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Madden NFL 10 Patch #1 Available, Post Impressions Here

05:53 AM - September 24, 2009 by Steve_OS

Patch #1 for Madden NFL 10 is now available for the PS3 and Xbox 360. Please post your impressions here.

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	"What's in the first title update: Added Super Bowl and Playoff Field conditions for Online Franchise Fixed False Start Grieving issues with Online games Fixed video player issue where video would hang on latent connections Improved uploaded highlight quality Switched ranked online games to 7 min Q's Fixed random stability issues Added Broadcast Cam! Gameplay Specific fixes: Tuned slider effectiveness (Run blocking and broken tackles esp.) Changes run blocking slider to not effect special teams Made fatigue effect ratings more Fixed WR release to where receivers release to both sides Fixed incorrect spotting on punts out of bounds Reduced/removed holding on kicking plays Improved toe drag catch logic Improved pursuit angles for outside running plays Fixed defenders in pursuit running away from O-Line Better play recognition in man coverage Fixed double pass online exploit"

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# 181 MAzing87 @ 09/24/09 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mems1224


	are you serious??? wow, i f'ing hate that. especially when they all out blitz when you come out in a 3 or 4 receiver set, so stupid. good job EA.

Did you try this yourself? Don't get sarcastic if you haven't.

# 182 SportsFan1988 @ 09/24/09 02:48 PM

loving the patch so far ea did a good job but one thing i thought would get fixed didnt. Live Weather for offline play is still messed up,man hopefully they fix that with the next patch.

# 183 SoxFan01605 @ 09/24/09 02:52 PM

Well, a few things...

1. I guess it's been pretty much confirmed that the Vick/Favre stats update through the AFL DLC and NOT the patch? Same happened for me. No update prior to DLC and then I checked after it and bingo, there they are. Kind of screwed up IMO, and something I hope they adjust (for those not wanting to pay for the content...they should still get correct career stats).

That said, I really dig the AFL style. I played with the Cowboys against the Oilers. The whole presentation is done quite well. My only gripe is that it would have been nice to have some specific commentary and cutscenes to go with the presentation...at times it's an odd mix.

2. Broadcast Cam. I was one who was greatly looking forward to this. It's a nice attempt, but it's near unuseable as a gameplay view. It looks great and the running and front line defense is awesome from this view (I actually register more pressure as I can see lanes open on both sides of the ball better).

The problem is on special teams and passing plays (again, on both sides of the ball) the camera doesn't pan out enough to see down the field properly. It makes deep balls and kick return/coverage a guessing game, which is unfortunate. I really hope they tweak it next year (YIKES, I made a "hopefully next year" comment!) and make it more dynamic so it pans in and out appropriately. Also, a zoom slider of sorts would be nice so I can start from closer in if I want.

Overall, it looks very much like a last second effort to squeeze in the view. Better than nothing and probably still a boon for CPU vs CPU games, but disappointing as a gameplay view nontheless.

3. Running seems more fluid overall and it's much more fun for me. I really dig running from the broadcast view as I said, but even without that, there's a definite improvement. Defenses do indeed cover the outside better which makes speedy runnners feel like less of a cheap use over power runners (I finally feel a better balance between MB3 and Felix Jones).

4. I too (like others have mentioned) have seen new sideline cutscenes and a better attempt to stay inbounds on the sideline. It's a welcome addition. I still haven't seen any "true" sideline catches per se, but I doubt there was much they could do in a patch in that regard.

5. Man coverage seems better overall, but there are still those weird instances of warping to get into position (which probably wasn't part of what was addressed). I really wish it was more fluid in that sense, but the improvement is noticeable and welcome.

6. Haven't seen any instances of the defenders randomly turning completely the wrong way yet, so that's good.

As for the other fixes, I haven't played with sliders yet, so we'll see. Ironically, one of the key fixes in this (the holding calls on FGs) never plagued me pre-patch...lol...so I have no idea if it's different. For what it's worth, I haven't had any post-patch either though. Overall, good stuff. Seems to work pretty much as advertised.

My only gripes overall (not necessarily patch-specific) are that the Vick/Favre stats don't appear to be linked to the patch itself, the broadcast camera is a very basic attempt, and that I still have to wait for the other patch before I can really dive into this game. IF that patch works as advertised too, then I'll likely end up purchasing the game outright (still toying with a rental copy).

It's certainly one of the more entertaining Madden's I've played in awhile, despite it's obvious flaws. And if the franchise fixes and some of the bigger gameplay fixes slated for patch #2 are added, I could see myself putting some time in.

