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The Madden NFL 10 demo is now available, please post your impressions here.

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# 1561 matt8204 @ 07/25/09 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cplus1
I BET U ALSO NEVER CRITCIZE THEM WHEN THEY PUT OUT GARBAGE I BET IN YOUR OPINION U WOULD RATE EVERY MADDEN THEP PUT OUT A PERFECT 10 PLEASE GET REAL
Not at all. I have disliked many EA games and even in the ones that I liked, I always pointed out the flaws. I couldn't stand NHL 2005 for PS2 (too much checking) and I really haven't gotten into a next-gen Madden yet. I hated the graphics in '07 and '08 (don't even get me started on the radio announcer from those two years) and '09's gameplay was far from ideal.

I have expressed concerns about '10 as well based upon the demo. I'm having a hard time generating a pass rush, for example. Maybe it's me, maybe it's the game, but it's something that I observed. I know the game isn't perfect. Show me one that is.
 
# 1562 droopizzle34 @ 07/25/09 04:05 PM
Ok guys,since the thread was closed and said it should be in this one,what do you guys think about the RC?

To me,because of the slowed speed,it is EASY AS PIE to RC now (and this is on all pro and all madden setting). I mean who needs strafe when you got all the time in the world to turn your receiver to the ball???

Now I have noticed that the animation for the catch is certainly more realistic this year,but its still the same steps and technique to pull off.

Has anyone played a human and saw a difference in coverage? I'd like to know so we can get this to Ian and they can see that The RC is still there,and maybe even easier...lord help us!
 
# 1563 matt8204 @ 07/25/09 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CoHouse2814
madden does do good things but its so inconsistent. the NFL is about consistency but with proper technique and execution, madden consistently using improper technique and execution and thats why it cant be called a simulation

madden 10 in regards to passing is really good but running and physics and certain animations are horrible. madden in order to surpass and slay 2k dragon every AREA of the game has to be GOOD(dont have to great but is preferred) at one time.
Hmm...I guess the Lions and Bengals didn't read this memo...sorry, couldn't resist.
 
# 1564 kcq71 @ 07/25/09 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Champ24
You mean troof LOL

Thats that New York accent.When I first moved to New York it took me a month to get used to that accent.Those Italians at the Pizza shops gave me a hard time with my Southern accent
 
# 1565 matt8204 @ 07/25/09 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Eddie1967
I agree with the your critics, just another newby going crazy. Man what is happening with this site. I mean it's still a great site overall but new people with the caps, slang and trolling make for very difficult reading indeed. Oh well, have fun while it lasts.
The mods are going to lock this thread if it gets out of control. Come on, guys. Let's keep it civil and on-point. Constructive criticism is the key...none of this "Dude, this game blows, yo" nonsense that does nothing to help.
 
# 1566 Whitesox @ 07/25/09 04:13 PM
This Cplus guy...is he not a spammer? Or are the mods not paying attention?

Anyway, I'm going to play the demo some more, and see if what he says is true.
 
# 1567 CoHouse2814 @ 07/25/09 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by matt8204
Hmm...I guess the Lions and Bengals didn't read this memo...sorry, couldn't resist.
they just dont have talent. but all the players follow the same footwork and stances technique in there respected position. all follow the same rules and maybe alot of they dont execute properly hence why you have great teams from the bad teams but all the games are played the same way. madden dont do that from any position besides QB
 
# 1568 Eddie1967 @ 07/25/09 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by matt8204
The thread is going to get locked if it gets out of control. Come on, guys. Let's keep it civil and on-point. Constructive criticism is the key...none of this "Dude, this game blows, yo" nonsense that does nothing to help.
I agree, although my post went to the wrong person. Did I mention that I hate slang? Oh well back to the impressions. Oh, East Orange New Jersey, devils fan since 1989.
 
# 1569 matt8204 @ 07/25/09 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CoHouse2814
they just dont have talent. but all the players follow the same footwork and stances technique in there respected position. all follow the same rules and maybe alot of they dont execute properly hence why you have great teams from the bad teams but all the games are played the same way. madden dont do that from any position besides QB
Well, to make the NFL you need to have a fair level of talent. I think a lot of it comes down to preparation, desire, discipline and execution at that level. That's what separates good teams from bad teams. Do you skip out to eat lunch or spend an hour watching film on the other team? I just don't know how they would replicate that in Madden aside from using the pure ratings.
 
# 1570 DereckM @ 07/25/09 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by matt8204
Hmm...I guess the Lions and Bengals didn't read this memo...sorry, couldn't resist.
Leave my Lions out of this lol.
 
# 1571 DGuinta1 @ 07/25/09 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by whitesox
This Cplus guy...is he not a spammer? Or are the mods not paying attention?

Anyway, I'm going to play the demo some more, and see if what he says is true.
So annoying. Thankful for the ignore feature!
 
# 1572 matt8204 @ 07/25/09 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DereckM
Leave my Lions out of this lol.
Haha, sorry man. Nothing personal. Your day will come.
 
# 1573 DereckM @ 07/25/09 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by matt8204
Haha, sorry man. Nothing personal. Your day will come.
Yeah i have been saying my day will come for a loooooonnnnngg time. So can someone answer this for me? Why do you guys or some guys not like slang? Just wondering really. Is it a cultural thing? Cool guy, nerd guy thing? Or prep, street thing? Just want a few opinions I know its off subject but seems like alot of things in the forums are off subject now.

