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NCAA Football 09 Patch 2 Info (Pasta Padre)

05:11 PM - July 25, 2008 by callmetaternuts

Pasta Padre has posted some information on NCAA Football 09 patch #2.

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	"The roster editing patch is currently in certification at Microsoft and Sony. There is no specific day the patch will be approved and pushed out but it should not be too long now, possibly by the end of next week. The second patch, which is intended to improve different gameplay elements, is still in the evaluation period. Right now a reasonable expectation on when this patch will arrive is September. So far it will include fixes to sliders, improvements to kick/punt return coverage, and various tuning to areas such as zone coverages, man vs RBs, and strafe catching. There will be more included in the patch but as of now those are the things that are confirmed."

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# 141 therizing02 @ 07/27/08 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OMT


	I'm being lazy, avoiding lawn work, reading the board. But I can't answer a lot of this stuff cause I'm not at work and can't ask anyone to get answers I don't know. Actually, all of next week I'm going to be in day long training... can't wait to see all the posts of people saying I ran away!

Adam,

Try to track the guy responsible for allowing us 7 seconds to choose a play after the offense selects their formation. It was patched last year but it's screwed up again this year. Add this to the fact that the online lag has been God awful and it's almost unplayable online.

BTW, great work on the commentary this year! In my last game I heard the Braveheart line! Maybe it was in there last year but the commentary is better this year. Now just get rid of the "beep beep beep...."!

# 142 DrUrsus @ 07/27/08 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rudyjuly2


	I'm really enjoying AA right now. My biggest concern on that level (offline) is the lack of the cpu rushing attack. Once the sliders are fixed I should be able to address that. Fixing the punt returns should make the game fantastic (at least for me)!

I'm right there with ya on those sentiments.

# 143 DrUrsus @ 07/27/08 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawk76


	This is why you guys need to improve your quality control. As a consumer, I want the game working correctly at release, not a couple of months later after a patch. I know that no game will ever ship completely bug free, but it shouldn't have the major bugs and AI flaws that this game shipped with. I'm a fan of EA's FIFA and NHL games, and while they aren't perfect, they aren't released with the types of problems that seem to constantly plague the NCAA and Madden series. That makes me wonder what the EA Canada studio is doing that Tiburon isn't in order to insure quality control.

I agree.

# 144 DrUrsus @ 07/27/08 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rhombic21


	Again though, I would add this. They KNEW that the following issues were BIG problems with the game on June 1, and I know that they knew because I told several lead gameplay developers personally. - Kickoff returns/punt returns - Zones being messed up - Faulty Pass Rush - CPU never throwing deep - Bad man coverage on HBs - Stafe catching They knew they were going to release a patch that would address gameplay issues post-release (they told me this as well), and they very easily could have been working on fixing those issues in the month and a half prior to the game even being released.

Makes me think they did not agree with you, and made a conscious decision not to work on those things. Either they wanted "wide open gameplay" or were hoping everyone else would like the game as is so they wouldn't have to do any extra work on this game so they could move on and could start on 2010. But, we will not know unless they tell us what their intentions were.

By the way, how do you change your defense from locking onto a man like you could in the past? Or can you?

# 145 MegaHusker @ 07/27/08 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rhombic21


	I'm confused. Why does that take 3 months? I'm not asking why they weren't fixed in the ship version. I'm asking why the patch for NCAA that addresses gameplay issues comes out a month and a half to two months after release, while Madden has a gameplay patch, which apparently addresses a very similar set of issues, that comes out on the day of release? How does Madden get gameplay issues patched so quickly?

Because Madden is THE game for EA. It's their cash cow, and God forbid something goes wrong with that game. The NFL is the most popular sport in America today. Hence, Madden is the most popular video game EA has. You see on TV all the real athletes playing Madden. It's in movies, TV, hell its got its own televised tournament. The Madden Challenge is turning into the World Series of Poker meets The Real World. EA Sports' lifeblood revolves around that game, especially considering Madden is the only game you could say that was consistently the best title in its respective sport and genre.

In all seriousness, for a great majority of NCAA's life it has always taken a back seat to Madden. I'm sure the suits at EA still see it that way to an extent. Maybe its just me, but I remember in the 98-02 days it seemed like NCAA was a hand-me down of the previous years' Madden installment with some extra window dressing (ie: NCAA 01 was the bastard son of Madden 2000). For a long time NCAA was almost a niche game for a niche market, not as mass-marketable as Madden.

A few years ago that started to change as College Football reached an all time popularity high. NCAA was becoming its own game, different from Madden. The atmosphere, the option game, recruting, polls, bowl games and the BCS. Some of these things are what made me prefer the college game to the pros IRL, and in gaming too.

Face it, Madden has Madden as a spokesman. It's easily accessible by hardcore sim gamers and casual gamers. It has staying power. And its successes has allowed EA to become a titan in the gaming industry. This status gave them leverage to pull off the worst thing to ever happen to sports gaming: exclusive licenses. Now they can get away with releasing an inferior product. Think about it--at one time you could argue EA was #2 in the holy trinity of sports. NFL2K5 was a great game and many people preferred it to Madden. NBA 2k and College Hoops 2k are/were VASTLY superior to Live and March Madness. Don't get me started on baseball.

