12:34 PM - September 10, 2009 by Pared
For those of you that can grab the FIFA Soccer 10 demo, please post your impressions here.
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12:34 PM - September 10, 2009 by ParedFIFA Soccer 10 Videos
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# 141
Hunkerdown @ 09/18/09 11:39 PM
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I don't see how they will change it, certainly not before release. It has been the same since they moved over to the current gen systems.
I am going to try real hard to get back into the demo, but I have a hard time playing before getting bored as I can't do another year of this same fatal flaw. I doubt tactics will do anything as they didn't do much if anything at all last year. The game seems programmed to be a super speed spaz fest which is a shame. A teaser back pass here or there, but right after that slam on the gas and go forward as fast as you can time.
There will be no way to change tactics in MM once you start. I assume there will still be 28 slots so that is another epic fail they probably are not even aware of. So you can fix one and a half leagues if the tactics even work as they should.
This game does alot right, but just as much wrong. Both games have gaping holes in them. Might just be FM time, or else back to PES on the PC if I can even get it to work. Sad, I will give it an honest effort though.
I am going to try real hard to get back into the demo, but I have a hard time playing before getting bored as I can't do another year of this same fatal flaw. I doubt tactics will do anything as they didn't do much if anything at all last year. The game seems programmed to be a super speed spaz fest which is a shame. A teaser back pass here or there, but right after that slam on the gas and go forward as fast as you can time.
There will be no way to change tactics in MM once you start. I assume there will still be 28 slots so that is another epic fail they probably are not even aware of. So you can fix one and a half leagues if the tactics even work as they should.
This game does alot right, but just as much wrong. Both games have gaping holes in them. Might just be FM time, or else back to PES on the PC if I can even get it to work. Sad, I will give it an honest effort though.
When you play against another human opponent, most play in all-out attack mode anyway. Seriously, when you play against another person, are you passing the ball along the backline?
I had a really good time with the game. Can't wait for the retail version.
# 146
Hunkerdown @ 09/19/09 11:36 AM
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You can play it as you like, but I have an issue with playing that way, hence my issue with the game in general.
Just some general comments. I would love to play tactical football, but this game doesn't allow that against the CPU anyways as the pitch scale is way too small and its flies on **** mentality so you have no space with the ball at all. Another major flaw that in no way accurately represents the sport. It is a big reason for the back and forth pinball play. You can get up and down the pitch like nothing, no way that should be possible.
I don't want to be a bad guy, that always comes in here and complains. I try to have intelligent discussions without trolling. I want this to be the best game out there, they just seem to have little clue in how to represent the sport. Harsh perhaps, but what else am I suppose to think after three years of this? They must have spent all of their time on animations which are amazing and top notch, but big deal if the gameplay is awful.
One last point, and this will touch on another fatal flaw. Just got home from the gym and look at the scores. Arsenal trashing Wigan 4-0. Who scored Arsenal's first two goals? Vermaelen who can play on the wing, but usually is central in defense. The odds that against the CPU a defensemen scores twice in the normal course of play as he did? Impossible, just will never happen. Almost impossible even on set plays.
Why is that? Can you imagine if in Madden if running backs could never score against you, or in NBA Live/2K if the point guard never scored against you? The outrage would be out of control. I go to the EA FIFA UK forums and never see a peep about this. I just don't get it. This game is just stale, and not organic enough. Everyone on the pitch is capable of scoring, in this game the programming negates that.
Also in that match fouls 20 for Wigan to 8 for Arsenal. Why do you think that is? If they didn't foul them like this, it would have been 6 or 7 -0. They can't keep up so they have to foul to stop momentum. I can't fully comment on fouls as of yet, but for once will it be accurate in this game?
If you have the better side, you should earn more fouls. Or will the CPU Wigan be able to just kick your *** and foul you all over the pitch and take the ball without it being called?
# 149
therizing02 @ 09/19/09 02:38 PM
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The developers post in that forum and the game, to their credit, is designed around the feedback from that Community. Again, props them for "listening", but that community seems to be more concerned with trick moves, online rankings, and highlight reel goals.
There has been a big push on the EA boards for changes/improvements to MM and the design team responded, but it's very rare that anyone ever posts anything about the lack of fouls, teams playing the same, and the fastbreak style football that plagues this game. Very frustrating.
I'm not completely down on FIFA 10 because I do notice some great things about the game. Maybe changes in CTT will help a little.
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And no football game gets the interaction between the player with the ball and the defender. The defender should not try always shoulder tackle the dribbler. Any good player would just dribble around the defender. What this does is create a game that doesn't allow for proper 1-on-1 battles.
