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Madden NFL 10 Patch #2 Details Coming Next Week

09:27 PM - October 8, 2009 by Steve_OS

According to Ian, patch #2 details for Madden NFL 10 will be announced next week.

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	"We are wrapping up the 2nd title update for Madden 10 - lots of good improvements, additions, fixes. Look for a list of stuff next week."

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# 21 Kalon @ 10/09/09 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by matt8204


	Fair point. I think the difference with sports games (especially Madden or NCAA) is that the issues are more time-sensitive. Think about it; if GTA needed a patch it's not big deal because the next GTA game probably won't come out for another 2-3 years minimum. No big deal waiting 5-6 weeks. But if you make football fans wait that long, you're looking at a third of the season or more that's gone by. This year's game is probably only relevant until the end of the season. I don't know too many people who will buy Madden after the Super Bowl if they haven't purchased it by then. Sports gamers like to have a representation of their sport in video game form during the season in which the sport is actually being played in real life. I know that my desire to play the latest NHL drops off a bit once the Stanley Cup Finals are over.

Yup that happens with all sports games I got rid of the show 09 tuesday...2010 will be out in 5 months...when i will get rid of madden 10...and I will have nba 2k10 till madden 11 and so on and so forth.

# 22 SeventhWard @ 10/09/09 02:22 AM

Every thread on OS is hilarious after three Heinekens.

-SeventhWard

# 23 knowledge24 @ 10/09/09 03:00 AM

I personally could not care less about aesthetic fixes (missing unis, cutscenes, etc.) with this upcoming patch. I am hoping the upcoming patch deals with gameplay related issues only. Oh, and hopefully it arrives sometime before the end of the year.

# 24 Meast21Forever @ 10/09/09 04:28 AM

i wonder if ea has ever considered releasing a beta. the game goes gold so frickin early. if they just let us, the community, test it, i'm sure it'd improve the game ten fold by the time the game comes out. but hey, at least all the m10 problems will be fixed by m11. haha, well, maybe not.

# 25 xrams @ 10/09/09 06:13 AM

Preface: I not trying to start crap...
It's been a staple of this forum not to speak/post about a game you don't have/played... I have this game and basically feel you shouldn't sell a product not complete.... it may hurt your sales...

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Originally Posted by hatisback


	Id rather receive patches that fix the game instead of receiving none. People need to stop being so negative and appreciate the work. I mean, they have every right to leave it how it is. I don't care what people say, Madden on last gen had so many problems. Just some off the top of my head: Madden 2004- CPU Quarterback sucked and couldn't complete passes to save their lives. Madden 2005- No pass interference calls and wacky franchise stats + the CPU never ran the ball (pre Manifesto). Madden 2006- Punt returns were out of the question. But yet, people still praise those games as the best ever.

however, to your point... the basic issue with EA/Madden is it's the ONLY game in town... that's why it gets soooo much grief, I can't play another NFL (video) game... I'm stuck with MADDEN.... after 8yrs. of EA boycott I finally bought a (used) copy of madden.. folks that wonder why peeps post such neg threads need to realize there is no other (NFL gaming) options.... to that end any corp. that garners a whole niche market blocking all comp.. by rule sets themselves up for CRITICISM..... especially a beloved sport like football....

# 26 swivel63 @ 10/09/09 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ZoneKIller


	Additions? Gosh I hope they add a feature that lets us change teams mid-Franchise!

and i hope i don't have to quit my franchise to do it.

# 27 swivel63 @ 10/09/09 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by hatisback


	Madden 2005- the CPU never ran the ball

dang, this is the complete opposite for me. they never passed the ball, lol. how you lead the league with 3500 yards passing? SMH.

# 28 ExtremeGamer @ 10/09/09 08:33 AM

We are truly in a terrible gaming climate when dev's are hyping news on a patch. Seriously, if you have the patch details, release them, it's not like it's details on a new, secret game.

Very disappointing.

# 29 TeamBuilder @ 10/09/09 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ExtremeGamer


	We are truly in a terrible gaming climate when dev's are hyping news on a patch. Seriously, if you have the patch details, release them, it's not like it's details on a new, secret game. Very disappointing.

