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Gamespot has posted a Major League Baseball 2K9 video, showcasing the Cardinals @ Cubs.

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# 41 SoxFan01605 @ 02/13/09 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by HK-47
No, this happens in 2k8 too.You'll put your fielder right where he should be, but he just doesn't even try to catch the ball.This happens with infielders too, but with grounders.(Outfielders let balls roll between their legs sometimes too.)

It's part of the A.I comeback coding, cause after this happens, the A.I will string together a couple of legit hits, then a 3 run bomb to cap the rally off...And usually the HR comes via the A.I pulling a low and away fastball.
Yeah, it was a pain sometimes. Hopefully some of these repeat issues we see are due to the earlier build they're playing. I dunno.

Also in the Sox/Yanks video, no rollcall in Yankee stadium I see. and the animations still drive me nutty sometimes.

This game is just kinda all over the place for me. I can clearly see the improvements in areas, but some things just bug me.
 
# 42 thornie @ 02/13/09 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by HK-47
No, this happens in 2k8 too.You'll put your fielder right where he should be, but he just doesn't even try to catch the ball.This happens with infielders too, but with grounders.(Outfielders let balls roll between their legs sometimes too.)

It's part of the A.I comeback coding, cause after this happens, the A.I will string together a couple of legit hits, then a 3 run bomb to cap the rally off...And usually the HR comes via the A.I pulling a low and away fastball.
*shivers* Bringing back bad memories of my 2k8 Brewers franchise.. Bad things man, badddd things.
 
# 43 thundergatti @ 02/13/09 06:01 PM
The Inside Edge is killing this game for me. Specifically the pitch selection. Watching this video just reminded me, I can't bear the catcher calling for offspeed pitches in, like a changeup low and in side. Sometimes pitches end up there, of course, but rarely on purpose. Furthermore, last year you'd get punished with the pay-off pitch in that if you didn't hit the spot that the catcher called for with two strikes you'd lose effectiveness of that pitch.
 
# 44 DaveDQ @ 02/13/09 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by HK-47
No, this happens in 2k8 too.You'll put your fielder right where he should be, but he just doesn't even try to catch the ball.This happens with infielders too, but with grounders.(Outfielders let balls roll between their legs sometimes too.)

It's part of the A.I comeback coding, cause after this happens, the A.I will string together a couple of legit hits, then a 3 run bomb to cap the rally off...And usually the HR comes via the A.I pulling a low and away fastball.
I know what you are talking about, especially with 2K8, but I never saw it as a gameplay issue. It's just extremely difficult to make sure he's in the right spot. I wouldn't attribute it to come back logic.
 
# 45 duke776 @ 02/13/09 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveDQ
I know what you are talking about, especially with 2K8, but I never saw it as a gameplay issue. It's just extremely difficult to make sure he's in the right spot. I wouldn't attribute it to come back logic.
I wouldn't attribute it to come back logic either, but I do think it's a problem in the gameplay. I have had this happen to me plenty of times in 2k8, where I had the player in the exact right spot and they don't try to catch the ball. I hope it's not a serious problem in the retail version because this game looks a lot more promising after all these videos. I like what I've seen so far(besides this)...
 
# 46 BadKermit @ 02/13/09 06:31 PM
I'm really surprised by the negativity here. I think all of the videos I've seen so far look excellent. Sure, there are some graphical glitches and some weird animations sometimes, but this looks like an extraordinarily fun game to play. And you know what? There were weird glitches and animations in MVP 2005 and in High Heat, the generally-accepted "gold standard" for video game baseball. We got over them because those games were great.

I also can't fathom the "rocket arms" comments. Pujols scored relatively easily on a sharp line drive into center field. Fukudome has a decent arm, and Pujols is a slow turd. It seems to me the play should have been even closer than it was.

And on the play where Soriano lets the ball drop right next to him, the user didn't go back far enough on the ball. Sure, it would be nice to see an animation where Soriano reaches for the ball and misses it, but the end result is the same. The user misplayed the ball, and the ball rolled to the wall.

