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September 9, 2009 – This season marks the 50th season for the eight original American Football League (AFL) teams, and EA SPORTS is commemorating the celebration with the release of the AFL Legacy Pack game add-on for Madden NFL 10.

Available on September 24th, the comprehensive add-on brings the heritage of the AFL to Madden NFL 10 with all-new 1960’s-style presentation elements. Referees don the orange striped AFL uniforms, official AFL markings and logos decorate the field, and more – all while featuring a retro football card-like user interface and classic film grain broadcast camera.

The eight original AFL teams will be represented by name and wear their historic uniforms, including the Buffalo Bills, Denver Broncos, Kansas City Chiefs (as the Dallas Texans), New England Patriots (as the Boston Patriots), New York Jets (as the Titans of New York), Oakland Raiders, San Diego Chargers and Tennessee Titans (as the Houston Oilers).

The 15 AFL Legacy Game matchups during the 2009 NFL regular season will include the Legacy Pack presentation in the offline Franchise mode, as well as during the Play Now, and Superstar modes. Historic AFL uniforms can be selected in any mode – offline or online!

Relive some of the greatest moments in AFL history with all-new Madden Moments, which include additional Xbox 360 achievements and PS3 trophies.

The AFL Legacy Pack game add-on for Madden NFL 10 will be available on September 24th for 560 Microsoft Points and $6.99 on the PSN Store.

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# 121 ThePebble19 @ 09/08/09 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by The GIGGAS
Actually, it is. Rock Band adds on gameplay with new songs. Remember, they ship with a large amount of songs on disc, and release 3-12 songs a week. That's one way Rock Band keeps people playing the game because it doesn't get stale... new gameplay.

New maps add new strategy to a shooter, where strategies change due to new spawn points, new objectives, and new obstacles to get over or avoid on your way to get the other team.

New characters in a fighting game give you new moves to learn and either complete or defend against.

Adding uniforms to a football game is window dressing, and doesn't change how you play the game. Everything else I mentioned does.

Of course, I figured someone would say "but what about the Madden Moments". My response for the Madden Moments is that you get 5 for this pack, which, unless you love playing Madden Moments, you'll get about 20 minutes out of.
I suppose then, if that is your reasoning, what could they add in a DLC pack that would make it worth the 7 dollars? New stadiums, uniforms, even old teams...none of that really changes the gameplay.

In last year's case, for example, had they come out with the Accelerated Clock DLC, I could see how that would fall in line with your "gameplay" changing experience for this game, because it changes how the overall game is played.
 
# 122 SmashMan @ 09/08/09 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by texans
Replayability. If I d/l extra songs for RockBand or an expansion pack for, say, Midnight Club LA, then that will be a one time purchase. Sports games are different, they are released yearly. If I d/l a song in RockBand, it will work in all iterations of RockBand. Will I be asked to purchase franchise enhancers, elite status, uniforms, and other DLC for Madden 11? Probably. That's fine, we live in a capitalist economy, which gives me the option of buying it or not, which I won't. I also think now more than ever it's important to be an educated consumer. When other sports games offer this content for free, and now I'm being charged, I should ask why.
I think it'd be fair to point out that Rock Band's multi-game compatibility is the exception to DLC, and not the rule; for those that don't play.
 
# 123 The GIGGAS @ 09/08/09 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ThePebble19
I suppose then, if that is your reasoning, what could they add in a DLC pack that would make it worth the 7 dollars? New stadiums, uniforms, even old teams...none of that really changes the gameplay.

In last year's case, for example, had they come out with the Accelerated Clock DLC, I could see how that would fall in line with your "gameplay" changing experience for this game, because it changes how the overall game is played.
I wasn't suggesting what they should add or what they shouldn't. All I answered was this question:

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For all of those who are pissed that the AFL Legacy Pack cost money, let me ask you this. What is the difference between paying for this and extra map packs for games, customizable parts for driving games, extra songs for Rock Band/Guitar Hero, extra costume packs, extra characters in games, extra this and that with any game?

And please don't use the cop out line that, "well its should've been in the game already" or "I already paid X amount of dollars for this game", because those two lines could be used for any and all games that offer DLC.

So go ahead, please enlighten me and the rest of the community with why what EA/Madden is doing is any different than what any other company that offers DLC is doing.

I'm not totally against this pack... in fact, if they did something for the Jaguars, I'd buy it without a doubt. But since my team doesn't have anything to do with the AFL, I'm not going to.

As for the question you asked, I don't know. I'm not a marketing person or project manager that's paid to dream up these great gameplay additions.
 
# 124 SportsTop @ 09/08/09 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by The GIGGAS
Actually, it is. Rock Band adds on gameplay with new songs. Remember, they ship with a large amount of songs on disc, and release 3-12 songs a week. That's one way Rock Band keeps people playing the game because it doesn't get stale... new gameplay.

New maps add new strategy to a shooter, where strategies change due to new spawn points, new objectives, and new obstacles to get over or avoid on your way to get the other team.