# 184 Old's Cool @ 09/24/09 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by countryboy


	the brown filter is annoying when playing the game in AFL legacy mode.

Yeah I agree. Is there anyway to get rid of it?

# 185 DGuinta1 @ 09/24/09 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SoxFan01605


	Well, a few things... 1. I guess it's been pretty much confirmed that the Vick/Favre stats update through the AFL DLC and NOT the patch? Same happened for me. No update prior to DLC and then I checked after it and bingo, there they are. Kind of screwed up IMO, and something I hope they adjust (for those not wanting to pay for the content...they should still get correct career stats). That said, I really dig the AFL style. I played with the Cowboys against the Oilers. The whole presentation is done quite well. My only gripe is that it would have been nice to have some specific commentary and cutscenes to go with the presentation...at times it's an odd mix. 2. Broadcast Cam. I was one who was greatly looking forward to this. It's a nice attempt, but it's near unuseable as a gameplay view. It looks great and the running and front line defense is awesome from this view (I actually register more pressure as I can see lanes open on both sides of the ball better). The problem is on special teams and passing plays (again, on both sides of the ball) the camera doesn't pan out enough to see down the field properly. It makes deep balls and kick return/coverage a guessing game, which is unfortunate. I really hope they tweak it next year (YIKES, I made a "hopefully next year" comment!) and make it more dynamic so it pans in and out appropriately. Also, a zoom slider of sorts would be nice so I can start from closer in if I want. Overall, it looks very much like a last second effort to squeeze in the view. Better than nothing and probably still a boon for CPU vs CPU games, but disappointing as a gameplay view nontheless. 3. Running seems more fluid overall and it's much more fun for me. I really dig running from the broadcast view as I said, but even without that, there's a definite improvement. Defenses do indeed cover the outside better which makes speedy runnners feel like less of a cheap use over power runners (I finally feel a better balance between MB3 and Felix Jones). 4. I too (like others have mentioned) have seen new sideline cutscenes and a better attempt to stay inbounds on the sideline. It's a welcome addition. I still haven't seen any "true" sideline catches per se, but I doubt there was much they could do in a patch in that regard. 5. Man coverage seems better overall, but there are still those weird instances of warping to get into position (which probably wasn't part of what was addressed). I really wish it was more fluid in that sense, but the improvement is noticeable and welcome. 6. Haven't seen any instances of the defenders randomly turning completely the wrong way yet, so that's good. As for the other fixes, I haven't played with sliders yet, so we'll see. Ironically, one of the key fixes in this (the holding calls on FGs) never plagued me pre-patch...lol...so I have no idea if it's different. For what it's worth, I haven't had any post-patch either though. Overall, good stuff. Seems to work pretty much as advertised. My only gripes overall (not necessarily patch-specific) are that the Vick/Favre stats don't appear to be linked to the patch itself, the broadcast camera is a very basic attempt, and that I still have to wait for the other patch before I can really dive into this game. IF that patch works as advertised too, then I'll likely end up purchasing the game outright (still toying with a rental copy). It's certainly one of the more entertaining Madden's I've played in awhile, despite it's obvious flaws. And if the franchise fixes and some of the bigger gameplay fixes slated for patch #2 are added, I could see myself putting some time in.

Thank you for your solid impression. (even if you are a Sox fan

) I look forward to what you and CB have to say.

# 186 Meazza @ 09/24/09 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Old's Cool


	Yeah I agree. Is there anyway to get rid of it?

i don't think you can in exhibition games, but during season mode (Legacy games) the color is normal but it still uses the new presentation and unis, which looks very nice.

# 187 Speedy @ 09/24/09 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by countryboy


	The fatigue is the most notable thing for me, as I ran the ball down the Lions throats and watched as their players labored to fight off blocks, make sound tackles, and keep up with receivers on PA passes. On defense, I had to rotate d-lineman more than before due to them getting fatigue. This may be the most welcomed addition via the patch for me.

Is the offensive fatigue still an issue, CB? At the end of the game, does the WRs, HBs, etc. disappear?

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Originally Posted by LBzrule


	WR Release as they said - also some DB's get roasted now if you press them and they get beat on streaks or fades with only a single Safety or cover 0

Is the CPU throwing the ball deep more or still throwing a lot in the middle of the field about 5-10 yds. deep?

