08:17 PM - May 28, 2009 by eyeknowzzMadden 2010 News Post
08:17 PM - May 28, 2009 by eyeknowzzMadden NFL 10 Videos
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I agree 100% with TC here. It's the first thing I thought about when watching the new game play vids. It looks just like last years. I was hoping that they would improve the animations at least a little but it's the same old thing.
I still have hope (as I do every year for some strange reason) that the game will be enough of an improvement in the game play department that us football fans will enjoy it but... we shall see.
I absolutely HATE the animations in Madden. Especially when a player turns. It is the weirdest looking animation I have ever seen in a video game. Strange, odd looking robotic movements in Madden have always bugged the crap out of me and this year it is more of the same.
I am also weary of the new gang tackling system. I have seen a bunch of the new videos of game play and I haven't seen one single bit of this new system. I have seen vids of JUST the new gang tackling but none that show it form. I hope it looks real and isn't a gimmick. EA claims it isn't a gimmick but... we shall see.
I still have hope (as I do every year for some strange reason) that the game will be enough of an improvement in the game play department that us football fans will enjoy it but... we shall see.
I absolutely HATE the animations in Madden. Especially when a player turns. It is the weirdest looking animation I have ever seen in a video game. Strange, odd looking robotic movements in Madden have always bugged the crap out of me and this year it is more of the same.
I am also weary of the new gang tackling system. I have seen a bunch of the new videos of game play and I haven't seen one single bit of this new system. I have seen vids of JUST the new gang tackling but none that show it form. I hope it looks real and isn't a gimmick. EA claims it isn't a gimmick but... we shall see.
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TheWatcher @ 05/28/09 10:37 PM
The Good:
*F3's camera angle was nailed, plus the implementation now looks like part of the presentation. I couldn't be more pleased with how this was done. It looks like somebodies feedback was taken real seriously, and I think that was wise
*The vignettes look great.
*I think the animations look good. I remember saying to Ian how much I liked a lot of the new tackles, so this video didn't disappoint.
*The post-play camera's look good.
*The TD Camera is finally making TD's look important. Good job.
*I like the branding of EA Sports as a Network here. I think they tried this last year (and over-did it), but this looks better.
And now for the bad...
*Where's Depth of Field? There were a lot of times that should've kicked in, but didn't (like during pregame warmups, and during the Touchdown scene). That concerns me.
*Tom just doesn't sound much better to me. Maybe I just need to hear more, but it's not looking too good right now. I still feel the way this stuff is being recorded and pieced together is the primary issue (I'm actually certain of that part), and the secondary (but very important) issue is the written material he's getting.
I'd also like to point out the obvious level issues. Tom says one thing and then another part is said at a different volume, and the disparity is painfully obvious. Since those lines I'm referring to are context connected (during the coin toss), I find it strange that whoever edited this didn't either A. Get rid of one of those lines and connect with a different one, or B. Re-record the line that didn't level properly. I engineered music for years which is fun but can be hell to do in terms of its complexity (mostly self-taught but did work with some well-noted guys), and I know factually from experience that what I just described is pretty simple to do when all you're doing is working with spoken non-singing vocals.
The difference between a good engineer and one that misses basic stuff like that is the ear. You either have the ear or you don't. If that's how the final is going to sound, then well... all I'm saying is, you either have the ear or you don't, I'll just leave it at that...
*I HATE that big red ball landing circle with a passion. I'll never like this. I just don't understand the point; there was nothing wrong with what was already being done.
*I like the fact that there is a temperature read at the toss, but hate that I can't select my own temperature in the game!
*There are some camera stability issues. This was the same issue we saw with Madden 09 during post-play when the early vids came out. You can see the problems in 10 during the pre-game warmups where the camera is not 100% stable and you really notice it when Roy Williams is warming up. You'll also notice it on the TD, too. The camera's are too loose, they really need to be pinned down and fixed to the position so there is no movement as a result of the player movement, not even slight movement. Again, same issue Madden 09 showed in early vids.
*It sorta seemed like the Eagles were celebrating losing the fumble fight, lol. I saw this in Alpha, too.
*F3's camera angle was nailed, plus the implementation now looks like part of the presentation. I couldn't be more pleased with how this was done. It looks like somebodies feedback was taken real seriously, and I think that was wise
*The vignettes look great.
*I think the animations look good. I remember saying to Ian how much I liked a lot of the new tackles, so this video didn't disappoint.
*The post-play camera's look good.
*The TD Camera is finally making TD's look important. Good job.
*I like the branding of EA Sports as a Network here. I think they tried this last year (and over-did it), but this looks better.
And now for the bad...
*Where's Depth of Field? There were a lot of times that should've kicked in, but didn't (like during pregame warmups, and during the Touchdown scene). That concerns me.