Well said, but I think they do that to cover their own backs. If they release the details and something they said they would fix isn't fixed, there would be a huge uproar.

# 30 JMD @ 10/09/09 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Meast21Forever


	i wonder if ea has ever considered releasing a beta. the game goes gold so frickin early. if they just let us, the community, test it, i'm sure it'd improve the game ten fold by the time the game comes out. but hey, at least all the m10 problems will be fixed by m11. haha, well, maybe not.

My opinion: they do release a beta, Madden 06 was the beta for 07, 07 was the beta for 08, 08 was the beta for 09, 09 was the beta for 10, and now 10 is the beta for 11. It will go on forever.

I've said it a million times. EA only has one goal, to make money. I certainly have no problem with a company making money, however if EA were not just money hungry and they actually wanted to put out the best product possible, they would take the time to do so. Maybe skip a year and just release roster updates so they can get the game right, but it will never happen, Why? They don't have to. If millions of people still bought your product year after year no matter what , you would have no reason to take the time needed to get the game right. You would release a sub par game every year, then toss out a couple patches to try and get the game to play as it should out of the box and take in millions in profit and laugh all the way to the bank.

Madden Football a never ending cycle of fixing what is broken.
What year do you think it will be when we buy a Madden game, take it home, play it, and it actually plays like a real game of football right out of the box? I'm betting it won't happen in my lifetime, yeah I'm old.

Out.

# 31 JMD @ 10/09/09 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by QB1


	As frustrating as the game release / feedback / patch update process is, remember, EA doesn't have to do anything. After all, they could say, here's the game, it's $60, its your CHOICE to buy it or not, any issues that come up will be dealt with in 2011. I get just as frustrated as the next guy with the glaring gameplay issues that have been in the game since Moses parted the Red Sea. But again, at least Ian and his counterparts listen to the feedback we give them and are acting on it now. Some of you guys act like such spoiled babies that its really pathetic to hear you cry like you do. Go outside or get a job.

So let's say you go out and buy a nice new HDTV. You get it home and only half of the screen has a picture and the other half is black. I guess you would be fine with that? You wouldn't mind waiting a couple months for a fix? Or would you expect the product to work correctly , and if not you would return it for a full refund?

I'm glad we are getting patches to fix the game. My beef is, the game should not need the patches in the first place.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Bottom line.

# 32 countryboy @ 10/09/09 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JMD


	So let's say you go out and buy a nice new HDTV. You get it home and only half of the screen has a picture and the other half is black. I guess you would be fine with that? You wouldn't mind waiting a couple months for a fix? Or would you expect the product to work correctly , and if not you would return it for a full refund? I'm glad we are getting patches to fix the game. My beef is, the game should not need the patches in the first place. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Bottom line.

If you feel your game is broken then why not return it to where you bought it from and get your money back?

If you're TV was broken, wouldn't you return it to the place you bought it to get your money back?

And you don't feel that this game should need patches. So do you feel the same about other titles that receive patches, that they shouldn't "need" them?

# 33 MAHAM @ 10/09/09 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by countryboy


	If you feel your game is broken then why not return it to where you bought it from and get your money back? If you're TV was broken, wouldn't you return it to the place you bought it to get your money back? And you don't feel that this game should need patches. So do you feel the same about other titles that receive patches, that they shouldn't "need" them?

You can return a TV. Once you open a video game I dont think you can return it.

# 34 countryboy @ 10/09/09 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHAM


	You can return a TV. Once you open a video game I dont think you can return it.

if you feel its "broken" you can. I mean, why couldn't you?

Take the game to the store, tell them that its not working properly and that you would like to return it.

# 35 Ian_Cummings @ 10/09/09 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ExtremeGamer


	We are truly in a terrible gaming climate when dev's are hyping news on a patch. Seriously, if you have the patch details, release them, it's not like it's details on a new, secret game. Very disappointing.

