04:19 AM - December 4, 2009 by Xpider
Madden NFL 10 patch #2 is available for the PS3. No timetable has been set for the Xbox 360. Please post your impressions here.
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04:19 AM - December 4, 2009 by XpiderMadden NFL 10 Videos
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# 121
countryboy @ 12/04/09 12:38 PM
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# 122
jeremym480 @ 12/04/09 12:39 PM
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Now, has there been a little to many post on sim stats? Maybe.... But, I for one took something from reading it because I trust Gator and I won't have to do those same thing's myself. Therefore, I appreciate his work and didn't mind reading through this thread.
Anyways, that's my last post on this subject because I don't want other's to have to comb through here and go through off topic post about game play vs. sim stats-- when clearly both should be here.
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My point is that sim stats are just as random but we can tell pretty quickly if the linebackers and corners are still sitting to deep. If the corners still have eyes in back their heads and so on.
Sim stats will NEVER be perfect. To many variables. Plus people cry "broken" all the time, when a sim stat is off by a few numbers. Then real life it happens and it is like "ohhh maybe it is not so far off".
Basically the jist of what I am saying is both are just as random and not everything should be cried so quickly that it is broken. Sim stats are to random to do that so quickly. But you can tell instantly if a player is in the correct "football" position.
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Hello guys I just downloaded the patch, decided to play a game between the washington Redskins and Dallas Cowboys.
The first thing I noticed was that the defensive lineman were shedding their blocks a little quicker.
But I was alarmed with washingtons first play that was a 78 yard pass from Campbell to S. Moss, I was puzzled how wide open he was but noticed that he shedded a couple of tackles to score, I began to think that maybe the patch will cause the game to become a scoring machine.
The 2nd thing I noticed is that the defensive backs dive at the ball more which is good, I noticed that when the quarterback now gets rid of the ball he is throwing to an open receiver or one that is covered but there is a little seperation.
The replays are a little more frequent, I finally saw DeMarcus Ware coming off his blocks quicker and was adding pressure, he did not get to the quarterback but was causing him to get rid of the ball quicker.
screen passes were setting up like they do in real life and are effective and the defense persuit angles are getting there to stop them.
Running the ball was difficult but realistic.
I saw Washington quarterback stepped up in the pocket and took off running because everyone was covered and picked up 11 yards.
Here are the stats from the game. I am going to sim a whole season and take a look at the stats. It will take some time and several game to get a complete analogy regarding the quality of the patch.
Washington 10 0 10 0 20
Dallas 0 3 7 17 27
1 2 3 4 F
Wash Dal
Total offense 331 419
Rushing yards 81 51
Passing Yards 250 368
First Downs 10 12
Punt Return 11 35
Kick Return 129 114
Total Yards 471 568
Turnovers 1 2
3rd Down con. 5-17 7-14
4th Down con. 1-2 0-0
2-point con. 0-0 0-0
Redzone % 3-3 2-2
Redzone TD 1 1
Redzone FG 2 1
Penalties 1-10 0-0
Possesion time 33:24 26:36
Player stats
Passing
Wash: J. Cambell 19-32-262-2-1
Dal : T. Romo 22-29-373-3-0
Rushing
Wash
C. Portis 23-60 2.6 avg. 0 TD
J.Cambell 2-11 5.5 avg 0 TD
M.Sellers 1-11 11.0 avg 0 TD
L.Betts 1-(-1) -1.0 avg 0 TD
Dal
M. Barber 26-53 2.0 avg 0 TD
T. Romo 2-(-4) -4.0 avg 0 TD
F. Jones 1-2 2.0 avg 0 TD
Receiving
Wash.
S. Moss 5-144-1
F. Davis 4-44-1
D. Thomas 3-23-0
C. Portis 2-25-0
L. Betts 2-10-0
A Randle El 1-5-0
T. Yoder 1-4-0
M. Kelly 1-7-0
Dal.
M. Austin 4-119-1
J. Whitten 4-100-1
F. Jones 4-48-1
P. Crayton 3-56-0
M. Barber 3-20-0
D. Anderson 2-9-0
R. Williams 1-15-0
M. Bennet 1-6-0
The first thing I noticed was that the defensive lineman were shedding their blocks a little quicker.