New characters in a fighting game give you new moves to learn and either complete or defend against.

Adding uniforms to a football game is window dressing, and doesn't change how you play the game. Everything else I mentioned does.

Of course, I figured someone would say "but what about the Madden Moments". My response for the Madden Moments is that you get 5 for this pack, which, unless you love playing Madden Moments, you'll get about 20 minutes out of.
Then I would argue that new tracks in Rock Band does not add new gameplay. It's just a new song that requires button mashing in a different sequence.

Maps can be viewed as just cosmetic as well as they don't truly effect the actual gameplay.

Again, football, by it's nature, offers new gameplay each time you press reset.
 
# 125 The GIGGAS @ 09/08/09 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Squint
Then I would argue that new tracks in Rock Band does not add new gameplay. It's just a new song that requires button mashing in a different sequence.

Maps can be viewed as just cosmetic as well as they don't truly effect the actual gameplay.

Again, football, by it's nature, offers new gameplay each time you press reset.
Alright, we'll agree to disagree here, Squint.
 
# 126 ThePebble19 @ 09/08/09 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by The GIGGAS
I wasn't suggesting what they should add or what they shouldn't. All I answered was this question:



I'm not totally against this pack... in fact, if they did something for the Jaguars, I'd buy it without a doubt. But since my team doesn't have anything to do with the AFL, I'm not going to.
Fair enough. I think that what another poster said earlier is true too though, Rock band/GH are kind of the exception to the rule on DLC.

I am with you though...I will buy it because it affects my team. Otherwise I would probably think about it, but wouldn't be outraged because it costs money.

Another thought though(and this is not directed at you, Giggas)...It almost seems like it's a two headed monster with a lot of posters...When something is wrong, they call for it to be fixed. If it's fixed but it puts them out in any way (restart franchise, DLC $$$, etc.), then it's an outrage. If it's not fixed, it's an outrage, because EA just wants more of our money next year.

I'm just happy they appear to be working on things. Regardless of how this works out in the coming months, we are seeing things around here with developer interaction that can do nothing but make this series(and the rest of the series') better from here on out.

For me, I buy 4 games a year...Baseball, Football x2, and Hockey. That money is already spent every year, without thinking twice...and I play the crap out of the games. Any extra content or things they want to throw at me I will consider...but I consider them based on the situation, and don't add the "I blew 60 bucks on a game that should have this already!" line in it. It's a few bucks, and I can live with that.
 
# 127 thegenerel @ 09/08/09 07:00 PM
its too bad we have to pay for it, but dang, it looks sweet!

i dont play with AFL teams really but i think the throwback presentation looks really cool!
 
# 128 marcoyk @ 09/08/09 07:00 PM
Wow! That's awesome! And I'm stunned that this hasn't been leaked on here or rumored.
 
# 129 SeventhWard @ 09/08/09 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by gilgamesh348
I will not be buying this because I work part time minimum wage. I must use my income to pay my health insurance premium that increases $20 every year.
Now THAT'S real.


-SeventhWard
 
# 130 RhodyRockstar @ 09/08/09 07:16 PM
Totally can't wait for this. As a Patriots fan I am looking forward to the uniforms and presentation. Good stuff. Don't mind paying for it cuz it's only a few bucks.
 
# 131 GHUGHES @ 09/08/09 07:16 PM
Just a matter of time before we have to pay for game play patches. ridiculous charging us for things that should be free.
 
# 132 franch1se @ 09/08/09 07:24 PM
I just want the jerseys and stuff. The presentations are nice but i REALLY don't want to play an entire game in Sepia, i hope their is an option to turn that off.
 
# 133 CubFan23 @ 09/08/09 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by gilgamesh348
I will not be buying this because I work part time minimum wage. I must use my income to pay my health insurance premium that increases $20 every year.
But you found a way to shell out $60.00 for the game, oh let me guess, someone bought it for you. I don't mean to bash but I am tired of people coming on the internet crying poor but find enough cash to shell out $$ for video games not to mention the systems to play them. Skip a few cups of coffee at dunkin dounuts, $7 will not break anyone.
 
# 134 CubFan23 @ 09/08/09 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RhodyRockstar
Totally can't wait for this. As a Patriots fan I am looking forward to the uniforms and presentation. Good stuff. Don't mind paying for it cuz it's only a few bucks.
Love the old Pats uni's!
 
# 135 LionsFanNJ @ 09/08/09 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by GHUGHES
Just a matter of time before we have to pay for game play patches. ridiculous charging us for things that should be free.
yah because EA is the only company that does it.
 
# 136 TheDutchDad @ 09/08/09 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by CubFan23
But you found a way to shell out $60.00 for the game, oh let me guess, someone bought it for you. I don't mean to bash but I am tired of people coming on the internet crying poor but find enough cash to shell out $$ for video games not to mention the systems to play them. Skip a few cups of coffee at dunkin dounuts, $7 will not break anyone.
LOL coming from a guy with that EA quote? This place is a riot now.
 
