ACQB M10 Franchise Game Discussion/Ish-Talking Thread

[TombSong]

Quote: Originally Posted by ANDROMADA 1

My take on the game from last night and how it relates to Madden 10...I figured you guys would appreciate it over here. Happy reading http://www.operationsports.com/ANDRO...and-heres-why/

Al you did was invert reality with this game. You took rare plays in reality and plugged them in with what happens all to frequently in Madden. Its not just the star players in madden that do what you saw, its all of them.

Do you think people with 150+ yards a game in our franchise is "realistic" also even though I dont see that in the real NFL ?
You cant throw to WR's on the right going inside and you cant throw to WRs on the left trying to go outside. You cant throw fades or streaks when its appropriate because they never really get open....no seperation.

Not once last night did I see centers and guards stand up and turn their back to the LOS and not block anyone. I did not see 5 ducks go flying in the air when the QB got hit while throwing. I also did not see CB's running the route of the WR BEFORE the WR ran the route. I do see that in madden though.

The game is broken. Hopefully after the patches all this stuff will be addressed, however right now no one can justify the gameplay I am seeing in this game. It is better than last year in some areas but its still a borken game.

[RogueHominid]

Quote: Originally Posted by TombSong

Al you did was invert reality with this game. You took rare plays in reality and plugged them in with what happens all to frequently in Madden. Its not just the star players in madden that do what you saw, its all of them. Do you think people with 150+ yards a game in our franchise is "realistic" also even though I dont see that in the real NFL ? You cant throw to WR's on the right going inside and you cant throw to WRs on the left trying to go outside. You cant throw fades or streaks when its appropriate because they never really get open....no seperation. Not once last night did I see centers and guards stand up and turn their back to the LOS and not block anyone. I did not see 5 ducks go flying in the air when the QB got hit while throwing. I also did not see CB's running the route of the WR BEFORE the WR ran the route. I do see that in madden though. The game is broken. Hopefully after the patches all this stuff will be addressed, however right now no one can justify the gameplay I am seeing in this game. It is better than last year in some areas but its still a borken game.

Man, Tomb, I just don't see it. To me the language of "broken" games has become so overused that it loses its meaning. I read most statements using it as hyperbole anymore.

Certain things need tuning, sure (like how often the QB flutters the ball while getting hit--it happens too much in M10), but I hardly think the game is "broken."

The OL stuff can be wonky at times, but it also works just fine lots of the time. And the WR stuff isn't true in my experience. I've had my speedsters get open on streaks, and I've had others get open on me. Sure they don't blow by guys by 10 yards or more like in APF, but that's a good thing, imo.

And maybe it's just me, but playing in OF with this crowd takes a good game and makes it great. I just don't comprehend the negativity, and it's not because I'm Polyanna. I'd feel differently, I think, if I played randoms or offline franchise, but this is what I play and I can't get enough of it!

[ANDROMADA 1]

Quote: Originally Posted by TombSong

Al you did was invert reality with this game. You took rare plays in reality and plugged them in with what happens all to frequently in Madden. Its not just the star players in madden that do what you saw, its all of them. Do you think people with 150+ yards a game in our franchise is "realistic" also even though I dont see that in the real NFL ? You cant throw to WR's on the right going inside and you cant throw to WRs on the left trying to go outside. You cant throw fades or streaks when its appropriate because they never really get open....no seperation. Not once last night did I see centers and guards stand up and turn their back to the LOS and not block anyone. I did not see 5 ducks go flying in the air when the QB got hit while throwing. I also did not see CB's running the route of the WR BEFORE the WR ran the route. I do see that in madden though. The game is broken. Hopefully after the patches all this stuff will be addressed, however right now no one can justify the gameplay I am seeing in this game. It is better than last year in some areas but its still a borken game.

thanks for the reply

I dont think the game is "broken" by any measure.Did I pick out specific plays?Sure I did.Does it happen all the time?no.Do a lot of the plays that happen in Madden happen in the NFL?Yes.Also I saw a couple of times where the Guards and Tackle not only didnt block anyone they didnt get a hand on any body,and when they did it was only for a split second.And as for your comment about the route running I would have to say look againg...I saw pass plays where it looked like the DB WAS the intended reciever and ran a better route than said Wr,it looked like it was choreographed...lol but I digress.I know what I saw and gave my opinion of it relating to this game(M10)to each his own.

