep the 2nd closer in the bullpen. Have a fix for this.

Multi Trade players:
Not even sure what the details are on this one, but it looks like sometimes a player is traded and then re-traded or waived. Currently investigating.
* UPDATE - I have a fix for the trades. I'll not allow a player to be placed on the trading block by the CPU if he has been acquired by a trade recently.

Manual Trade issue:
I've seen a few reports of users having trades set to Manual and still having trades done by the CPU. Again, no idea how this is happening and we're looking for more information.
* UPDATE - Not sure what's happening here, we can not get this one to reproduce. Whoever is getting this, please make sure that you don't have your profile option set to something different than your global setting. If you need to talk to me via PM or IM for further info, please just say the word!
* UPDATE 2 Thanks to tabarnes19 and a couple hours of debugging we have found the issue and have a fix in the works.

If you respond, please please PLEASE do not be noise. We need clear help or silence - we want these things cleared up as much as you do!

-K

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# 461 countryboy @ 03/07/10 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by puremvp1


	you're trolling just as much as him...just because you defend the game doesnt make it "ok" with that said, does anybody know if a patch is even coming?

yes a patch is coming...but when it will drop is unknown. My guess...about 6 weeks or mid-April..for those not near a calendar.

# 462 ShowTyme15 @ 03/07/10 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KingSeyton


	You turn CPU control on and the CPU trades your players right?

NOPE! 30 team control is when teh CPU does trades. U turn CPU roster control on you make all the moves there is no cpu trading.

# 463 DarthRambo @ 03/07/10 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tabarnes19


	Offseason in Jan.

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by KingSeyton


	Yeah, so either you have NO trades or you have to approve EVERY trade. Is that not correct, because thats exactly what I had said and some one said I was wrong.

Yes, that is correct sir

Either NO trades, or you approve all offers(which btw, isn't many so its not like u get a popup every single day!)

# 464 Jaysonguy @ 03/07/10 02:23 PM

I have an idea

How about someone here (that know what's they doing) makes a new thread in how to work around the franchise problem by controlling all the teams and still have the CPU trade with itself? Step by step in great detail.

Then whatever Mod works this area could sticky/pin it in place at the top of the forum and Monday when everyone gets their potential meters done people could start their franchises.

I see no drawback at all to overseeing everything because if you want to interfere you can and if you don't you don't

This is a great thread but it's got too much of "This game made me blind in my left eye so the developers are bad people" in it and frankly it's getting everything off track, I'd rather see this thread used in helping to a solution rather then crying. This is a great "what do we do" thread but it's hard to be of help to someone because of the fighting and complaining.

Also no, I can't make the thread because there's already at least 2 people that have this down pat and I'd rather they do this.

So good idea? Everyone loves it?

# 465 Skyboxer @ 03/07/10 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ravens1352


	What a crime. I can't belieIve I paid $60 for a game that is obviously still being developed and can't play how I want. I love "The Show" series but this is making me question if I bought the wrong game this year.

Reason 1,216 I rarely come to this part of OS any longer....

# 466 bababooey76 @ 03/07/10 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyboxer


	Reason 1,216 I rarely come to this part of OS any longer....

Why? He is right. It is ridiculous to buy a broken game, only to have the developers go on vacation as soon as they have your money and get no guarantee or any idea if or when all of this stuff will be fixed. It is really bad business. You should not have to do all of these work arounds to play.

# 467 countryboy @ 03/07/10 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyboxer


	Reason 1,216 I rarely come to this part of OS any longer....

actually...I find it entertaining.

# 468 countryboy @ 03/07/10 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bababooey76


	Why? He is right. It is ridiculous to buy a broken game, only to have the developers go on vacation as soon as they have your money and get no guarantee or any idea if or when all of this stuff will be fixed. It is really bad business. You should not have to do all of these work arounds to play.

This stuff will be fixed...that is why this thread was started, Kolbe was letting people know what plans of action they were taking to fix these issues.

And while one shouldn't have to do all these workarounds...it could be worse. You could not have any workarounds to use to avoid these issues and play franchise while you wait for the patch.

# 469 DarthRambo @ 03/07/10 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaysonguy


	I have an idea How about someone here (that know what's they doing) makes a new thread in how to work around the franchise problem by controlling all the teams and still have the CPU trade with itself? Step by step in great detail. Then whatever Mod works this area could sticky/pin it in place at the top of the forum and Monday when everyone gets their potential meters done people could start their franchises. I see no drawback at all to overseeing everything because if you want to interfere you can and if you don't you don't This is a great thread but it's got too much of "This game made me blind in my left eye so the developers are bad people" in it and frankly it's getting everything off track, I'd rather see this thread used in helping to a solution rather then crying. This is a great "what do we do" thread but it's hard to be of help to someone because of the fighting and complaining. Also no, I can't make the thread because there's already at least 2 people that have this down pat and I'd rather they do this. So good idea? Everyone loves it?

That's a good idea, but honestly there's not a whole lot of detail involved. It's a pretty simple fix. Control all 30 teams, play with 1. Set Trades to MANUAL, and its fixed!

