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Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Details Coming Next Week

08:27 PM - October 8, 2009 by Steve_OS

According to Ian, patch #2 details for Madden NFL 10 will be announced next week.

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	"We are wrapping up the 2nd title update for Madden 10 - lots of good improvements, additions, fixes. Look for a list of stuff next week."

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# 101 19 @ 10/10/09 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by z Revis


	How did I know that this is what this thread would turn into.... And just for the record, I have yet to play a game that didn't need a patch. Every game needs patches. Stop singling out Madden as if it's the only game that needs patched.

Agreed. Most every game I own has been patched. It is what it is. Just the level of contempt for the game developers seems a little much IMO.

# 102 jclentzthadon @ 10/10/09 12:11 PM

To all you little brats and to all you geeks that make vidoes on youtube. Quit being so freaking WEAK!!!!!!!!! They are trying to fix the game. You guys are ruining the forum with all of your little stupid a$$ complaints about "well technically in the NFL on sunday this happens after the coin flip and in my madden game it's not there"

It's a video game, a very fun for the majority. Yeah it has problems, I've been playing maddens since 93, seen them all. They are trying to patch the damn game. STFU with all this stupid a$$ crying and moaning like a bunch of little spoiled brat babies. Yeah we get it Moody, you don't like the game ok. Go make a video and break down the deep third coverage in the cover 3 and how it is flawed OR go make a vid that shows a guys run through a wall after a TD, something cool like that...

Alright, that will do for now. Sorry to interupt the crying babies. You can return...

# 103 RedZoneD25 @ 10/10/09 12:20 PM

I don't see the point of all the negativity...Nobody is going to want to appease you when all that happens is complaints. Go take a look at the broadcast camera thread. That's how you do it. Respectfully. Do you go up to your mother or girlfriend/wife and completely chew her out for overcooking your dinner? THIS CHEESEBURGER ONLY HAS KETCHUP ON ONE SIDE, AND THE BUN HAS AN UNEVEN AMOUNT OF SEEDS! Honestly, treat others as you would like to be treated. Ian doesn't have to, and likely won't listen to anybody anymore because of the approach and direction of most of the posts here.

Now, for the non anal retentive out here, I think they'll agree that if you compare the leap from 09 to 10, it's dramatic and a great start.

That's all it was supposed to be though if I'm not mistaken, a "let's get it where it should have been before" game. This is what Madden 06 should have been, but it is 2010. We got screwed those years but you'd have to be blind to convince yourself this game is worse than those. It's not what will be played for years to come, and I can't wait to see what the crew digs up for us next year. I'm not a fanboy, but I believe in respect and dignity and I think 85% of this board should wiki it to get a little insight on how to possibly learn to have and/or use it. Thank you guys for a fun game, and remember..The negative will always be more visible than the positive, but that's because the ones who enjoy the game are playing it instead of trying to crash a forum with rants.

# 104 MrHeffalump @ 10/10/09 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jclentzthadon


	To all you little brats and to all you geeks that make vidoes on youtube. Quit being so freaking WEAK!!!!!!!!! They are trying to fix the game. You guys are ruining the forum with all of your little stupid a$$ complaints about "well technically in the NFL on sunday this happens after the coin flip and in my madden game it's not there" It's a video game, a very fun for the majority. Yeah it has problems, I've been playing maddens since 93, seen them all. They are trying to patch the damn game. STFU with all this stupid a$$ crying and moaning like a bunch of little spoiled brat babies. Yeah we get it Moody, you don't like the game ok. Go make a video and break down the deep third coverage in the cover 3 and how it is flawed OR go make a vid that shows a guys run through a wall after a TD, something cool like that... Alright, that will do for now. Sorry to interupt the crying babies. You can return...

I would post something more substantial, but doesn't the word "irony" just do the trick?

# 105 ChicagoChris @ 10/10/09 01:04 PM

I for one am glad about the patches. Are we faulting the devs for trying to fix the game and make it better? If Ian and co want to release 5 patches for the game....great!

There are VERY FEW, if any, games that ever ship and receive no patches. Not in this day age.

Take a look at Empire Total War. Released in March and was down right unplayable (creative director admitted as much in his blog) and the game has had 5 major patches and multiple hotfixes.

So far we have gotten a patch 1, 6 roster updates, and word on patch 2 very soon all within 2 months. I just don't think that the Madden 10 team gets enough credit for the immense upgrade we all got over Madden 09.

# 106 Azcardinal32 @ 10/10/09 01:15 PM

He mentioned that there were "additions" is it possible that this could be a draft history screen for franchise?

# 107 countryboy @ 10/10/09 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Azcardinal32


	He mentioned that there were "additions" is it possible that this could be a draft history screen for franchise?

I highly doubt it since Josh shot it down in the thread talking about the sim stats.

# 108 bkrich83 @ 10/10/09 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoChris


	I just don't think that the Madden 10 team gets enough credit for the immense upgrade we all got over Madden 09.

It's the influx of new posters. Most probably refugees from MM. It's the vogue thing to do amongst them, hammer and critique Madden and it's developer at all opportunities.. Logic and criticial thinking goes right out the window.