Both things frustrate me with both games!
I agree with the part that not enough non-strikers score goals. Maybe it will be addressed with the game. Players don't leave their position enough and help in support. I think EA just needs to program "crashing" the box AI. As in any real game, you'll see AM, MF, WB crash the box when necessary. You'll even see players like Ashley Cole, take it on the wing and send in a cross. FIFA needs to work on this.
# 151
carnalnirvana @ 09/19/09 10:16 PM
unless EA fixes the user's teammates this game will continue to be garbage...
i need my team ro be able to anticipate passes and close down the man before he touches the ball, this leads to 1-2 or touch back passes where players advance or make runs. as it stands now every one has acres of space to turn and sprint to goal...
turning to face goal in the final third is VERY hard in football especially against the better teams and the cpu has a good pressing game BUT the user has to hammer B button all game to get some pressure that is stupid...
if i set my team tactic to double they should do that with out me mashing the B button, damn it EA
all i want from fifa is for two guys to press a player trapping a pass force him to play it back and recover THATS ALL THEY HAVE TO DO TO MAKE THIS GAME GREAT
BUT we all here over the years have come to know EA's slogan" if it makes sense DONT DO IT"
i need my team ro be able to anticipate passes and close down the man before he touches the ball, this leads to 1-2 or touch back passes where players advance or make runs. as it stands now every one has acres of space to turn and sprint to goal...
turning to face goal in the final third is VERY hard in football especially against the better teams and the cpu has a good pressing game BUT the user has to hammer B button all game to get some pressure that is stupid...
if i set my team tactic to double they should do that with out me mashing the B button, damn it EA
all i want from fifa is for two guys to press a player trapping a pass force him to play it back and recover THATS ALL THEY HAVE TO DO TO MAKE THIS GAME GREAT
BUT we all here over the years have come to know EA's slogan" if it makes sense DONT DO IT"
Just finished a match in the demo and lost 1-0 I was Chicago Fire vs Juventus. Had a chance to tie the game on a penalty kick in the second half but over powered the shot and missed to the left. The goalie was going to the right had i not over powered the shot would have had a tie game. The CPU had 2 yellow cards and a red card. I had 1 yellow. I have been playing FIFA since it first appeared on the Genesis and thats the first i remember the cpu getting 2 yellow cards or even 1 red in a match. I'm not sure if im going to buy the game this year or not lots of other games to play. Had a blast playing.
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Can you download the demo with a silver membership? I tried to download it earlier and it told me I had to upgrade to Gold. Does anyone know? Is there another way to get another free month of gold once you use the original month that comes with the 360?
It should be available for those with Silver memberships by now. I know, because I have the demo and I don't possess a Gold subscription.
But then again, I used my European account to download the demo, so it may not be available for American Silver accounts yet. In that case, I recommend that you create an European one.
But then again, I used my European account to download the demo, so it may not be available for American Silver accounts yet. In that case, I recommend that you create an European one.
How many people play on manual? This is the first FIFA game I'm going to get and I tried out manual but it's a little tricky to get use to. If I play online, am I gonna get crushed using assisted compared to the people who use manual?
Or if assisted is perfect everytime then what's the point of manual?
Or if assisted is perfect everytime then what's the point of manual?
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# 159
spartansocc12 @ 09/22/09 12:24 AM
This game has awful AI. It is so frustrating when all the comp does it go forward and your AI players cant defend this predictable gameplay. I understand I need to take control, but I can only be one player at a time. At some point vs the better teams it becomes a shotfest. It is not that satisfying scoring when shots come so easily. Unless I purposely hold possession, that is the only way of keeping the shot count down. The worst part is that it is very easy to hold the ball since the comp rarely holds it themselves. It is even more frustrating because this games controls are so smooth, but the AI really does ruin it for me. Does anyone else feel this way?
# 160
demencia_total @ 09/22/09 01:14 AM
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In real life, footballers have comfort zones that they like to attack and different playstyles within their clubs strategy, but this is nonexistant in the FIFA series as far as I know. You just have a bunch of sliders for the clubs that basically just determine how aggressive they are, and most are set up to play at a frenetic pace.
I wish FIFA would adopt PES' "special abilities" system that gives the players individual traits, but it doesn't seem like its going to be in this year, so we are stuck with the same generic styles as last year. I believe 08 had something like this, but it wasnt editable and I'm not sure it actually made a difference at all. It really sucks for me because I cannot stand the level of automation that PES has as far as controls, and I absolutely adore the freedom of FIFA's system, but the lack of variety between the players really kills a lot the of excitement for me.
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