Anyway to add to the impressions though. This demo is really good IMO. I still dislike how you can be falling down and press a button to all of a sudden change your momentum. Which totally breaks all laws of gravity, and physics and such. Hopefully these will be the first things the dev team works on with M11. Not presentation not new features not whether a guy wears a platinum change under his jersey. Please work on momentum and physics first.
 
# 1574 nxtbardi @ 07/25/09 04:30 PM
Couple things I don't like :

-Changing to different packages has changed. Why didn't they leave it the way it was? Choosing it at the formation screen so I can see where Fitzgerald lines up, instead of just choosing "Strong Slot" or whatever. I liked it the old way. Much easier.

-The playcalling screen should have the play on the left side be circle, but I guess that is just something to get used to. Shouldddd be something like Left is square middle X and right O. And back is triangle. Oh well.

-Injuries seem a little too much, but not that big of a deal.
 
# 1575 tooldude79 @ 07/25/09 04:41 PM
i just had a play where Warner threw an interception when he was throwing to larry Fitzgerald and Kurt had no pressure on him at all.

The problem is, right after the play, i get a cutscene of Warner screaming at the Right Tackle(did his job) and then Whisenhunt screaming at Boldin(who was completely out of the play on the other side of the field).

cutscenes are all nice and pretty but if theyre illogical then they are useless imo
 
# 1576 CoHouse2814 @ 07/25/09 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by matt8204
Well, to make the NFL you need to have a fair level of talent. I think a lot of it comes down to preparation, desire, discipline and execution at that level. That's what separates good teams from bad teams. Do you skip out to eat lunch or spend an hour watching film on the other team? I just don't know how they would replicate that in Madden aside from using the pure ratings.
i dont know if madden current engine is capable of replicated but they would have to start from square one. they would need new ratings to handle things like read and react in regards to footwork, awareness, and execution for all position. madden engine is a flawed system for FOOTBALL and bring true simulation to life. so in order for them to follow the NFL from technique to execution they would have to start from square or focus the WHOLE ENTIRE dev cycle to that aspect of the game
 
# 1577 roadman @ 07/25/09 04:55 PM
For the naysayers in the thread that stated people will want to rip Ian and EA a new one for making a challenging statement:

Have you ever worked in business before and you are the underdog and your product has been lacking for a few years.

Would you rather have someone in management not say a word and just sit there and produce the status quo or would you rather have a manager look you straight in the eyes and tell you it's Hammer time. Let's kick some butt.

I'd rather have the Hammer time boss. If we come up short in some peoples eye, it wasn't for the lack of effort.

Anyone with a straight face that can tell anyone that 10 isn't much better than 09 is not telling the truth.

We want some one like Ian in charge that will listen to our frustrations and see if he can implements the changes throughout the whole Madden series.

For some of you, being much better than 09 won't be enough. I respect that, but also respect those that feel 09 is much better than 10.

We all have different expectations of what a good game of video game football is. We all aren't the same and that is a good thing.
 
# 1578 Manbearpig @ 07/25/09 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CoHouse2814
i dont know if madden current engine is capable of replicated but they would have to start from square one. they would need new ratings to handle things like read and react in regards to footwork, awareness, and execution for all position. madden engine is a flawed system for FOOTBALL and bring true simulation to life. so in order for them to follow the NFL from technique to execution they would have to start from square or focus the WHOLE ENTIRE dev cycle to that aspect of the game
Stop with this whole new engine talk, it makes no sense Ian already explained
 
# 1579 DereckM @ 07/25/09 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by roadman
For the naysayers in the thread that stated people will want to rip Ian and EA a new one for making a challenging statement:

Have you ever worked in business before and you are the underdog and your product has been lacking for a few years.

Would you rather have someone in management not say a word and just sit there and produce the status quo or would you rather have a manager look you straight in the eyes and tell you it's Hammer time. Let's kick some butt.

I'd rather have the Hammer time boss. If we come up short in some peoples eye, it wasn't for the lack of effort.

Anyone with a straight face that can tell anyone that 10 isn't much better than 09 is not telling the truth.

We want some one like Ian in charge that will listen to our frustrations and see if he can implements the changes throughout the whole Madden series.

For some of you, being much better than 09 won't be enough. I respect that, but also respect those that feel 09 is much better than 10.

We all have different expectations of what a good game of video game football is. We all aren't the same and that is a good thing.
I have seen about a 70/30 in favor of the demo being good. This is the problem that I was talking about in other threads. Its ok for people to post 4 times about how good the game is playing and whatnot. But as soon as a guy says they dont like the game. It turns into the whole basher, naysayer, ***** thing. Im just saying let people say how they feel and leave it at that. Why does it always have to turn into a basher or fanboy thing?
 
# 1580 CoHouse2814 @ 07/25/09 05:03 PM
thats why i said they need to devote alot of the dev cycle revamping the current engine especially when it comes to blocking. no one block in real life like madden block and i dare anyone to show me vid comparing. im not saying madden dont block right cause it times where they do follow there assignments but like i said its very inconsistent to the point where its fake
 


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