[RogueHominid]

Live messages containing invites to rejoin have been sent out to Tree, Phobia, and Doc (when he returns on Tues.). Hop back on ASAP, guys.

Tree has a tendency to go off the radar, and hasn't accepted his invite to rejoin or corresponded with me, so I will consider a replacement for the Bungles.

Phobia has been busy, as we know, with other stuff, but if you have a game vs. Buf, try to wait it out till he rejoins.

Also, I can see how many times a game has been started in OF, so if you start it more than once, you owe me an explanation, especially if it's a game vs. the CPU. You get my drift.

[Phobia]

Hey Andro

My girl is bugging my to go shopping at the mall. I have not been to that hell hole in about 5 years. So I am pretty stuck going there. I know it closes at 9pm central time. But I doubt we would be there that long.

I just wanted to see if later tonight around 9 or 10 central time is fine with you??? It is gonna be raining here all weekend which means I am going to be in the house all weekend. So let me know if this works for you bro.

Chicks don't understand commitment to a video game. This is how it went this morning when I was getting ready for work.

Me: "Babe, I got a game scheduled tonight. Some time after work"

Her: "Seriously?? I wanted to do something tonight. We been stuck in the house all week"

Me: "What do u wanna do? "

Her: "I don't know......something"

Me: "Alright, but I got to get the game in tonight."

[Phobia]

Quote: Originally Posted by The Autumn Wind

Live messages containing invites to rejoin have been sent out to Tree, Phobia, and Doc (when he returns on Tues.). Hop back on ASAP, guys. Tree has a tendency to go off the radar, and hasn't accepted his invite to rejoin or corresponded with me, so I will consider a replacement for the Bungles. Phobia has been busy, as we know, with other stuff, but if you have a game vs. Buf, try to wait it out till he rejoins. Also, I can see how many times a game has been started in OF, so if you start it more than once, you owe me an explanation, especially if it's a game vs. the CPU. You get my drift.

Yea me and Andro been talking. We were going to do it last night but both agreed we wanted to watch the game. So we scheduled it tonight.

[boxboy99]

Sounds like you been having a rough time lately Phobia, ya I hate it when the girl drags me shopping since its an hour just to get there from where I live.

Good write up Andromada, I agree with most of what you said, the game just needs tuned and physics need better respect. Routes definatly get jumped in the nfl, I would like to see some better separation ability (not as much as 2k though). I want smarter blocking and a little faster blitz. Maybe I just need to work on my blitx schemes but it seems to hard to get sacks or pressure. I rarely ever take a sack, Pappy got a couple on me but those were most coverage sacks that I rarely see. Overall the game is a blast right now. Actually having some fun in quick games, I won one last night on a kickoff return for a TD

Anyways should be a fun weekend, going to the Toledo-Colorado game tonight and ready to watch the Bucks-USC game tomorrow.

[sportyguyfl31]

Quote: Originally Posted by TombSong

Al you did was invert reality with this game. You took rare plays in reality and plugged them in with what happens all to frequently in Madden. Its not just the star players in madden that do what you saw, its all of them. Do you think people with 150+ yards a game in our franchise is "realistic" also even though I dont see that in the real NFL ? You cant throw to WR's on the right going inside and you cant throw to WRs on the left trying to go outside. You cant throw fades or streaks when its appropriate because they never really get open....no seperation. Not once last night did I see centers and guards stand up and turn their back to the LOS and not block anyone. I did not see 5 ducks go flying in the air when the QB got hit while throwing. I also did not see CB's running the route of the WR BEFORE the WR ran the route. I do see that in madden though. The game is broken. Hopefully after the patches all this stuff will be addressed, however right now no one can justify the gameplay I am seeing in this game. It is better than last year in some areas but its still a borken game.

College football isnt like this, and it really puzzles me why. In NCAA, a WR can get sepration down the field.

The few times Ive seen a deep ball get completed on a streak, or a wheel route, they have all been Larry fitzgerald like, jump balls.

Ive used the Bucs, and Randy Moss does not get by Ronde Barber. He'll absolutely run from him on a drag, or curl, but not a fly route.




I enjoy the game overall, but the things that I see when I try to throw the ball vertically outside of the numbers, is really hacking me off.

The phantom interceptions, really bother me..both for me, and against. If you press Y, in the vicinity of the intended receiver, the chances of morphing into a INT are pretty solid.