06:45 AM - August 20, 2009 by VeryEvilAsh
The NHL 10 demo is available for the Xbox 360. Post your impressions here. The PS3 demo will be available next week.
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06:45 AM - August 20, 2009 by VeryEvilAshNHL 10 Videos
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# 301
Roscosuper II @ 08/22/09 04:05 PM
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As much as this game lacks in the presentation dept (for me) I'm having a hard time putting it down. I really love how my CPU teammates defend my teams end of the ice. I'm seeing a lot more of the "little things" that I haven't come to expect from EA hockey. I still suck at the skill stick for scoring, but I'm having fun trying.
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plaidchuck @ 08/22/09 07:13 PM
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Roscosuper II @ 08/22/09 08:42 PM
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But anyway, good to see the hats for Hat tricks in '10'. [For the home team.]
Post-whistle scrums seem pretty useless and unrealistic. It's almost random who gets a penalty. I've had a few instances where I'll poke check the goalie to get the other team to start hitting me, and skate away hoping to draw the penalty, only to find out my player got a 'roughing call'. On the replay my 'roughing' penalty is shown to be me getting cross checked in the back 5 times as I skate in the opposite direction.
From a realism standpoint, having all 10 players on the ice start cross checking each other looks ridiculous. It's almost impossible to shove an opposing player without getting the other 8 players on the ice involved. I was hoping post-whistle action would lead to gatherings around the net, not 5 separate fights. Also, I can't seem to 'facewash' someone without starting a fight every single time. Maybe someone knows how to do this...
I'll probably turn this feature off in the full version, which I'll be buying because overall the game is maybe the best hockey game yet, despite this criticism.
From a realism standpoint, having all 10 players on the ice start cross checking each other looks ridiculous. It's almost impossible to shove an opposing player without getting the other 8 players on the ice involved. I was hoping post-whistle action would lead to gatherings around the net, not 5 separate fights. Also, I can't seem to 'facewash' someone without starting a fight every single time. Maybe someone knows how to do this...
I'll probably turn this feature off in the full version, which I'll be buying because overall the game is maybe the best hockey game yet, despite this criticism.
Also, I know this has been said by others but I have to reiterate it; the decision to use 'Y' as the 'initiate fight' button as well as the 'board pin' button was poor. If you want to pin someone up against the boards but accidentally release Y too soon you start a fight/get a penalty, almost every time. Maybe instead 'initiate fight' could be mapped to the 'back' button.
# 309
bad_philanthropy @ 08/22/09 11:47 PM
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# 311
onlybygrace @ 08/23/09 01:01 AM
Eddie...
If you are having trouble with the skill stick here are a few pointers.
1. Don't deke too much...it slows you down, but use a combination of regular striding with the puck and stuttered dekes. Be shifty and fast. That is what will beat defensemen and suprise goaltenders.
2. On breakaways or simple moves with speed are the way to go.
Simply...speed and illusion dude.
If you are having trouble with the skill stick here are a few pointers.
1. Don't deke too much...it slows you down, but use a combination of regular striding with the puck and stuttered dekes. Be shifty and fast. That is what will beat defensemen and suprise goaltenders.
2. On breakaways or simple moves with speed are the way to go.
Simply...speed and illusion dude.
Even on AS defaults this game is soooo much better than 09. The AI is OUTSTANDING!!! Your teammates finally know where they need to be.
Again.. great job EA! My level last year was a mix of PRO and AS.. this year, AS seems perfect for me.
Again.. great job EA! My level last year was a mix of PRO and AS.. this year, AS seems perfect for me.
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I was either bouncing back and forth from Pro to AS...or trying to find some sort of middle ground.
But this year with '10', I too think AS maybe the level I'll hopefully stick with. All-Star is actually a bit too difficult for me. But I prefer the gameplay on AS vs Pro. Thankfully EA brought back the human/cpu sliders for this year. So with just a few minor tweaks, I should be good to go.
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So does this version allow you to use an alternate configuration besides the shot stick? I wanted to get last years version but the config's not using the shot stick were missing buttons and features (lame). I know people will say that the shot stick is awesome, but I generally dislike any forced use of the right analog stick where it isn't really necessary (i.e. Halo I expect to use it, sports games I'd rather not). 16 years of playing hockey with the same buttons, I've gotten pretty used to them, lol.