Now I'm deprived of College Hoops 2k, after 2k8 was possibly the best basketball game I ever played. But we are all going to have to get used to this as I doubt things will change. As long was a vast majority of the public is willing to shell out $60 for NCAA, EA won't have a reason to put out the best product possible.

# 146 bad_philanthropy @ 07/27/08 07:05 PM

It seems to me like next-gen platform technology in general has outpaced the actual tools to develop the games. We hear about how everything is more expensive and takes much longer to do, so it's unfortunate that tools don't exist to allow developers a process that is much more intuitive and streamlined and allows for a similar yield of productivity as last gen.

# 147 DrUrsus @ 07/27/08 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MegaHusker


	Because Madden is THE game for EA. It's their cash cow, and God forbid something goes wrong with that game. The NFL is the most popular sport in America today. Hence, Madden is the most popular video game EA has. You see on TV all the real athletes playing Madden. It's in movies, TV, hell its got its own televised tournament. The Madden Challenge is turning into the World Series of Poker meets The Real World. EA Sports' lifeblood revolves around that game, especially considering Madden is the only game you could say that was consistently the best title in its respective sport and genre. In all seriousness, for a great majority of NCAA's life it has always taken a back seat to Madden. I'm sure the suits at EA still see it that way to an extent. Maybe its just me, but I remember in the 98-02 days it seemed like NCAA was a hand-me down of the previous years' Madden installment with some extra window dressing (ie: NCAA 01 was the bastard son of Madden 2000). For a long time NCAA was almost a niche game for a niche market, not as mass-marketable as Madden. A few years ago that started to change as College Football reached an all time popularity high. NCAA was becoming its own game, different from Madden. The atmosphere, the option game, recruting, polls, bowl games and the BCS. Some of these things are what made me prefer the college game to the pros IRL, and in gaming too. Face it, Madden has Madden as a spokesman. It's easily accessible by hardcore sim gamers and casual gamers. It has staying power. And its successes has allowed EA to become a titan in the gaming industry. This status gave them leverage to pull off the worst thing to ever happen to sports gaming: exclusive licenses. Now they can get away with releasing an inferior product. Think about it--at one time you could argue EA was #2 in the holy trinity of sports. NFL2K5 was a great game and many people preferred it to Madden. NBA 2k and College Hoops 2k are/were VASTLY superior to Live and March Madness. Don't get me started on baseball. Now I'm deprived of College Hoops 2k, after 2k8 was possibly the best basketball game I ever played. But we are all going to have to get used to this as I doubt things will change. As long was a vast majority of the public is willing to shell out $60 for NCAA, EA won't have a reason to put out the best product possible.

I agree years ago it was the Madden bastage child and had more in common with the previous years Madden with a more college feel.

Yes, I think Madden will always get priority since it is their flagship title. They did really mess up Madden last year and it was a stinker in my opinion. I hated that Madden more than any ever made.

And Yes, exclusive licenses stink when EA has them and when 2K has one (baseball). Competition will always make things better in my opinion.

# 148 oukingpen @ 07/27/08 08:35 PM

Thank god. I'm pretty easy going about playability but this game is really frustrating. The AI is terrible.

# 149 MegaHusker @ 07/27/08 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by stevedrumsdw


	As a consumer I would tend to think that it is EA's obligation to imform us of broken concepts in their games prior to release. Especially when basic gameplay functions are defective making the game unplayable. It is false advertising to have prior knowledge of a products disfunction without informing the public. I appreciate the work that goes into the game, and some of the new features are nice, but good Lord when it is this screwed up we should be aware prior to release.

They really aren't false advertising, because in their eyes the concepts are NOT broken. I appreciate all the work OMT and the rest of the designers due, but the suits that make the decisions wanted the game this way IMO. Not the bugs...those are going to be fixed with the patches.

Its the things are the most fundamentally wrong with the game that I think they wanted. Many people have started to figure this out. The KR/PRs are going to be fixed, but I don't think EA consider those a problem. Same with offensive speed cheats, pursuit angles, easily broken tackles, and lack of pass rush and zone coverage. EA promised "Wide Open Gameplay" and they delivered. So in a sense they are advertising 100% truthfully.

Just be prepared for NCAA 10 when gameplay is slanted the other way-- "Lockdown Defense Returns!". Hit Stick will knock the ball loose every time, press coverage will allow 70 rated CBs to hold 99 WRs on the LOS for 5 seconds, and there will be no pocket for the QB because the OL will be on their rears all day.

# 150 BobbyZ23 @ 07/27/08 11:48 PM

It's nice to see that they are working on patches, but what about those of us that don't have X-Box Live or Playstation Network? Are we stuck with a broken game?

