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# 121 DC @ 09/23/08 12:46 PM

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	Others have touched upon the commentary... that's known already. Play-calling looks to have more options in Live... only because there is a Logo above more than one guy during a play.

That is NOT the only reason why Live's play calling system looks better. Take of your glasses Pared. Seriously man

# 122 Bornindamecca @ 09/23/08 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	I never had a problem with teams playing the same last year and I dont think that will be an issue this year. I played a ton of games last year and never had that problem. I havent seen many people complain about that either.

He's speaking in absolutes, which is obscuring the point. The AI didn't play exactly the same from team to team, but when you take certain factors into consideration:
-lead passing
-late shot clock jumpers
-back door cuts
-lack of off the dribble shooting
-obscure player hot streaks
-robotic application of double teams
-lack of attampts to draw charges

Those are things that all of the CPU teams did last year, and those tendencies did bring teams closer together in similarity than they would be in real life.

# 123 Pared @ 09/23/08 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	Yes but even Live's commentary gets old after a few months. Most of you dont know because you havent played that game much in the last few years. I have no problem with people saying that the commentary needs a change but to act as if its an important (game ruining as fluent just said) flaw is ridiculous. Commentary doesnt rate on most casual/hardcore fans top 10 list of wanted features.

Quite honestly... those who have not played Live the previous years will feel the commentary is new and fresh since they have not had privy to hearing those lines before.

A bit confusing trying to make my point but I think most will understand what I'm getting at.

# 124 aholbert32 @ 09/23/08 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican


	Typical OS 2K Board, "It ain't that important to me so it shouldn't be important to you so you shouldn't be complaining about it" - defense mechanism

Thats a ****ing idiotic response. I'm not saying that people cant complain. I said as much in my response. I said that people yell "why havent they fixed that" and there are/were much more important things to fix. I think most fans would say that crowd sound was much more of an issue in 2k8 than commentary and they fixed the crowd in 2k9.

# 125 jfsolo @ 09/23/08 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SageInfinite


	I swear some people act like NBA 2k was just a placeholder until NBA Live got good/playable again. NBA 2k has consistantly been a good solid game, yet it needs an overhaul(some areas it does). EA makes Live playable after all these years, now all of a sudden its the better game. SMH .

This is the amazing effect that happens when you create a BRAND and stamp it into the minds of the public. For a large percentage of the sports gaming customer base all won't be right in the universe again until EA has the best game, and all others are trying to catch up to them.

Its not even a conscious thought process either. The default mindset is: EA is the Top Dog.

# 126 aholbert32 @ 09/23/08 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican


	As opposed to 2K's gettin old in a few weeks. Hell since we ALREADY have heard the 2K9 commentary for 3 years now it might even be old in a few days.

Same can be said for Live. I've heard a ton of the lines in the demo in previous versions. All commentary gets old.

# 127 Pared @ 09/23/08 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican


	That is NOT the only reason why Live's play calling system looks better. Take of your glasses Pared. Seriously man

LOL Quite the ironic statement, despite the context.

Again, Live's play calling is not a huge advancement over 2k's. They have about 2 or 3 differences in their execution, that's all.

# 128 fluent2332 @ 09/23/08 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican


	Another feature that College Hoops had correct that NBA 2K refuses to fix.

Exactly

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	I have no problem with people saying that the commentary needs a change but to act as if its an important (game ruining as fluent just said) flaw is ridiculous.

Same commentary as last year's + no team specific playcalling, does not warrant a purchase for me. These are flaws that could vastly improve the game but have not been fixed.

He just put one big paw up there, and jammed it thru!!! Whoever wrote that would be fired if I was running the show. lol

Game-breaking, nah. Annoying as all hell, yep. Can be fixed or improved upon? yep. Should have been fixed and improved upon by now? yep. I can't say 2K has any excuse not to have fixed those features in 2K9

# 129 Bornindamecca @ 09/23/08 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	Yes but even Live's commentary gets old after a few months.

For sixty bucks, I'm fine with getting a few months of effective commentary. I don't need it to last a whole year, but it shouldn't be so close to a game I already bought, especially when that game had poor commentary.

# 130 DC @ 09/23/08 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pared


	Quite honestly... those who have not played Live the previous years will feel the commentary is new and fresh since they have not had privy to hearing those lines before. A bit confusing trying to make my point but I think most will understand what I'm getting at.

That does NOT erase the fact that Live's commentary is STILL better though. Yes it is DIFFERENT and different does not always mean BETTER but how can anyone say Live's commentary isn't better?