MLB The Show, widely regarded as one of the great sports games of this time, has required multiple patches across it's lifecycle, they get praised for it. Madden Devs do the same thing and it's a negative.

I really wish they would re-open MM so all the people who are here for one sole purpose could go back to doing it over there.

# 109 matt8204 @ 10/10/09 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by treq21


	I think you are forgetting who the consumer is here. We are the ones that have spent our hard earned money on this game. I should be grateful that I have to wait 2 -3 months to get a decent game??? THEY are lucky we buy their game with all the release day bugs. And if there was an alternative that was better, it wouldn't even be a decision. I am glad they are releasing a patch, but I wouldn't say I am grateful.

Excellent point.

# 110 RyanMoody21 @ 10/10/09 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jclentzthadon


	To all you little brats and to all you geeks that make vidoes on youtube. Quit being so freaking WEAK!!!!!!!!! They are trying to fix the game. You guys are ruining the forum with all of your little stupid a$$ complaints about "well technically in the NFL on sunday this happens after the coin flip and in my madden game it's not there" It's a video game, a very fun for the majority. Yeah it has problems, I've been playing maddens since 93, seen them all. They are trying to patch the damn game. STFU with all this stupid a$$ crying and moaning like a bunch of little spoiled brat babies. Yeah we get it Moody, you don't like the game ok. Go make a video and break down the deep third coverage in the cover 3 and how it is flawed OR go make a vid that shows a guys run through a wall after a TD, something cool like that... Alright, that will do for now. Sorry to interupt the crying babies. You can return...

Wow, that sure does look infected.

Im glad I can ruin not only the game for you but also the forums. All based on involuntary interactions. If you dont like the videos you dont have to watch. If you dont like my posts, you can always block them.

Considering Im such a "weak crybaby" I would have thought you could have proved your point much easier than simple name calling.

# 111 bkrich83 @ 10/10/09 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RMoody


	Wow, that sure does look infected. Im glad I can ruin not only the game for you but also the forums. All based on involuntary interactions. If you dont like the videos you dont have to watch. If you dont like my posts, you can always block them. Considering Im such a "weak crybaby" I would have thought you could have proved your point much easier than simple name calling.

defensive.

# 112 bkrich83 @ 10/10/09 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by P2K


	B, Check my sig. You can be in charge of handing out flyers & setting up the meetings

LOL.. I am on it.

# 113 KBLover @ 10/10/09 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by davey225


	Do you go up to your mother or girlfriend/wife and completely chew her out for overcooking your dinner? THIS CHEESEBURGER ONLY HAS KETCHUP ON ONE SIDE, AND THE BUN HAS AN UNEVEN AMOUNT OF SEEDS!

Nah, because there's no set format for how the seeds are to be distributed on a bun or if a cheeseburger must have ketchup on both sides or not

Now if there was a cheeseburger-making league and my girlfriend or wife was in it and they made a game about it, I absolutely would want the league reflected in real life and my girlfriend/wife to be reflected as she is in real life.

I wouldn't want someone to "pickle stick" her in the game and ruin her meal when in real life it wouldn't bother her one bit.

# 114 TreFacTor @ 10/10/09 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TreyIM2


	This is good news. I've actually been 'stuck' on beating this one Madden Moment and haven't gotten back to my 2nd franchise, yet. I guess I'll wait til this patch comes down. As for this comment, I feel u but you have to understand that there's more to devving games than just getting the end product and glitches happen ESPECIALLY in games that have a year or even less of actual dev time. They have shorter deadlines for different phases of the game and such and when it comes down to the problems, they try to work on the major ones that don't completely kill the gameplay because, again, they only have so much time to work on the game. Look at the NBA2K series every year - Glitches and legacy issues that have NEVER been fixed. It's not just EA, dude. Even some of the problems in Madden 10 that they said they fixed, were fixed, to a degree. Sometimes they don't appear and sometimes they do, like the eyes behind the head defenders who know JUST when to turn and bat down the ball. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. I give them credit for trying but I think it's something inherent in the engines that would be too time consuming to fix as it would literally "break" the engine. They don't have time to do that and don't even think about EA taking year off with Madden. Madden is MONEY and stocks would be affected by that type of decision. There would be definite backlash as a company but, bottom line, understand that it's more than just YOU just playing the game. I give them credit for what they have tried and done. Heck, I wonder how much dev time and/or devs this is taking away from the next Madden to keep trying to work on these patches. I'm pretty sure they have a small handful of guys working on the patch while the rest try to bang out ideas and such to get an alpha done.

No one said that EA has to put out or RUSH OUT Madden every year! They could've supported 09, taken the year off to assure they wouldn't have these issues, and in 2012 they could go out with a bang! This is not the case. The developers have taken a laid back approach because they didn't have to worry about any other game. Now it may be their own arrogance that costs them. They learned nothing form 09, and I'm guessing they will learn nothing from this year. From micro transactions to ripped out incomplete features Madden 10 is just in shambles. The first patch caused more problems than it fixed, and I'm seriously thinking that it will take more than 2 to address them all.

