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# 221
seven james @ 07/31/08 10:42 PM
is it just me or does it seem that the recievers drop a lot of passes? i'm not talking about getting jack-up after the catch kind of drops, i'm talking about wide open hit me in the face mask kind of drops. it seems the catching animations are a bit off...
otherwise i totally agree, this demo gives me a nice feeling about august 12
otherwise i totally agree, this demo gives me a nice feeling about august 12
Found another glitch while playing the demo.
My player was running and fumbled the ball, Shockey picked it up and ran it for a TD. Exciting right?! Said I failed the madden Moment??
The game looks better and I do like the way they are implementing the different camera angles after the play and after breaking the huddle, but During the play I wish the camera would be more dynamic and not stay so zoomed out etc.
Isn't it ironic that every video that EA releases prior to release show upclose action of the game, but when you play the game it's far away? I understand you need some angle for viewing receivers.... but come on, seems EA is taking a easy way out or the engine doesn't allow this.
Anyone know if there will be other camera angles?
I also like the ability for the replay to run in the window on the right while you are selecting your next play but do you have to chose that manually each time? I thought that if I set it on instant replay it would stay on the instant replay tab but I have to set it ever time... LAME! My biggest complaint is the gameplay is really dull and NOT FUN once again. I really wish I could put my finger on it but I just can't figure out why it's not fun.
Like someone else pointed out, fatigue seems to be really over the top. I don't mind this that much and should make for interesting battles online (having to strategically use your bench) but just something to watch for. Guess EA didn't want to leave out fatigue like a couple of years ago LOL.
When subbing out players during the play calling screen it would be nice to have a more interactive feel like photos popping up on the right or the depth chart showing strengths or ratings etc. Also it would be a nice touch to have them jog onto the field or some way to make it feel like you subbed rather than just have the next screen your players breaking huddle with the new player magically there. Even the first Madden on the Genesis 1991 had this... I liked the way you could see your players jogging back to the huddle etc in All Pro 2K8 in the background while you called the play not just hiding the action on the field with playcalling screens etc like EA does. At least they don't do like last year and have a stupid pan of the stadiums during the playcalling screen.
I keep reminding myself when trying to have faith in EA BABY STEPS, BABY STEPS. This game is better than 08 but not revolutionary. If you liked 08 you will love 09. If you disliked 08 I think you will still be luke warm over 09.
I give the Demo a C+ and remain skeptical.
Biggest Positive: Graphics have a more 3-D look and shading is great.
Biggest Negative: Gameplay just seems stale and recycled from 07 and 08. I dare someone to say it's not the exact same gameplay.
My player was running and fumbled the ball, Shockey picked it up and ran it for a TD. Exciting right?! Said I failed the madden Moment??
The game looks better and I do like the way they are implementing the different camera angles after the play and after breaking the huddle, but During the play I wish the camera would be more dynamic and not stay so zoomed out etc.
Isn't it ironic that every video that EA releases prior to release show upclose action of the game, but when you play the game it's far away? I understand you need some angle for viewing receivers.... but come on, seems EA is taking a easy way out or the engine doesn't allow this.
Anyone know if there will be other camera angles?
I also like the ability for the replay to run in the window on the right while you are selecting your next play but do you have to chose that manually each time? I thought that if I set it on instant replay it would stay on the instant replay tab but I have to set it ever time... LAME! My biggest complaint is the gameplay is really dull and NOT FUN once again. I really wish I could put my finger on it but I just can't figure out why it's not fun.
Like someone else pointed out, fatigue seems to be really over the top. I don't mind this that much and should make for interesting battles online (having to strategically use your bench) but just something to watch for. Guess EA didn't want to leave out fatigue like a couple of years ago LOL.
When subbing out players during the play calling screen it would be nice to have a more interactive feel like photos popping up on the right or the depth chart showing strengths or ratings etc. Also it would be a nice touch to have them jog onto the field or some way to make it feel like you subbed rather than just have the next screen your players breaking huddle with the new player magically there. Even the first Madden on the Genesis 1991 had this... I liked the way you could see your players jogging back to the huddle etc in All Pro 2K8 in the background while you called the play not just hiding the action on the field with playcalling screens etc like EA does. At least they don't do like last year and have a stupid pan of the stadiums during the playcalling screen.