# 151 gsus8091 @ 07/28/08 01:06 AM

Okay, so I guess no patches yet.......****!! Anyway, with this patch, I'm sure major issues will be patched. Surely not all of them and roster editing seems to be the highest priority, but I have this feeling that NCAA will stil be with major bugs even with the first patch being downloaded. Soooooooo, when do you think the 2nd patch will be released or a good estimate of when?

The first patch on any video rarely fixs the game to the point of our liking. Just look at COD4. they took at least 4 to get where they are and they were still working with a legendary product. I just don't think that NCAA will take us to the next gen level until next year at the least. If there are already bugs and gltiches that are ruining our experience some I would be sure of will not be fixable. So I have this sick feeling that no matter how many patches that will be issued still won't have the desired effect on NCAA 09. The game was born cripple and no matter how times it goes into surgery it will always be crippled.

# 152 The Chef @ 07/28/08 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gsus8091


	Okay, so I guess no patches yet.......****!! Anyway, with this patch, I'm sure major issues will be patched. Surely not all of them and roster editing seems to be the highest priority, but I have this feeling that NCAA will stil be with major bugs even with the first patch being downloaded. Soooooooo, when do you think the 2nd patch will be released or a good estimate of when? The first patch on any video rarely fixs the game to the point of our liking. Just look at COD4. they took at least 4 to get where they are and they were still working with a legendary product. I just don't think that NCAA will take us to the next gen level until next year at the least. If there are already bugs and gltiches that are ruining our experience some I would be sure of will not be fixable. So I have this sick feeling that no matter how many patches that will be issued still won't have the desired effect on NCAA 09. The game was born cripple and no matter how times it goes into surgery it will always be crippled.

Im going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you just missed it in the multiple areas its posted and talked about. The second patch is supposed to hit anywhere between August and September, they cant give a definite answer since there are other things and people in play so its wait and see for the time being.

The roster patch sounds like it should be soon since I believe they reported that its in the hands of Sony and Microsoft at this point to be approved to go live to us.

# 153 Skyboxer @ 07/28/08 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pared


	...? I played a game last night and Tebow ran all over me. This was on AA. I was actually impressed that the CPU called a few QB Draws and he took off when there was pressure. I am playing with sliders, however.

Same here. I watched Tebow run for 100+ on a friend. This was also AA level with adjusted sliders.

# 154 rudyjuly2 @ 07/28/08 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BobbyZ23


	It's nice to see that they are working on patches, but what about those of us that don't have X-Box Live or Playstation Network? Are we stuck with a broken game?

You don't have internet? That's all you need for the PS3 is to get updates.

# 155 SteelerSpartan @ 07/28/08 09:17 AM

I should have known gameplay problems like these were coming after reading what Moore said in that interview...essentially wanting to make these game more casual. I just hope the sim-crowds outcry's were enough to sway Ian and that starting with Madden 09...more effort will be put in to features that sim players want.

# 156 BobbyZ23 @ 07/28/08 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by rudyjuly2


	You don't have internet? That's all you need for the PS3 is to get updates.

It's painful to say, but my only internet option is dial-up. My wife and I moved to the country about three months ago and there is no DSL or cable internet available here. Needless to say, I miss online gaming very much. Not just gaming with my friends, but also downloading patches, demos and system updates. Oh well, the price you pay for clean air, low crime, and quiet solitude. Thank god for DirecTV. :P

# 157 Skyboxer @ 07/28/08 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BobbyZ23


	It's painful to say, but my only internet option is dial-up. My wife and I moved to the country about three months ago and there is no DSL or cable internet available here. Needless to say, I miss online gaming very much. Not just gaming with my friends, but also downloading patches, demos and system updates. Oh well, the price you pay for clean air, low crime, and quiet solitude. Thank god for DirecTV. :P

In all honesty...you're probably the lucky one. Anyways to get updates all you need is an online connection and you can get the updates for either 360 or PS3. Any plce near you could just take you system to and plug it up for a few minutes?

# 158 rudyjuly2 @ 07/28/08 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BobbyZ23


	It's painful to say, but my only internet option is dial-up. My wife and I moved to the country about three months ago and there is no DSL or cable internet available here. Needless to say, I miss online gaming very much. Not just gaming with my friends, but also downloading patches, demos and system updates. Oh well, the price you pay for clean air, low crime, and quiet solitude. Thank god for DirecTV. :P

Sorry. That sucks. It would be nice if you could buy a CD from EA with the patch info on it for those stuck this scenario. I think Adam (OMT) already said that probably won't happen though.

The next time you go visit anyone, bring your system along and download that sucker if they have DSL!

# 159 muggins @ 07/28/08 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rudyjuly2


	Sorry. That sucks. It would be nice if you could buy a CD from EA with the patch info on it for those stuck this scenario. I think Adam (OMT) already said that probably won't happen though. The next time you go visit anyone, bring your system along and download that sucker if they have DSL!

yeah, just plan a trip in October for your NCAA patches. Hell, tell the old lady she can visit a friend as long as said friend has an HDTV.

# 160 ehh @ 07/28/08 10:44 AM

Don't know if this has been stated but does anyone know if we'll have to restart dynasties after the second patch comes out?

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