# 188 Old's Cool @ 09/24/09 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dave374


	Yes. Pre-game ... when you're picking your uniforms and what-not, there's an option called "AFL effects". Just turn it off. The brown screen is turned off, everything else stays - the stat overlays, uniforms, fields, etc...

Very good to hear. Thanks.

# 189 Palo20 @ 09/24/09 03:01 PM

I have a pre-existing franchise, and loaded it up to play the week 1 game between the Bills and Pats. They automatically put the AFL uniforms and logos at the Franchise screen which is cool.

The only problem is that the game froze in the 1st quarter while I was looking at a replay. Not cool.

# 190 LBzrule @ 09/24/09 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by WakeUnc2321


	Is the offensive fatigue still an issue, CB? At the end of the game, does the WRs, HBs, etc. disappear? Is the CPU throwing the ball deep more or still throwing a lot in the middle of the field about 5-10 yds. deep?

Keep in mind all of my comments were observations from practice mode, all-madden and I don't mess with sliders.

# 191 Speedy @ 09/24/09 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LBzrule


	Keep in mind all of my comments were observations from practice mode, all-madden and I don't mess with sliders.

I'm aware.

# 192 sportyguyfl31 @ 09/24/09 03:16 PM

Anyone notice a difference in hook zone, LB zone recognition/responsivness on routes over the middle?

Was that addressed at all, is that coming in a 2nd patch? or do we just have to hold our nose and tolerate it for this year.

# 193 SoxFan01605 @ 09/24/09 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DGuinta1


	Thank you for your solid impression. (even if you are a Sox fan ) I look forward to what you and CB have to say.

lol...thanks

Actually CB made a good point that I forgot to mention-fatigue. DEFINITELY more noticeable.

Also, I've gotten more separation on some deep balls. I thought it was placebo at first, but I suppose this is likely due to the WR release issue that was fixed...which until I saw LBzrule mention it, I forgot it was in the patch! Should definitely add a better risk/reward to press coverages (which might have been too effective prior to the patch).

# 194 SoxFan01605 @ 09/24/09 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sportyguyfl31


	Anyone notice a difference in hook zone, LB zone recognition/responsivness on routes over the middle? Was that addressed at all, is that coming in a 2nd patch? or do we just have to hold our nose and tolerate it for this year.

None that I've noticed. LBs still seem to have plenty of brain-dead moments in coverage overall, I'm afraid.

# 195 FunkDockta27 @ 09/24/09 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by COMMISSIONERHBK9


	have you guys notice you can hear the crowd now and the replays dont cut anymore. good job on the patch guys. now wait for the roster update and franchise here we come

my replays still randomly cut...i dont know why? maybe you guys know something I dont? I went after my game against the 9ers with the Bengals, and went to save a sweeeeeet playaction pass to Ocho in the endzone. Nope got cut after the ball was almost to Ocho's hands...i was hopin that'd be fixed...no biggie was just hopin tho

# 196 FunkDockta27 @ 09/24/09 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SA1NT401


	On the default helmets, at least for me and celg35, there were these hideous blue squares where the numbers should be on the back

I saw it on the ravens too...they have white #s on the back of their helmets, but instead you got these big white squares instead

# 197 SoxFan01605 @ 09/24/09 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FunkDockta27


	I saw it on the ravens too...they have white #s on the back of their helmets, but instead you got these big white squares instead

I don't usually play with either of those teams, but I checked on it. I can confirm that there are blocks where the numbers should be for both those teams.

# 198 CSL @ 09/24/09 03:30 PM

Only on the home unis for the Patriots, road's are ok:

# 199 countryboy @ 09/24/09 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DakkoN


	The reason for that is because the super sim doesn't account for accelerated clock. It'll run a whole 12 minutes of plays instead of 12 minutes + 20 second accelerated clock or whatever you use.. It's crazy.

yeah, but even at 10 minutes or 9 minutes, the games are ridiculously offensive oriented. Most games I supersim end up like college games, with scores in the 30's, 40's, and 50's.

The reason I ask is because supersimming is a way of getting accurate franchise stats until the patch comes out, but unforunately the stats become a little outrageous due to the game being offensive oriented.

# 200 LBzrule @ 09/24/09 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sportyguyfl31


	Anyone notice a difference in hook zone, LB zone recognition/responsivness on routes over the middle? Was that addressed at all, is that coming in a 2nd patch? or do we just have to hold our nose and tolerate it for this year.

Hopefully in the 2nd patch. Still dropping deep in their hook zones as of now.

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