I keep reminding myself when trying to have faith in EA BABY STEPS, BABY STEPS. This game is better than 08 but not revolutionary. If you liked 08 you will love 09. If you disliked 08 I think you will still be luke warm over 09.
I give the Demo a C+ and remain skeptical.
Biggest Positive: Graphics have a more 3-D look and shading is great.
Biggest Negative: Gameplay just seems stale and recycled from 07 and 08. I dare someone to say it's not the exact same gameplay.
# 223
SeventhWard @ 07/31/08 10:47 PM
Okay, so I've now played both the 360 and PS3 version of the demo. Based on my initial impressions, the 360 version looked slightly sharper and loaded slightly faster. Listen to me when I say it - the differences are extremely miniscule.
During the Madden IQ test, 360's characters looked sharper. Controls, sound and responsiveness were equal. During the gameplay, though both are pretty bad - the individual members of the crowd were slightly smoother on 360....the PS3 guys looked slightly more jagged. Minor minor details.
That ball animation smoothness during the replays I got excited about in my first post? So far, I've only seen the ball "pop" out on PS3, as well as other framerate hiccups...again, only during REPLAYS. During gameplay, they're both just as smooth.
If I could mention one flaw I hope isn't present in the final game - the sidelines are reversed. It's kinda funny to see the New York Giants sideline standing on a big Pats logo, and vice versa. Kinda reminds me of the old mistake from Madden 07 and 08 where your coach would be pissed if you made a great play and disappointed when you did something awesome.
It's very geeky of me, but I know it's important to other guys just as much as it is to me - but from this one man's opinion, the 360 gets the slightest visual edge.
I'll be buying the PS3 version however - the elegance (and silence) of the machine make for much nicer gaming sessions, regardless of the EXTREMELY MINOR visual differences....that may or may not even exist when the game goes retail.
During the Madden IQ test, 360's characters looked sharper. Controls, sound and responsiveness were equal. During the gameplay, though both are pretty bad - the individual members of the crowd were slightly smoother on 360....the PS3 guys looked slightly more jagged. Minor minor details.
That ball animation smoothness during the replays I got excited about in my first post? So far, I've only seen the ball "pop" out on PS3, as well as other framerate hiccups...again, only during REPLAYS. During gameplay, they're both just as smooth.
If I could mention one flaw I hope isn't present in the final game - the sidelines are reversed. It's kinda funny to see the New York Giants sideline standing on a big Pats logo, and vice versa. Kinda reminds me of the old mistake from Madden 07 and 08 where your coach would be pissed if you made a great play and disappointed when you did something awesome.
It's very geeky of me, but I know it's important to other guys just as much as it is to me - but from this one man's opinion, the 360 gets the slightest visual edge.
I'll be buying the PS3 version however - the elegance (and silence) of the machine make for much nicer gaming sessions, regardless of the EXTREMELY MINOR visual differences....that may or may not even exist when the game goes retail.
This demo makes NCAA look a generation or two behind. It's beautiful. It's also kind of hard to believe that both games are published by the same company because the difference is night and day.
The game play is what it is. The pass blocking still has some issues with picking up players and preventing them from having direct shots at the QB. I've had plenty of passing plays where the G and T just drop back blocking no one, and watch as the LB or DE run right in between them.
Other than that though, this game is a god send when compared to the rubbish that is NCAA. The AI on D seems to be in check and the running is game enjoyable, while still being challenging.
For me personally, the only set back this game could have is if the controls are not FULLY customizable. None of this X is locked or R1 is locked stuff please! If I want to pass with D-pad I should be able too, though that might be pushing it; but if I can't pick and choose what buttons strafe or speed burst on defensive, then this game is going back.
The game play is what it is. The pass blocking still has some issues with picking up players and preventing them from having direct shots at the QB. I've had plenty of passing plays where the G and T just drop back blocking no one, and watch as the LB or DE run right in between them.
Other than that though, this game is a god send when compared to the rubbish that is NCAA. The AI on D seems to be in check and the running is game enjoyable, while still being challenging.
For me personally, the only set back this game could have is if the controls are not FULLY customizable. None of this X is locked or R1 is locked stuff please! If I want to pass with D-pad I should be able too, though that might be pushing it; but if I can't pick and choose what buttons strafe or speed burst on defensive, then this game is going back.
This is hands down going to be the best Madden. The graphics are cooookie crisp, definitley the best I've seen in any sports game. The only thing bothering me is all the dropped passes.