They are clearly NOT reading from a 3rd grade script like Harlan and Kenny/Clark

# 131 Pared @ 09/23/08 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bornindamecca


	He's speaking in absolutes, which is obscuring the point. The AI didn't play exactly the same from team to team, but when you take certain factors into consideration: -lead passing -late shot clock jumpers -back door cuts -lack of off the dribble shooting -obscure player hot streaks -robotic application of double teams -lack of attampts to draw charges Those are things that all of the CPU teams did last year, and those tendencies did bring teams closer together in similarity than they would be in real life.

Good post.

# 132 elprez98 @ 09/23/08 12:50 PM

That first post up with Bosh was surreal. That's EXACTLY how that fool plays with those long jump hooks.

# 133 DC @ 09/23/08 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pared


	LOL Quite the ironic statement, despite the context. Again, Live's play calling is not a huge advancement over 2k's. They have about 2 or 3 differences in their execution, that's all.

Yea 2 or 3 HUGE differences though. Pared you are killing me with all of this defense you are playing man.

Point blank

2K needs to work on their commentary and play calling system. Nothing more needs to be said. Anyone that disagrees..............oh the hell well

# 134 Pared @ 09/23/08 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican


	That does NOT erase the fact that Live's commentary is STILL better though. Yes it is DIFFERENT and different does not always mean BETTER but how can anyone say Live's commentary isn't better? They are clearly NOT reading from a 3rd grade script like Harlan and Kenny/Clark

Where did I post otherwise? Please don't put words in my mouth in the heat of the moment.

aholbert mentioned that either way, they will both get old. I just continued on with his point.

# 135 KG @ 09/23/08 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by J.R. Locke


	Wrong. Sliders are about increasing the difficulty in my case. When I play the Spurs I increase the defensive sliders to replicate their defense of prowess. When I play the Nuggets I increase the speed sliders and decrease some defensive sliders to replicate that team better. Sliders are good for adding difficulty and customizing a game to my ideal. Which is different from your ideal. Don't go bashing sliders they are the only thing that has kept me from quitting video games altogether.

Team sliders help out so much. Thank god FIFA finally decided to use them, too bad NCAA refuses to incorporate them.

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Originally Posted by elprez98


	I'm kind of in between. I thoroughly enjoy the game without commentary, but I've been playing games for a LONG time without commentary, including NFL 2k5. To me, all commentary gets boring after a while so I just turn it off once I start hearing to many repeats.

I'm the same way as you. I would listen to commentary but since it's been the same I usually just turn it off. Especially when you're playing Association mode and you hear the same things about your team over and over again.

Honestly, i just like crank up the court/stadium sounds so it feels like I am playing in the game and not watching it on TV.

All valid points across the board on commentary though. Don't hype up new commentary if it's the same tired stuff.

# 136 elprez98 @ 09/23/08 12:52 PM

Is it just the way Steve is playing or have the dunks actually been toned down a bit?

# 137 Parasight @ 09/23/08 12:52 PM

Oh snap!

I think I they finally fixed the "hookshot hitting the side of the backboard, or back of it." You can see JO is posting by the baseline, spins towards the out-of-bounds and hooks and the ball travels towards the rim instead of into the backboard. It's around the 1:23 mark.

# 138 aholbert32 @ 09/23/08 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fluent2332


	Exactly Game-breaking, nah. Annoying as all hell, yep. Can be fixed or improved upon? yep. Should have been fixed and improved upon by now? yep. I can't say 2K has any excuse not to have fixed those features in 2K9

You said and I quote the commentary "sucks the life out of the game". That sounds like game breaking to me.

But really...why do I care? If you dont buy the game because of commentary, thats ur perrogative. I sold my 2k stock so i'm not making any money from your purchase. Actually buy Live, they have better commentary and I still own EA stock.

# 139 Bornindamecca @ 09/23/08 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Parasight


	Oh snap! I think I they finally fixed the "hookshot hitting the side of the backboard, or back of it." You can see JO is posting by the baseline, spins towards the out-of-bounds and hooks and the ball travels towards the rim instead of into the backboard. It's around the 1:23 mark.

I had a big grin on my face when I saw that too.

# 140 DC @ 09/23/08 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by aholbert32


	Thats a ****ing idiotic response. I'm not saying that people cant complain. I said as much in my response. I said that people yell "why havent they fixed that" and there are/were much more important things to fix. I think most fans would say that crowd sound was much more of an issue in 2k8 than commentary and they fixed the crowd in 2k9.

Well stop mentioning how "unimportant" commentary is and address the ISSUE.

Typcial of you OS dudes man, downplay the importance of somebody's complains. That goes on SO MUCH around here. Who are you to determine how important a complaint is?

Like the dudes that complain about accessories. Yall give them HELL as if they don't have valid arguments. It might not be important TO YOU but you aren't the only person on this board that wants their voice heard.

I never have and never will downplay the importance of a BLATANT issue. Some of you need to take notes.

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