Taylor34
Taylor34
I think AI is probably the most important thing in a simulation hockey video game. What are your impressions of the NHL 10 AI based on the demos?
Here are some of mine:
Things I liked:
Players will play a dump and chase game at appropriate times (usually).
Players will bat pucks into the net, redirect them into the net or catch pucks out of the air.
In BE A PRO your linemates will get open, keep moving and can actually make some good plays on their own.
In BE A PRO opponanent AI is much tougher to play against, they won't let you take over the game and they will apply good pressure in the offensive zone.
Goaltenders are much smarter and can make some brillant saves but also allow more rebounds which is great.
AI players will more often be in the right position to get rebounds and will also clear away rebounds in the defensive zone.
Defencemen and goaltenders will block many cross-crease passes.
Things I disliked:
AI will slow down to recieve passes and usually turn the puck over because they have no speed.
Golatenders still seem to flop around a little too much.
Not enough screening plays and tip ins from the AI.
Picture perfect passes from the AI on the enemy team not enough turnovers or bad passes.
AI doesn't start scrums after the whistle (they should when they are behind, you hit them hard in the previous game or all game or series long, they are your rivals, you are in the playoffs, they are an enforcer or tough guy and sometimes for no reason at all.
Same goes for fighting AI players should fight each other sometimes.
Here are some of mine:
Things I liked:
Players will play a dump and chase game at appropriate times (usually).
Players will bat pucks into the net, redirect them into the net or catch pucks out of the air.
In BE A PRO your linemates will get open, keep moving and can actually make some good plays on their own.
In BE A PRO opponanent AI is much tougher to play against, they won't let you take over the game and they will apply good pressure in the offensive zone.
Goaltenders are much smarter and can make some brillant saves but also allow more rebounds which is great.
AI players will more often be in the right position to get rebounds and will also clear away rebounds in the defensive zone.
Defencemen and goaltenders will block many cross-crease passes.
Things I disliked:
AI will slow down to recieve passes and usually turn the puck over because they have no speed.
Golatenders still seem to flop around a little too much.
Not enough screening plays and tip ins from the AI.
Picture perfect passes from the AI on the enemy team not enough turnovers or bad passes.
AI doesn't start scrums after the whistle (they should when they are behind, you hit them hard in the previous game or all game or series long, they are your rivals, you are in the playoffs, they are an enforcer or tough guy and sometimes for no reason at all.
Same goes for fighting AI players should fight each other sometimes.
# 319
kerosene31 @ 08/23/09 06:02 PM
Things I am super impressed with:
-Teammate AI on defense. This +++++. I finally feel comfortable playing my position and letting the CPU handle theirs. I've only ever seen that in one hockey game... and it wasn't an EA game.
Things I like:
-Teammate AI on offense. It is far from perfect, but I have no major complaints either.
Things that still worry me:
-CPU defensive aggressiveness. They seem to spend 100% of their time trying to block out all of your passing options... they just forget about the puck carrier! If you have a very skilled player with the puck, you can "hot-dog" it through the D pretty easily. I still never, ever feel the need to dump the puck. The blueline is easily obtained as long as you don't force it. At least in the demo with a Malkin or a Datsyuk you can slice through defenses pretty easily, seemingly too easily.
-The CPU is far too easy to lure into penalties with the new after the whistle scrums.
-Teammate AI on defense. This +++++. I finally feel comfortable playing my position and letting the CPU handle theirs. I've only ever seen that in one hockey game... and it wasn't an EA game.
Things I like:
-Teammate AI on offense. It is far from perfect, but I have no major complaints either.
Things that still worry me:
-CPU defensive aggressiveness. They seem to spend 100% of their time trying to block out all of your passing options... they just forget about the puck carrier! If you have a very skilled player with the puck, you can "hot-dog" it through the D pretty easily. I still never, ever feel the need to dump the puck. The blueline is easily obtained as long as you don't force it. At least in the demo with a Malkin or a Datsyuk you can slice through defenses pretty easily, seemingly too easily.
-The CPU is far too easy to lure into penalties with the new after the whistle scrums.
# 320
Lordofthething @ 08/23/09 06:36 PM
Anyone ever see a CPU player push the puck ahead with a speed burst?
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