But I was alarmed with washingtons first play that was a 78 yard pass from Campbell to S. Moss, I was puzzled how wide open he was but noticed that he shedded a couple of tackles to score, I began to think that maybe the patch will cause the game to become a scoring machine.
The 2nd thing I noticed is that the defensive backs dive at the ball more which is good, I noticed that when the quarterback now gets rid of the ball he is throwing to an open receiver or one that is covered but there is a little seperation.
The replays are a little more frequent, I finally saw DeMarcus Ware coming off his blocks quicker and was adding pressure, he did not get to the quarterback but was causing him to get rid of the ball quicker.
screen passes were setting up like they do in real life and are effective and the defense persuit angles are getting there to stop them.
Running the ball was difficult but realistic.
I saw Washington quarterback stepped up in the pocket and took off running because everyone was covered and picked up 11 yards.
Here are the stats from the game. I am going to sim a whole season and take a look at the stats. It will take some time and several game to get a complete analogy regarding the quality of the patch.
Washington 10 0 10 0 20
Dallas 0 3 7 17 27
1 2 3 4 F
Wash Dal
Total offense 331 419
Rushing yards 81 51
Passing Yards 250 368
First Downs 10 12
Punt Return 11 35
Kick Return 129 114
Total Yards 471 568
Turnovers 1 2
3rd Down con. 5-17 7-14
4th Down con. 1-2 0-0
2-point con. 0-0 0-0
Redzone % 3-3 2-2
Redzone TD 1 1
Redzone FG 2 1
Penalties 1-10 0-0
Possesion time 33:24 26:36
Player stats
Passing
Wash: J. Cambell 19-32-262-2-1
Dal : T. Romo 22-29-373-3-0
Rushing
Wash
C. Portis 23-60 2.6 avg. 0 TD
J.Cambell 2-11 5.5 avg 0 TD
M.Sellers 1-11 11.0 avg 0 TD
L.Betts 1-(-1) -1.0 avg 0 TD
Dal
M. Barber 26-53 2.0 avg 0 TD
T. Romo 2-(-4) -4.0 avg 0 TD
F. Jones 1-2 2.0 avg 0 TD
Receiving
Wash.
S. Moss 5-144-1
F. Davis 4-44-1
D. Thomas 3-23-0
C. Portis 2-25-0
L. Betts 2-10-0
A Randle El 1-5-0
T. Yoder 1-4-0
M. Kelly 1-7-0
Dal.
M. Austin 4-119-1
J. Whitten 4-100-1
F. Jones 4-48-1
P. Crayton 3-56-0
M. Barber 3-20-0
D. Anderson 2-9-0
R. Williams 1-15-0
M. Bennet 1-6-0
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2008 - 20, 15, 13, 13, 12
2007 - 13, 12, 11, 11, 11
2006 - 15, 12, 12, 11, 11
And so far this year Chris Johnson has 19. And going all the way back to 1999 the highest total ever has been Adrian Peterson's 20 last year.
I just don't understand how they let this get in the final patch. I mean Josh Looman acknowledged the fact that increasing backup ypc would make the starters' ypc and totals insanely high. I thought he left off by saying he would leave the ypc alone so it wouldn't break the rushing game on the high end.
More stat impressions please, could we have someone display defensive statistics i.e. tackles. And for the guy complaining about gameplay impressions, people will post them when they are ready, its a forum and you can't expect people to do what you want. All these people posting stat impressions think that is a bigger deal than gameplay and you can't tell them to check something they don't care about as much just for you. Plus the patch hasn't been out long enough for people to post educated gameplay impressions.
# 128
countryboy @ 12/04/09 01:04 PM
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Oh and I didn't ignore your response about inaccurate programming. Responding to that comment does nothing but continue to take this thread completely off topic.
