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Only played 3 matches but I thought normal speed felt a lot slower than last years normal. I also think that on "semi" passing there were more erratic passes which is a good thing.
There are still times when you have no control over your back line and can't fight for the ball but I think the 360 movement helps the CPU defense out much more. No more cheesing the CPU with diagonal runs or stopping on a dime and switching angles that was so effective against the CPU last year.
I had a ton of fouls called vs me but not as much against the CPU which is good and bad. Good because last year there were matches when the CPU went all out slide tackle crazy and got 2-3 men sent off but bad if you play a more physical style of play.
Playing vs Barca it was good to see them take off Henry and bring on an extra defender (Maxwell) to preserve the 1 goal lead BUT they still played him in the same spot .
Hopefully we'll get some leagues/BAP going again like in '08
There are still times when you have no control over your back line and can't fight for the ball but I think the 360 movement helps the CPU defense out much more. No more cheesing the CPU with diagonal runs or stopping on a dime and switching angles that was so effective against the CPU last year.
I had a ton of fouls called vs me but not as much against the CPU which is good and bad. Good because last year there were matches when the CPU went all out slide tackle crazy and got 2-3 men sent off but bad if you play a more physical style of play.
Playing vs Barca it was good to see them take off Henry and bring on an extra defender (Maxwell) to preserve the 1 goal lead BUT they still played him in the same spot .
Hopefully we'll get some leagues/BAP going again like in '08
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Tomasperez9 @ 09/18/09 10:11 AM
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Maxwell seems to be the backup LW for Barca. Down a goal they may bring in Maxwell for Henry. I was under the original impression that substitution logic is better, but I may have been completely wrong. One game, the computer took off Ribery for Tymoschuk when down a goal. A DM for a AMR/L? Questionable...
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Is Maxwell's position LW in the game? I didn't check it.
In the PK shootout I had it felt like the goalie was more responsive.
Also, when I was Juve Buffon was a lot more aggresive than Cech. GG was fired up back there on big saves.
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Back in the day, I was all about PES b/c it beat out FIFA on the realism scale by a LONG shot. But today they are pretty close but FIFA has so much more to offer visually. Even the sound is better - I mean, what is up with the horrible sound that PES makes when coming into contact with the ball? Ever collide with two players and have the ball bounce in between them? When this happens it sounds like a 1980's arcade shooter game. It's just ridiculous.
Sorry - didn't mean to turn this into a PES rant. I used to love that game but I can't stand it now.
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Anyway - For me... I think the pace in PES is off a bit and the players don't seem attached to the environment. It's almost like their legs are moving but they are just sliding across a background. The ball physics and player movement all seem off to me compared to FIFA.
But I do remember the first time I played PES and thought "Holy ****! Someone finally go this game right!" But somehow along the way I feel they either lost it or FIFA caught up.
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Tomasperez9 @ 09/18/09 11:54 AM
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It's sad to realize that PES might not be the choice for me because I am a long time player, PES6 is by far the best ever created, and I still play it to relive old memories - I'm still seeing goals that I have never seen before.
PES6 = NFL2k5 - the game that you just can't put down and wish every game was based off of it.
PES10 = At the rate it's going, could be Madden 09. The worst EA football game ever created in my opinion.
As I always do in these demo's, I play a great team against the worst team, hoping to dominate them, as it should go. Well, here is an example of a shot that just didn't happen last year. Amazing to see the ball go in with force and not rise in an instant. Especially when shooting from distance.
I'm really surprised with the fouls in the game. Whereas they were few and far between in FIFA 09, they seem to be spot on in this installment. Also, all the fundamentals like shooting, passing and crossing have GREATLY improved, and the movement is brilliant. Plus, the set pieces are much better.
It doesn't even feel like I'm playing FIFA, it feels like an entirely different series.
It doesn't even feel like I'm playing FIFA, it feels like an entirely different series.
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Tomasperez9 @ 09/18/09 02:24 PM
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But PES development has all but stalled while FIFA is growing leaps and bounds.
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sportsdude @ 09/18/09 03:50 PM
played Marseille against Bayern yesterday and I liked the demo a lot. I like the control shots more, the through balls aren't as deadly and I felt the spacing was a bit better than it was last year. One thing I also really liked was that the players felt like they had bit more momentum to them, I know that's not necessarily the right word but it's all I could think of. Kind of feels like a mix between 08 and 09, and I liked that.
I'll give the PES demo a try here either later today or tomorrow. I've only got room one soccer game this year so unless the PES demo blows me away I'll be getting FIFA 10.
I'll give the PES demo a try here either later today or tomorrow. I've only got room one soccer game this year so unless the PES demo blows me away I'll be getting FIFA 10.
The way the AI players actually move the ball around as opposed to just going forward without any regard to strategy has not gone without my appreciation.
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I've been really impressed by the demo so far but I do have a large niggling concern that has already been voiced here - the CPU always plays the same way no matter which team it is. And that style of play generally consists of working it up the field as quickly as possible with passes/dribbling between the forwards and wingers and then a cross/shot from distance.
There's no semblence of build-up play from the CPU and I have very rarely seen them play a ball BACKWARDS to a player who is under less pressure. Hopefully this will be addressed by the time the game ships (or at the very least can be adjusted on a per-team basis by the tactics sliders) but I think even with this problem I'm enjoying the demo so much that FIFA 10 is a must buy for me this year
There's no semblence of build-up play from the CPU and I have very rarely seen them play a ball BACKWARDS to a player who is under less pressure. Hopefully this will be addressed by the time the game ships (or at the very least can be adjusted on a per-team basis by the tactics sliders) but I think even with this problem I'm enjoying the demo so much that FIFA 10 is a must buy for me this year
I have been seeing back passes - to the goalie especially, in FIFA for the last few years, I stopped playing FIFA 09 after a month and went back to 08, I prefer the pace of that game. My big problem has always been the camera angle, it was impossible pulling off moves/tricks using the dynamic camera angle. I could not get used to the pro view no matter how many times I tried it.
Once I tried PES 09, I never went back to FIFA. As already stated by anumber of posters, the AI in PES is excellent compared to FIFA. Have you ever watched/specatated a PES game? Its a thing of beauty to watch the CPU move the ball around the pitch. If I could get PES with the FIFA graphics and team licenses - I would probably never play any other video game.
Once I tried PES 09, I never went back to FIFA. As already stated by anumber of posters, the AI in PES is excellent compared to FIFA. Have you ever watched/specatated a PES game? Its a thing of beauty to watch the CPU move the ball around the pitch. If I could get PES with the FIFA graphics and team licenses - I would probably never play any other video game.
I've been going back and fort between FIFA 09 and FIFA 10 and the more I do this the more I appreciate 10. The game play and freedom of movements and runs are head and shoulders above 09.
So far the only thing I don't like about 10 is that I can't play a full game yet.
So far the only thing I don't like about 10 is that I can't play a full game yet.
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