*Tom just doesn't sound much better to me. Maybe I just need to hear more, but it's not looking too good right now. I still feel the way this stuff is being recorded and pieced together is the primary issue (I'm actually certain of that part), and the secondary (but very important) issue is the written material he's getting.
I'd also like to point out the obvious level issues. Tom says one thing and then another part is said at a different volume, and the disparity is painfully obvious. Since those lines I'm referring to are context connected (during the coin toss), I find it strange that whoever edited this didn't either A. Get rid of one of those lines and connect with a different one, or B. Re-record the line that didn't level properly. I engineered music for years which is fun but can be hell to do in terms of its complexity (mostly self-taught but did work with some well-noted guys), and I know factually from experience that what I just described is pretty simple to do when all you're doing is working with spoken non-singing vocals.
The difference between a good engineer and one that misses basic stuff like that is the ear. You either have the ear or you don't. If that's how the final is going to sound, then well... all I'm saying is, you either have the ear or you don't, I'll just leave it at that...
*I HATE that big red ball landing circle with a passion. I'll never like this. I just don't understand the point; there was nothing wrong with what was already being done.
*I like the fact that there is a temperature read at the toss, but hate that I can't select my own temperature in the game!
*There are some camera stability issues. This was the same issue we saw with Madden 09 during post-play when the early vids came out. You can see the problems in 10 during the pre-game warmups where the camera is not 100% stable and you really notice it when Roy Williams is warming up. You'll also notice it on the TD, too. The camera's are too loose, they really need to be pinned down and fixed to the position so there is no movement as a result of the player movement, not even slight movement. Again, same issue Madden 09 showed in early vids.
*It sorta seemed like the Eagles were celebrating losing the fumble fight, lol. I saw this in Alpha, too.
I don't understand those that say this looks exactly like 09. I been playing 09 again to hold me over till this comes out and 09 is not nearly as highly detailed as this. The players in 09 look like they were cut out of paper and glued onto some fake background. This video looked way better. Much more real looking.
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I thought after the first Madden game play vid I'd be blown away but...meh, its alright, definately improved i have to see how it actually feels and plays
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lostintravise @ 05/28/09 10:47 PM
imo the gameplay was ALRIGHT.. I don't know, the majority of it just didn't feel right. Hopefully I can change my mind as I see more,
thanks for the post
thanks for the post
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blklightning @ 05/28/09 10:51 PM
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But, I think you're getting too excited over this game. What I saw was basically Madden 09 with some MINOR changes. Still has the same crappy robotic animations and the play by play still stinks.
Still too early to tell of course but this will be the very first year since Madden 90 that I will rent first. After watching several vids from Madden 10 I am, so far, disappointed. But I was expecting to be anyways so nothing new there.
# 212
BrianFifaFan @ 05/28/09 10:54 PM
Balloon a little deflated right now. Not getting the Fifa09/2k5 feeling. Hoping that Ian was correct about this build being nothing like where they stand now. But will reserve much more critical judgement till post E3.... 
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# 214
KensaiKatai @ 05/28/09 10:57 PM
as a professional engineer, and a good one at that, the sound design as it stands is still absolutely abysmal...
presentation looks a lot better though..there's a lot of good in there..
but i can't get over how bad the sound is..in every aspect, from the crowd, to the commentary...
edit: i agree with 7thward...why can't we at least have madden if it's gonna be that generic sounding!??!! i mean it's his game and he just retired..honor the man! please?
presentation looks a lot better though..there's a lot of good in there..
but i can't get over how bad the sound is..in every aspect, from the crowd, to the commentary...
edit: i agree with 7thward...why can't we at least have madden if it's gonna be that generic sounding!??!! i mean it's his game and he just retired..honor the man! please?
love how i goes to cut scene after a tackle...i'm gettin excited people....shes lookin good
Gameplay and presentation look really good. I can't wait to see more of the presentation.
Like everyone else said the commentary is just bad. I can live with the bad pauses and awkward cuts, but that was a pretty impressive touchdown catch and we get such a boring reaction.
Also, running animations still look off. They just don't look natural.
Like everyone else said the commentary is just bad. I can live with the bad pauses and awkward cuts, but that was a pretty impressive touchdown catch and we get such a boring reaction.
Also, running animations still look off. They just don't look natural.
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TheWatcher @ 05/28/09 11:02 PM
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# 218
Captain Obvious @ 05/28/09 11:03 PM
hey i just noticed theres a double team on ratliff and they pancake his ***. gj but please fix the pocket!!!
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whoady4shoady @ 05/28/09 11:03 PM
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stiffarmleft @ 05/28/09 11:03 PM
The lack of momentum and feet planting is very bothersome to me, especially on the defensive side of the ball, it just doesn't look right. The presentation and player models look better but I'm not feeling the way the game moves.
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