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I'm playing my first game with the patch(yes, gameplay impressions!!!1!!11!)...I've already seen a CPU kickoff go out of bounds and the CPU block my FG...neither of which I've seen in Madden before lol. It was cool on the FG, I had lowered the arrow to kick more of a line drive because it was a longer kick, the CPU took advantage I guess. Seeing as these have happened in the first game, hopefully it isn't too regular...
Other impressions that can be taken with a grain of salt seeing as I've only played three quarters so far...the CPU QB seems to make wiser/quicker decisions, and when they wait too long, they will get sacked...the CPU ballcarrier seems to take better routes to get maximum yards, rather than running sideways or backwards for no apparent reason...and the HUM rushing game seems a bit more difficult. I'm playing on default All-Pro.
Once again, I've only played three quarters, so everything in this post can be taken with a grain of salt lol. I was just excited to see my FG get blocked(that sounds kinda weird).
Other impressions that can be taken with a grain of salt seeing as I've only played three quarters so far...the CPU QB seems to make wiser/quicker decisions, and when they wait too long, they will get sacked...the CPU ballcarrier seems to take better routes to get maximum yards, rather than running sideways or backwards for no apparent reason...and the HUM rushing game seems a bit more difficult. I'm playing on default All-Pro.
Once again, I've only played three quarters, so everything in this post can be taken with a grain of salt lol. I was just excited to see my FG get blocked(that sounds kinda weird).
How are the centers (or linemen) picking up the middle linebacker on blitz. I stop playing a while ago. Right after game where a guy got 12 sacks in with Shawn Meeriman at middle linebacker. What he would do is put the him right over the center. And come through every single time. I couldn't run the ball. I couldn't even throw quick slants. The running backs couldn't even step up to block him. Thats how fast he got through.
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Thank you!
For the Love of Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, how are people bitching and moaning over memorial stickers being on a team's helmet after one season. Really guys? Seriously? That is so freaking stupid, EA puts all this hard work in trying to get us a game that everyone bitches about, and they add the memorial stickers to add a sense of realism, and then we have people complaining that they are on the helmets more than one season. What a damn joke.
The gamplay improvements sounds alot better now. Can someone please let us know if it still has the stupid Bengals/Bears team history stats for every other team in the league like it did pre-patch? Also what about Kick Returns? Any harder or easier?
I am looking forward to the running game being more difficult and the cut scenes/replay fixes. Can someone explain the effect of how extending the post-play a few seconds has on the game?
Oh and about sliders...they make sliders so you can fine-tune the game to play how you want. You have to look at the market as a whole. You have alot of kids that play the games just for fun, you have people who play online, you have people that suck at the game, people that are great at the game, people who like arcade style vs sim style...there are just too many factors out there for them to just create a dry-cut set of difficulty levels. So the sliders thing does help and does make a difference. I've noticed a difference on my season's stats around the league with the sliders I use.
The gamplay improvements sounds alot better now. Can someone please let us know if it still has the stupid Bengals/Bears team history stats for every other team in the league like it did pre-patch? Also what about Kick Returns? Any harder or easier?
I am looking forward to the running game being more difficult and the cut scenes/replay fixes. Can someone explain the effect of how extending the post-play a few seconds has on the game?
Oh and about sliders...they make sliders so you can fine-tune the game to play how you want. You have to look at the market as a whole. You have alot of kids that play the games just for fun, you have people who play online, you have people that suck at the game, people that are great at the game, people who like arcade style vs sim style...there are just too many factors out there for them to just create a dry-cut set of difficulty levels. So the sliders thing does help and does make a difference. I've noticed a difference on my season's stats around the league with the sliders I use.
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What he said.
These are the same people who dump a girl because she has one ear slightly higher than the other and they just can't get over it. I really don't see how they can enjoy ANY game. "My guy got hit 4 times by a Scar-H and didn't die in MW2. What a joke!!".
On topic, if anyone can post a screen or just let me know if the draft info is on the drafted players in franchise and not just the original players that'd be appreciated.
# 137
countryboy @ 12/04/09 01:38 PM
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And you too TimmeH!
Cool. Can't wait to download it when I get home later.
Is it fair to say that this is probably the last patch we'll see for 2010?
Is it fair to say that this is probably the last patch we'll see for 2010?
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