Do you have to have Xbox Live Gold to download the 360 demo or is Xbox Live Silver enough?
Is there a waiting period if you have only Silver (I only have Silver right now)? I have to change some Network settings to get my Xbox 360 online right now. I don't want to do it if it is not available for Silver members yet. Thanks.
Is there a waiting period if you have only Silver (I only have Silver right now)? I have to change some Network settings to get my Xbox 360 online right now. I don't want to do it if it is not available for Silver members yet. Thanks.
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thats does not happen overnight.
# 228
nightcreeper @ 07/31/08 11:25 PM
im confused because i like the demo but then i dont maybe ill just have to wait until the real thing comes out
I'm disappointed with the demo. Not with the quality of the game, but I was hoping for a demo more similar to NCAA. This isn't just to complain, but I mean come on we barely get any feel for the game at all. For someone on the fence about getting the game this doesn't help.
NCAA was at least a shortened game letting you try running/passing/defense/etc. With this you don't really get to run the ball if you're trying to win the demo. The Madden IQ was cool I just wish we could see more.
NCAA was at least a shortened game letting you try running/passing/defense/etc. With this you don't really get to run the ball if you're trying to win the demo. The Madden IQ was cool I just wish we could see more.
lol rocket catch was one thing. but it seems like the WR's dont jump at all now. no attempt to catch the ball at it highest peak. hell i threw a fade route to plax he just stood there stuck to ground.
maybe i just need more time
maybe i just need more time
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SoMiss2000 @ 07/31/08 11:30 PM
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# 232
SoxFan01605 @ 07/31/08 11:41 PM
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What happen to enjoying games for what they were. ITS A GOT DAM GAME. All games have flaws. If you feel you dont want it dont buy. And As low as the economy is you can prob. use that $65.
This is VERY odd. I have my 360 hooked up to my widescreen PC monitor. I've never had a single problem. This demo, however, is stretching even FURTHER--- i have black bands at the top and bottom of my screen (widescreen effect) even though my monitor is naturally widescreen. I have no clue why this is happening or how to fix it. Thoughts?
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CaptainZombie @ 07/31/08 11:53 PM
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# 238
TheVinylHippo @ 07/31/08 11:55 PM
You can give me a warning, ban me, do whatever the hell you want, but this demo is pure laziness on EA's part.
We're hardcore people and we'll buy it, but if I'm a guy that just said, "What the hell, I'll download this", and I play this demo that wants me to buy this game, I'm not getting this game.
We're hardcore people and we'll buy it, but if I'm a guy that just said, "What the hell, I'll download this", and I play this demo that wants me to buy this game, I'm not getting this game.
I just played the ps3 demo. I realize it is a demo and not a finished product but overall I wasn't impressed. The game felt totally unlike anything I have played and that isn't always a good thing but might be over time.
The one good thing I have to say is that the graphics are amazing. Simply amazing.
On to the bad. There seemed to be a lot of lag in the controller. I would press buttons 2-3 times for something to execute. Where this was really bad was when I had a receiver wide open, no pressure on Manning, I would press the button and he wouldn't throw the ball! Nothing. A second or two later I was sacked. This happened numerous times.
The players seemed very "light". There just didn't seem to be any weight to them like in NCAA 09 or Madden 09.
I know I had other points to make but I'm really tired and I am gonna call it a night. I am going to play the demo again tommorow as well as try the 360 demo (it might feel different than the ps3 version to me) and over time hopefully my impression of the game will change. This demo is really making me want patch #2 for NCAA 09 to come out fast.
The one good thing I have to say is that the graphics are amazing. Simply amazing.
On to the bad. There seemed to be a lot of lag in the controller. I would press buttons 2-3 times for something to execute. Where this was really bad was when I had a receiver wide open, no pressure on Manning, I would press the button and he wouldn't throw the ball! Nothing. A second or two later I was sacked. This happened numerous times.
The players seemed very "light". There just didn't seem to be any weight to them like in NCAA 09 or Madden 09.
I know I had other points to make but I'm really tired and I am gonna call it a night. I am going to play the demo again tommorow as well as try the 360 demo (it might feel different than the ps3 version to me) and over time hopefully my impression of the game will change. This demo is really making me want patch #2 for NCAA 09 to come out fast.
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