It looks like it's finally going to be possible to distinguish between balls and strikes, and the real-time atmosphere is absolutely incredible.

I understand the frustrations with the previous iterations of this game, because I share them. But I can't believe people are reacting this angrily to the same videos I'm seeing.
 
# 47 SoxFan01605 @ 02/13/09 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BadKermit
I'm really surprised by the negativity here. I think all of the videos I've seen so far look excellent. Sure, there are some graphical glitches and some weird animations sometimes, but this looks like an extraordinarily fun game to play. And you know what? There were weird glitches and animations in MVP 2005 and in High Heat, the generally-accepted "gold standard" for video game baseball. We got over them because those games were great.

I also can't fathom the "rocket arms" comments. Pujols scored relatively easily on a sharp line drive into center field. Fukudome has a decent arm, and Pujols is a slow turd. It seems to me the play should have been even closer than it was.

And on the play where Soriano lets the ball drop right next to him, the user didn't go back far enough on the ball. Sure, it would be nice to see an animation where Soriano reaches for the ball and misses it, but the end result is the same. The user misplayed the ball, and the ball rolled to the wall.

It looks like it's finally going to be possible to distinguish between balls and strikes, and the real-time atmosphere is absolutely incredible.

I understand the frustrations with the previous iterations of this game, because I share them. But I can't believe people are reacting this angrily to the same videos I'm seeing.
I think it works both way though. To be honest most who have gripes with the way the game looks aren't bashing it. Just as most who have good things to say aren't bowing down to it.

You have to read between the extremes. The trouble is there are people here who are intent on trying to discredit any criticism of the game at all. People who like things just the way they are and make sure to jump on anyone who differs in opinion.

I think the constant defense of every single criticism leads to some of the outpouring of frustration by some (obviously there are those who will never be positive).

I'm not really surprised by any of it to be honest, as it's a usual cycle this time of year. Some people (on both sides of the fence...positive AND negative) are too caught up in their loyalties and try to state their opinion as fact for all.

We should all be able to differ in a respectable way. Sadly, many here (again, on BOTH sides of things) are bent on personalizing a videogame...lol. Oh well...must be baseball season

As I said before, I have my gripes, but I do see a level of improvement.
 
# 48 tyler289 @ 02/13/09 06:46 PM
Looks pretty good, in my opinion. It won't be perfect, but it certainly seems playable. (This is just after 3 videos, though, so who knows)
 
# 49 videobastard @ 02/13/09 07:15 PM
2k Should just scrap the baseball games and give up the license. Its the same issues every year with this series.

How can you not get the fundamental sound of a bat hitting the ball. That is the essence of baseball.

They continue to have the same robotic animations. Some of the plays look laughable. All the outfielders regardless of the power meter get into a canned animation like there going to throw there arms out of socket.

Its a shame to have great commentary and the same old gameplay to back it up.
 
# 50 SPTO @ 02/13/09 07:27 PM
Looking at the Cubs video I must say it looks pretty good. I like the graphics a lot, while it's a lot better then last year's game it has sort of a scaled down look to it. The announcing is a million times better which is shocking as I thought they'd mail that in again but I think i'll be playing the game with the sound on for a while yet. The only thing that concerned me was not seeing a single ground ball.
 
# 51 SoxFan01605 @ 02/13/09 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JonahFalcon
Did you miss the Cubs fans getting angry after the 3rd run scored. They were chanting "(Something, couldn't make it out) sucks!" for a bit.
No, No...I heard some reactions. I was talking the initial reaction after the HR....pretty pathetic.

The good news is that one of the devs said the crowd is MUCH more boisterous in the final build and they spent plenty of time optimizing them. So that has my hopes up.
 
