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Madden NFL 10: Updated Running Animation

03:18 PM - May 1, 2009 by Ian_Cummings

We're having some export problems today - the ball keeps showing up rotated 90 degrees in the guys hands. In the meantime, I can show one run style that was slightly adjusted by Simon...this one is still in progress but I figured people would like to see it and give feedback.

Slightly adjusted run style from easports on Vimeo.

Thoughts?

Also to compare, I uploaded the sprinter style (that no one seems to like)...this is the 09 version so hopefully I'll have a comparison video of the new one soon once we sort out Simon's export problems.

Madden NFL 09 run style from easports on Vimeo.

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# 221 iBlievN5 @ 06/24/09 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrant8RDFL


	Unfortunately it does look like graphics have taken a hit on animations. Last gen Madden had great smooth animations and gameplay. Graphics were nice , not great but nice. Now on this engine being used for Madden. The graphics are very nice but animations and gameplay are not smooth. I think as of now it is safe to say that graphics really take away from gameplay.

this makes no sense.

the thing is that old gen maddens had completely scripted animations (like APF 2K8) and that led to a smoother look but less dynamic animations in general. oh, and the fact that they made it for 8 years already. i have complete faith that this gen will eventually be that smooth even with the ability to influence animations. we've only used the tech for 3 years.

# 222 Moegames @ 06/24/09 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by #1EaglesFan1973


	Yo Ian if possible can you.... These Philadelphia Eagles could use some tweaking both in Body types & equipment...Just click on the links under each players name to view their individual Photo Galleries to see what I'm talkin about. DT Mike Patterson #98 is too small & slender. He's a short stout,squatty wide body at DT. DT Brodrick Bunkley #97 You could prolly just reverse Bunkley & patterson's body types. Bunkley looks like what Patterson should like & vice versa. OL Todd herremans #79 is kind of on the slender side for an O-lineman TE Cornelius Ingram #88 is ripped but kind of slender. He looks too bulky. DT Dan Klecko #68 like Patterson is a short stocky wide body. he's too slender on the game. Also will you be tweaking players equipment as well? Hopefully because I see some flaws w/ some of my Eagles pLayers. Here is a list & links to each players Photo Galleries as to what they should have equipment wise under ea. players name...remember please click throught the Galleries to see the exact details. FB Leonard Weaver #43 - has a Revolution Helmet & 3 Bar RB Facemask. http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/te...ardWeaver.html Wr Jeremy Maclin #18 - has a Standard Riddell & 2 Bar Facemask now. http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/te...emyMaclin.html DE Darren Howard #90 - Has Standard Helmet w/ a Bull Facemask... but not the 1 w/ those 2 extra Bars that go vertically in the eye area like the Robot facemask..don't know why that Facemask still hasn't been fixed after all these years of bein wrong http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/te...renHoward.html DE Juqua Parker #75 - has a Revolution Helmet & Revo Full Cage Facemask... http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/JuquaParker.html DE Bryan Smith #63 - has a Revolution style Helmet & Revo Full Cage 2 Facemask... http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/BryanSmith.html OL Mike McGlynn #77 - (NOT #68 anymore) Has a Revolution style Helmet & Revo Full Cage Facemask... http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/MikeMcGlynn.html LB Stewart Bradley #55 - has that New Helmet style w/ the 3 Bar RB Facemask NOT the Robot RB Facemask that u have in Madden 10 that I saw yesterday... http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/te...rtBradley.html LB Joe Mays #51 - Has a Standard 3 Helmet w/ a version of the 3 Bar RB Facemask. http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/JoeMays.html DT Bradrick Bunkley #97 has a Bull Facemask type but it's a lil different because 2 of the Bars that got vertically in the front are slanted in a way Is this facemask in Madden 10?? If so is it to late to add it?? but not the 1 w/ those 2 extra Bars that go vertically in the eye area like the Robot facemask..don't know why that Facemask still hasn't been fixed after all these years of bein wrong http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/te...ckBunkley.html DT Dan Klecko #68 -(Not a FB anymore) Has a Standard Riddell Helmet w/ a Full Cage 2 Facemask... http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/DanKlecko.html DT Mike Patterson #98 - Has the Standard 2 (Schutt) Helmet w/ a Full Cage 2 Facemask... http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/as...24-Players.jpg FS Quintin Demps #39 - has a Standard Riddell Helmet w/ Robot RB Facemask instead of the regular Robot Facemask... http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/te...ntinDemps.html OL Jason Peters #71 -Has wrong Facemask...click on the link to see what it should look like. I'm not even sure if u even have this on the game but hopefully u do. http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/JasonPeters.html TE Cornelius Ingram #88 - doesn't have a the Revolution style Helmet or Facemask anymore he has a Schutt Helmet (Standard 2) w/ a 3 Bar RB Facemask... http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/te...iusIngram.html WR Jason Avant #81 - (Had the wrong Facemask in 09. Has a Standard Riddell Helmet w/ a Robot Facemask) http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/JasonAvant.html WR Hank Baskett #84 - (Had wrong facemask in 09 Has a Standard Riddell Helmet w/ a 3 Bar facemask) http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/HankBaskett.html WR Brandon Gibson #19 - Has a Standard Helmet w/ a clear Visor & Robot facemask) http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/te...donGibson.html Thank You for taking the time!! Game looks better than ever!! Very pumped about Madden 10!!

# 223 Scott @ 06/24/09 04:58 AM

Are you seriously complaining about the wrong facemasks?

# 224 ChuckaLuk @ 06/24/09 08:31 AM

wheres the video? it's says no longer avalible.

# 225 noplace @ 06/24/09 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by siznit


	What happened to the videos. Does the running animations compare to 2k's running animations from anyone who's seen it?