We don't have the patch details, because it's not approved. I choose to not talk about anything until I see it in the game with my own eyes. There are numerous things that I think are going in that might not due to the deadline, and if that happens I end up being the goat. Not gonna happen.

And keeping the community in the loop on a rough timeline is now "hyping"?

Confused.

# 36 Random Hero @ 10/09/09 10:24 AM

It seems I'm in the minority, or it might just be all of the Madden hate on here, but I'm having fun with Madden RIGHT NOW. A patch will be cool, if it fixes stuff but at this point I don't really mind at all.

# 37 ComfortablyLomb @ 10/09/09 10:41 AM

Patches are the greatest thing to ever happen to console games. The only negative is a delay in how long it takes to get the "finished" product. I think you anti-patch people don't know how good it is these days.

# 38 Trevytrev11 @ 10/09/09 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian_Cummings_EA


	We don't have the patch details, because it's not approved. I choose to not talk about anything until I see it in the game with my own eyes. There are numerous things that I think are going in that might not due to the deadline, and if that happens I end up being the goat. Not gonna happen. And keeping the community in the loop on a rough timeline is now "hyping"? Confused.

I think it's just the annoucement of a future annoucement thing. From my experience it's just something everyone does. Today we are announcing that next week we will annouce this or that. Or stay tuned for a big annoucement regarding this game.

Whether it's hype or not, I guess only because your current annoucement is making people wait in anticipation for what will be announced in the second annoucement, which I guess is hype; providing people with something that will make them hold on to their seats in anticipation of something else.

I guess the only way to avoid this is to just 100% wait until you are ready to release the data before mentioning anything at all, but then you risk people insinuating that you are MIA and leaving us with out info...so it's basically a lose - lose situation for you. Not very fair and I feel your pain.

However, you say there are numerous things that you think will make it in, but could fall off at the last instant if they run out of time...what about the things you are 100% sure about, can you divulge any ot that? Of course, if you let out one thing, you will receive 100 questions on every other thing and people will insinuate that since you didn't mention something it's not in.

Finally, and maybe I'm just ignorant on the subject, which I probably am, but if things are so close that they may or may not make it because of the deadline, can't you just push the deadline back a little to make them fit? I would think everyone would be OK with waiting an extra few days if they knew it was going to be better? Obviously if it's several weeks or months, that is one thign, but from what I took from your statement, it seems like somethings are very close or so close that they could hit or miss the deadline.

# 39 dolfanfrank @ 10/09/09 10:49 AM

Just as EA has a right to develope the game in the manor the chose people who "buy" or simply play the game have a right to critique the game.

I also agree that the product wont change until sales is effected bottom line.

Now the real question is based on sales the game is fine...business is about numbers and the numbers say the game is good.

As for die hard fans of football who play madden at this point because its the only game in town, well the choice is quite or except IMO there are to many people buying the game that dont really appreciate football(the small detail of physics or actual AI ) for many buying the game they are content getting an NFL liscense game that has their favorite team along with somewhat cool graphics and online play and so forth.

The pure simulator the gammer who wants have a sim experience is now I feel the minority consumer and thus when EA dev. Madden they sim experience isnt the focus....oh sure thats perhaps why whe have a broken slider system so Madden can attempt to offer a 2 in 1 game arcade to the majority consumer and with the sliders,speed threshold, game speed and so on they offer an oppurtunity to adjust and set the game for those looking for a sim game.

As we know it doesnt work, so the reality is except or reject...ofcourse the dark horse is the excuslive NFL liscense being removed but I think thats a happy marrige and wouldnt count on that.

I have become so frustrated that I am to the point where I very rarely play the game I will have a fun qrt and by the end of the game disappointed with all the crappy play and high scores and so forth, plus getting older and realizing that I have a right to expect more for what I pay for.

Good luck thanks

# 40 MAHAM @ 10/09/09 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by countryboy


	if you feel its "broken" you can. I mean, why couldn't you? Take the game to the store, tell them that its not working properly and that you would like to return it.

It used to be that way. Now that all games are on disc, most places dont give a refund. I had a game once that didn't load when I bought it and the only option was to return it for the same game. I think most store policies are like that now.

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