# 470 bababooey76 @ 03/07/10 02:35 PM

But then there are NO trades

# 471 Glenn33 @ 03/07/10 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by puremvp1


	with that said, does anybody know if a patch is even coming?

Why do people keep asking this? THIS THREAD WAS CREATED BY SCEA and details what fixes they have already found. Of course there is going to be another patch - why else would Russel bring all these things to our attention.

# 472 roolz @ 03/07/10 02:37 PM

The more I read this thread, the more I confuse myself

Now im all geared up to start my franchise tomorrow with the new roster set... and I am happy that there are workarounds, nothing like putting in a bit of work to get the most out of something that will give me months of enjoyment

So im after the settings that will help me the most, correct me if im wrong:

My profile to the team I am playing with.
No Profile setting into all other 29 teams.

Trades set to Manual for my Profile (along with anything else I want set to Manual)

Trades set to Manual for Global settings, but everything else set to AUTO.

Now with the last part, does that mean the CPU will propose a trade between say Boston and Chicago, but I then 'approve' it or not.... (thats the setting Knight mentioned at some point way back in the thread).. this is what I want. I want the CPU to propose trades, but for me to say... yes you can or no you cant (if its silly). But at the same time I want the CPU to do its lineups, injuries and all that fluff.

So if thats what I want, are the settings I proposed the correct ones, cheers

# 473 ChubbyBanana @ 03/07/10 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bababooey76


	Why? He is right. It is ridiculous to buy a broken game, only to have the developers go on vacation as soon as they have your money and get no guarantee or any idea if or when all of this stuff will be fixed. It is really bad business. You should not have to do all of these work arounds to play.

I agree that you shouldn't have to do work-arounds to play.

HOWEVER to say that the devs are on vacation as soon as the game was launched is not true. They are working on the fixes as fast as they can.

But believe what you will. I have a feeling people here will call bull**** on whatever I type anyways...

# 474 Glenn33 @ 03/07/10 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bababooey76


	Why? He is right. It is ridiculous to buy a broken game, only to have the developers go on vacation as soon as they have your money and get no guarantee or any idea if or when all of this stuff will be fixed. It is really bad business. You should not have to do all of these work arounds to play.

Go on vacation? Did you read the very first post of this thread or skip to the end? Guys - let's just all hold hands and hug it out or something. It's gonna get fixed - it's gonna be alright.

# 475 DarthRambo @ 03/07/10 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by countryboy


	This stuff will be fixed...that is why this thread was started, Kolbe was letting people know what plans of action they were taking to fix these issues. And while one shouldn't have to do all these workarounds...it could be worse. You could not have any workarounds to use to avoid these issues and play franchise while you wait for the patch.

Exactly!

# 476 Skyboxer @ 03/07/10 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bababooey76


	Why? He is right. It is ridiculous to buy a broken game, only to have the developers go on vacation as soon as they have your money and get no guarantee or any idea if or when all of this stuff will be fixed. It is really bad business. You should not have to do all of these work arounds to play.

You sir have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. No developer comes close the SCEA as far as support. Well the Show crew anyways...
They also have lives so maybe you should understand
1: No game in history has been releases without issues and
2: It's a VIDEO GAME and SCEA will fix issues, period. They work looong and hard and miss tons of time with their families to bring this game to you. Don't like it then trade it in and move on and skip next years version.
To say these guys take your money and go on vacation right after is idiotic. They've been here damn near every day since release getting feedback etc... Try actually knowing what you are talking about before you post something likie that again.

# 477 Jaysonguy @ 03/07/10 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Trinity120


	That's a good idea, but honestly there's not a whole lot of detail involved. It's a pretty simple fix. Control all 30 teams, play with 1. Set Trades to MANUAL, and its fixed!

Yes but set who's settings to manual? The CPU? or the user? Both?

I'm just going on the questions asked

If someone made a thread that had detailed instructions on how every single setting for the franchise should be it would stop a lot of the questions and (God I hope) the complaints

I've read this thread from the start but I don't think I'm in the majority when it comes to that. A concise thread would accomplish a whole lot towards helping the community and this thread could be used the way it was originally intended.

# 478 bababooey76 @ 03/07/10 02:41 PM

Call it whatever you want to call it. I am more mad at myself for trading in 09 and hoping this would not happen when I knew it would. Wanted to get a head start on my franchise, and now have no clue on when all this will be fixed

# 479 Skyboxer @ 03/07/10 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn33


	Why do people keep asking this? THIS THREAD WAS CREATED BY SCEA and details what fixes they have already found. Of course there is going to be another patch - why else would Russel bring all these things to our attention.

Couldn't have been. They are on vacation since they have our money now....

# 480 ChubbyBanana @ 03/07/10 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyboxer


	You sir have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. No developer comes close the SCEA as far as support when it comes to the Show. They also have lives so maybe you should understand 1: No game in history has been releases without issues and 2: It's a VIDEO GAME and SCEA will fix issues, period. They work looong and hard and miss tons of time with their families to bring this game to you. Don't like it then trade it in and move on and skip next years version. To say these guys take your money and go on vacation right after is idiotic. They've been here damn near every day since release getting feedback etc... Try actually knowing what you are talking about before you post something likie that again.

Skyboxer said it better than I can...

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