No they dont compare. From the earlier vids they look the same with the knee not going up as high.

# 226 Warren_Peace @ 06/24/09 09:55 AM

ian_cummingsRunning animations...for those that think they look like they're jogging, I captured on SLOW game speed. DUH can't believe I forgot that.
This is from Ian twitter!

# 227 DocHolliday @ 06/24/09 10:17 AM

Man this forum has turned into a huge hate-a-thon before the release. I feel bad for what Ian has coming to him when this game hits. Its gonna be a slaughter.

The thing is it will probably be the best Madden in a long time...and he will still be blasted. Lose lose. I doubt he does this again next year.

# 228 DocHolliday @ 06/24/09 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetpac


	Its people like you who are content on everything. No one is hating they are simply voicing there concerns. Get on topic.

Haha. You better shut your mouth when your talking to me.

You are the peeps that makes OS look more like IGN forums. Go away. Go outside.

# 229 wohlm @ 06/24/09 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DocHolliday


	Man this forum has turned into a huge hate-a-thon before the release. I feel bad for what Ian has coming to him when this game hits. Its gonna be a slaughter. The thing is it will probably be the best Madden in a long time...and he will still be blasted. Lose lose. I doubt he does this again next year.

lol so true. If only the fans knew what these developers went through. As a community you have to realize, they will not get everything right. Would you rather have really great quality on certain parts of the game or a bunch of parts that were mediocre? I'll take quality over quantity anyday.

# 230 Gabeking @ 06/24/09 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Warren_Peace


	ian_cummingsRunning animations...for those that think they look like they're jogging, I captured on SLOW game speed. DUH can't believe I forgot that. This is from Ian twitter!

haha ya im confused about that also

# 231 Broncos86 @ 06/24/09 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jetpac


	Its people like you who are content on everything. No one is hating they are simply voicing there concerns. Get on topic.

Gotta disagree with this . There are a LOT of people here who think constructive criticism equates to: "OMG Ian, wtf? This looks like crap, why can't they fix it? Just FIX IT!!!1"

# 232 Bgamer90 @ 06/24/09 11:21 AM

Ian Cumming's update from twitter:

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	Running animations...for those that think they look like they're jogging, I captured on SLOW game speed. DUH can't believe I forgot that. Run anims: it's not like they're perfect but the "slow" look can be remedied by playing on >= Normal game speed. Other stuff = still looking

So basically since the game was set to slow speed in his vids, the players looked like they weren't running fast.

# 233 Bloppy @ 06/24/09 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Broncos86


	Gotta disagree with this . There are a LOT of people here who think constructive criticism equates to: "OMG Ian, wtf? This looks like crap, why can't they fix it? Just FIX IT!!!1"

# 234 stiffarmleft @ 06/24/09 01:05 PM

Wouldn't upping the game speed exacerbate the problems that the game has had this generation and that the slower game speed supposedly remedied. Also is normal game speed slower than last year?

# 235 Bgamer90 @ 06/24/09 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stiffarmleft


	Wouldn't upping the game speed exacerbate the problems that the game has had this generation and that the slower game speed supposedly remedied. Also is normal game speed slower than last year?

Yes, the normal game speed is still slower than last year.

# 236 DENNISJR60 @ 06/24/09 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NYGmen56


	Yes IAN, where did this go??? hmmmm.. Now these are more like true running animations! These look really good and bring out the realism in a game. Those animations almost look better then 2k's. These type of animations make the game have a soul, like they have life.. So why aren't these in MAdden 10? Didn't you guys say you where working on these running animations for the game?? IMO, if Madden 10 doesn't have this gameplay & running animations, it sorta in a way failed. Gameplay is key, without it everything else is just, fluff.. Fix the CORE, then add the Fluff.. Wow how could they not add these animations to Madden 10

Those videos are a lot better than what's been seen. If the running is like those vids we'll be alright.

# 237 vision @ 06/24/09 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bgamer90


	Ian Cumming's update from twitter: So basically since the game was set to slow speed in his vids, the players looked like they weren't running fast.

Like I said on another thread, shenanigans dude. The pursuers legs are churning faster than the ball carriers run animation. Even when the ball is intercepted, that particular run animation is faster. You turn up this so called speed option.. the offensive ball carrier animation will still be slower than the pursuer animation. Sorry, I don't buy the "Duhh!!.. bduuurr!

" excuse.

# 238 Colladie @ 06/24/09 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NYGmen56


	Ya think.. Madden would be better then alright if it ran like those vids, maybe even special.. But......

They are in the game. Route running animations and the general running animations are different. If you don't believe me, look at the Panthers vs. Raiders video Ian out up on Youtube, and look at the crossing routes and the in and out routes. They look almost identical to the Youtube videos you posted.

# 239 bigjuice504 @ 06/24/09 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Colladie


	They are in the game. Route running animations and the general running animations are different. If you don't believe me, look at the Panthers vs. Raiders video Ian out up on Youtube, and look at the crossing routes and the in and out routes. They look almost identical to the Youtube videos you posted.

OK, why don't they use something like the route running animations for the general running. The route running looks more realistic, then the general running does, they look like they are jogging and it looks robotic.

# 240 DrewBledsoe @ 06/24/09 08:54 PM

Quote from Ian C

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	Case in point = run animations and commentary...neither have changed much from 09 but now they are a "game killer" because the quality around the rest of the game has risen up and the time wasn't spent on either to bring them up to that next level of polish as well.

Sounds like he isn't happy with the run anims, but we'll be waiting till M11 or 12...until then, you'll have to be content with your favorite speed merchant sauntering towards the endzone,with all the conviction of a hippy at the end of Woodstock..

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