# 52 bubba4 @ 02/13/09 07:36 PM
Finally!! We get VC on the job of baseball and now I can see the improvements for baseball from 2K. This game is headed in the right direction folks. Although it will not win the graphics battle this year, the thing that always bothered me about 2K baseball was that things that happen is a real baseball game were not happening in 2K7 and 2K8. From these few vids I can see REAL improvement here in the game of baseball. All other things will come, but the gameplay, and of course the usual 2K presentation is looking sharp. For all of the negative remarks here, the positives from where this game has come from in a short time far out shine the bad.
I am looking forward to this game.
Finally, from the small amount of video evidence I've seen, 2K is on the right track.
Bubba4
 
# 53 Marino @ 02/13/09 07:37 PM
It looks like the 360 users will get a good game this year. I hope so.
 
# 54 -Boss- @ 02/13/09 07:45 PM
Hopefully the case is 2k made the game playable this year, and next years game will be the real deal.
 
# 55 DIESEL @ 02/13/09 11:00 PM
Positives:
-Presentation is much better. Nice commentary and camera angles
-Nice hit variety

Negatives:
-The game looks very washed out and bland.
-Homerun bat sounds are laughable
-Organ music, dear God the organ music!
-Still seeing those WTF? 2k moments that kill the game.

That Soriano play was just bad all around. I'll blame the user for not catching the ball, but there was a runner on 2nd at the time. Ball goes to the wall, relay comes in to 2nd base where Pujols is safe. Than the Cubs throw home where the CPU runner from 2nd is just now getting there and proceeds to attempt a hook slide straight through the catcher and is called out. No part of that play looked/felt realistic.
 
# 56 rundastreetz @ 02/14/09 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Trevytrev11
Gotta love Rich Harden sporting the A's cap in his profile picture. They really need to find a way around this...maybe generic hats for everyone.

Its actually very simple...all they need to do is get someone to take the time to photoshop the caps of all the players that switched teams..
 
# 57 EnigmaNemesis @ 02/14/09 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JonahFalcon
On my list of priorities, that's just below having vendors calling out "popcorn! peanuts!"

I'd rather they work on, say, making it easier to draw walks vs. the AI.

Yes, because game makers are one dimensional, and cant work on "little things" that in the grand scheme of things, add up to huge presentation bonuses. Especially when you buy a 3rd party license.

I always hate these comments. Same in The Show forums when they say, "but you put mascots in but not this". Game companies are made up of different departments. So the intern that is photo-shopping proper logo's etc, chances are, is not working on the AI side of things.

Anyhow, I still agree on the walks thing though. This game will not be as sim as some will have hoped I fear.
 
# 58 PVarck31 @ 02/14/09 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by EnigmaNemesis
Yes, because game makers are one dimensional, and cant work on "little things" that in the grand scheme of things, add up to huge presentation bonuses. Especially when you buy a 3rd party license.

I always hate these comments. Same in The Show forums when they say, "but you put mascots in but not this". Game companies are made up of different departments. So the intern that is photo-shopping proper logo's etc, chances are, is not working on the AI side of things.

Anyhow, I still agree on the walks thing though. This game will not be as sim as some will have hoped I fear.
Just remember, there is sliders that can fix the lack of walks.
 
# 59 EnigmaNemesis @ 02/14/09 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by pjv31
Just remember, there is sliders that can fix the lack of walks.

Lets hope.

I find that sliders just don't do enough, or just do too much when the core game has it's flaws.

I also hope they dont get lazy on the "game out of the box" because of the "slider crutch", due to what I mentioned in the previous sentence.
 
# 60 SoxFan01605 @ 02/14/09 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Scottdau
Any ways I love the real time effects, but I am not digging the swing animation.
Yeah...looks like the same horrible swings they've had for awhile now. It's a shame too because at times it can kill the otherwise awesome immersion of their signature styles.

I know simballer said that animations are a big thing for them and they plan on that continuing as a focus, but they just couldn't get them all this year. Understandable to a degree and VC does have a pretty good rep for animations, so that's hopeful for the long term.
 


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