Is it easy to put out an annual release, most deffinetly not, but when you have the better part of 10 years to refine a product, most companies don't have that luxury. Imagine an antivirus company putting out a product as bug ridden as Madden 10... they would not exist next year. Firewall developer... gone if it didn't do what it promised. The game is good, but didn't deliver as promised!

# 115 roadman @ 10/10/09 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TreFacTor


	No one said that EA has to put out or RUSH OUT Madden every year! They could've supported 09, taken the year off to assure they wouldn't have these issues, and in 2012 they could go out with a bang! This is not the case. The developers have taken a laid back approach because they didn't have to worry about any other game. Now it may be their own arrogance that costs them. They learned nothing form 09, and I'm guessing they will learn nothing from this year. From micro transactions to ripped out incomplete features Madden 10 is just in shambles. The first patch caused more problems than it fixed, and I'm seriously thinking that it will take more than 2 to address them all. Is it easy to put out an annual release, most deffinetly not, but when you have the better part of 10 years to refine a product, most companies don't have that luxury. Imagine an antivirus company putting out a product as bug ridden as Madden 10... they would not exist next year. Firewall developer... gone if it didn't do what it promised. The game is good, but didn't deliver as promised!

Welcome to OS.

1. The stockholders certainly wouldn't appreciate Madden coming every other year. If you were a stockholder, would you keep stock of a company that said to their stockholders, "Sorry, we aren't coming out with our cash cow this year, but we will ramp it up again next year.

2. The license with the NFL also requires EA to come out with a game each year.

# 116 bkrich83 @ 10/10/09 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TreFacTor


	No one said that EA has to put out or RUSH OUT Madden every year! They could've supported 09, taken the year off to assure they wouldn't have these issues, and in 2012 they could go out with a bang! !

Actually they are contractually obligated to come out with a game every year if I read correctly.

# 117 Solidice @ 10/10/09 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tick32


	Ok i just went through about 10 pages reading wat every1 has been saying. I feel that we shouldnt have to w8 for a patch. I remember back in 2003 when i got madden 04 it was a perfect game no problems along with 06 (last gen). The dev are using patches as a way of being lazy. then when they come out the game still has issues. Also i dont believe they need to take a year off. ur supposed to build on ur last product and fix problems, but EA keeps shipping the same flaws every year and then some. Without comp. They're just gonna do what they want to do becuz we hav to buy there games if we want NFL players and teams. So all we can do is pray

so Madden 04(or any old-gen game at that) was perfect?

wait wasn't that the Madden that had the broken draft class problem and they had to send out replacement disc to people? or was that 2003.

if they had a way to patch it, they would have. games have been getting patches for a very long time on PC. so are PC developers all lazy?

it's nearly impossible to make a game that is bug free(I've yet to play a modern video game that was perfect). patches allow developers to correct mistakes/error/glitches/bugs.

# 118 bkrich83 @ 10/10/09 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tick32


	Ok i just went through about 10 pages reading wat every1 has been saying. I feel that we shouldnt have to w8 for a patch. I remember back in 2003 when i got madden 04 it was a perfect game no problems along with 06 (last gen). The dev are using patches as a way of being lazy. then when they come out the game still has issues. Also i dont believe they need to take a year off. ur supposed to build on ur last product and fix problems, but EA keeps shipping the same flaws every year and then some. Without comp. They're just gonna do what they want to do becuz we hav to buy there games if we want NFL players and teams. So all we can do is pray

Wow. Can't even put in to words..

# 119 Wolverine3 @ 10/10/09 07:11 PM

Okay well I didn't want to waste time reading everybody's opinions because I got to go to work in 15 minutes but heres what I think. Have a developing team sit down right now and start working on Madden NFL 12. Don't worry about the rosters yet because those are going to change. Don't focus all of your energy on Madden NFL 12 but start coming up with ideas and try to make them "glitch free" (glitches are inevitable, but some are fixable). But remember to try to make Madden NFL 11 be a good game too. Then, when 2011 comes out, we will already have the cornerstone for Madden NFL 12. Giving us more time to make the game better and fix those annoying bugs.

But now I'm going to address the issue... the patches. EA Sports works on Madden for approximately 11 months of the year. There's no way to make the game perfect. Most games take 2-3 years to make. Eg) Call of Duty (one game comes out each year but Treyarch and Infinity Ward alternate each year on the development), Halo, Gears of War, and most other popular games. So would you rather play a crappy under-developed game for 6 months (time the NFL plays) or a corrected version for 3 months? I think that the patches are a great deal for everybody. And what about the roster updates? Would you rather just play with the default Madden Rosters and the default game play? No, you want the best stuff around.

I hope this opened the eyes of some of you complainers out there. And if you hate the patches so much, don't play madden.

# 120 Sauk @ 10/10/09 11:42 PM

it would really be nice to be able to play the game in franchise mode. I haven't touched it since it came out...

Sad that I have to wait 3 months or more before I can actually play the game it was intended to be played

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