# 137 ThePebble19 @ 09/08/09 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ityaboy56
For real though? Maybe somebody did give it to him. Or bought it for him. He might have gotten the system for christmas, his birthday, graduation gift, who knows. But your reply was pointless. He was just being real. He's concerned more with his health insurance than some dumb DLC. Whats wrong with that?
Noone is debating the value that he has in his insurance. I don't think that anyone that could ever debate the value in that. All the replying poster is saying is that someone who values the dollar that much that his insurance premiums are keeping him from purchasing DLC, should probably look at the money that he may or may not be spending on video game systems/games. It probably just wasn't said as tactfully as it should have been.
 
# 138 sportskid84 @ 09/08/09 07:56 PM
wonderful but where in the hell is the broadcast camera?
 
# 139 ThePebble19 @ 09/08/09 07:57 PM
The tough part about the direction that this thread has gone in is that it looks horrible. There have been some rotten posts in here...

Threads like this one don't make DLC free. Threads like this are what make developers reconsider DLC altogether.
 
# 140 Fu Man Ching @ 09/08/09 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnDoe8865
Good Lord guys, does EVERY conversation have to turn into a 2K vs EA war??
Has nothing to do with 2k. It is just a simple fact that they got throwbacks right and also had the symbols on the field. Only reason it was brought up.

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Originally Posted by granddogg
No 2k would not charge you for these unis they just charge you to create a player and run him around a then charge you full price for the game if you want to use him!!!! You see both companys do it you just happen to hate EA ...... NBA210 draft drill
Heard about that. This isn't company vs company debate though. It more of a people vs the big wigs. That is why I asked if EA was doing yard sales or selling old Ea stuff on EA to get money too. Are they broke? This just seems like it would be a good chance to show their fans they are loyal to them and are doing all they can. The fact that they are not even on this site talking with us anymore is BS. They have slowly turned their backs at the most convenient times. IT has happened before. I have bought all these crappy games on next gen. Yes this years is playable but this what I expected the first year on next gen. I have learned my lesson and will not buy the Madden on the next gen until it reaches an acceptable level. I bought Madden since it was SNES the first year and have been a fan forever and a lot us still feel slighted.
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Originally Posted by texans
Just from reading the thread it seems like EA's timing is off here. If they would have released patch #1 first, fixing a lot of issues the game has, then a week later released the AFL DLC info, it would have placated a lot of fans who are upset with the faults the game has, and in turn would've been more willing to buy the DLC. Just bad timing by EA.
Very true. We haven't had details on what you are fixing and your are trying to sell me something again. Bad timing. But that doesn't matter. A lot of us don't like how interaction has just stopped. Other than the QA thread where 95% of those questions will go unanswered and the Pursuit angels thread. Wha t do we have. Why work on a product so hard and stand by it until it is release and then abandon it like they did. Dumb business move if you ask me.

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Originally Posted by kehlis
From what I understand the patch was submitted for approval at least a week ago.

When it gets released is beyond EA's control.
Yet.. We have no idea other holding on Fg's what is fixed. What are they scared to release more info about it. It just doesn't make any sense.



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Originally Posted by countryboy
For all of those who are pissed that the AFL Legacy Pack cost money, let me ask you this. What is the difference between paying for this and extra map packs for games, customizable parts for driving games, extra songs for Rock Band/Guitar Hero, extra costume packs, extra characters in games, extra this and that with any game?

And please don't use the cop out line that, "well its should've been in the game already" or "I already paid X amount of dollars for this game", because those two lines could be used for any and all games that offer DLC.

So go ahead, please enlighten me and the rest of the community with why what EA/Madden is doing is any different than what any other company that offers DLC is doing.


I think that having to pay extra for songs is stupid too. They are sucking every penny they can get. Why not support the people who bought your game and then see what happens. Are you going to tell me you wouldn't support EA more if they did things like that?

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Originally Posted by ThePebble19
Posts like this are useless. Oh, the nerve of EA to release cool add-ons for their game...Oh, and they are charging me money to do things, what a shame.

It's 7 bucks...Get a part time job, work for an hour or two, then quit, and you have more than enough money to pay for it. I have bills like anyone else...I have a family, and child, and work very hard for my money. The difference is that I have no problem with saving what I would have spent on the Chick-Fil-A that I normally get on Friday or the money that I use at the vending machine at work for a week or two, and using it to pay for my DLC. It's not like they are asking you to pay another 60 bucks for it. If you don't think you are getting your value for the cost of it, then don't buy it. Simple as that.

My money says that come August of next year, hell will freeze over...right about the time that you are handing your hard earned $60.00 to the cashier for your copy of Madden 11
In your thinking everything is just so simple. Have you ever thought about the fact that you might get laid off or you might run into hard times and that $7 you paid for some football unis could be a whole meal for your family from the grocery store(Yeah that $7 you spent at chick filet could be a whole meal for your kids.just sayin..) when you need to put food on the table. Something you should think about everytime you spend money. I'm 26 with no kids and could easily buy this and forget about it tomorrow.
 


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