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Old 10-03-2008, 06:55 PM   #113
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Greg Maddux. He's had a pretty decent career. Only one of the best ever, you know.

He's started 30 games in the postseason. He has a 3.32 ERA in the process. What was his ERA in his first five postseason starts?

7.00. That trend was so bad, he just kept pitching poorly in the postseason, didn't he?
Out of 15 postseason trips, how many did the Braves win? Of course I don't put that on Maddux as he was in his prime during those years; more of the blame goes to Bobby Cox and his "use" of the bullpen...Smoltzie was the premier postseason pitcher. In fact, didn't he call the 1st Mil/Phi game?

The reason CC faultered was that he'd thrown nearly 400 pitches in 12 days. A big fat guy can't handle that...I mean I get tired after walking up 4 flights of stairs
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Old 10-03-2008, 07:00 PM   #114
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I like how you use this word "trend." Try sketching a "trend" line with four data points and see how accurate it looks.

"He changes the way he thinks?" What, is he your roommate now and he told you this?

Four bad starts. Four. I'm running out of ideas.

Greg Maddux. He's had a pretty decent career. Only one of the best ever, you know.

He's started 30 games in the postseason. He has a 3.32 ERA in the process. What was his ERA in his first five postseason starts?

7.00. That trend was so bad, he just kept pitching poorly in the postseason, didn't he?
CC is an emotional pitcher. You can see on the mound when he starts losing it. He starts stomping his feet and changes the way he throws. He goes from a pitcher to a thrower. He tries to overpower everyone instead of setting up his other pitches. Pretty much anyone who has watched him throw over the past 3 years could tell he becomes a different pitcher on the mound in the postseason.

But these 5 games mean nothing, you're right.
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Old 10-03-2008, 07:05 PM   #115
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Out of 15 postseason trips, how many did the Braves win? Of course I don't put that on Maddux as he was in his prime during those years; more of the blame goes to Bobby Cox and his "use" of the bullpen...Smoltzie was the premier postseason pitcher. In fact, didn't he call the 1st Mil/Phi game?

The reason CC faultered was that he'd thrown nearly 400 pitches in 12 days. A big fat guy can't handle that...I mean I get tired after walking up 4 flights of stairs
I'm not sure what you mean. Out of the fifteen times the Braves went to the playoffs? Maddux had a 11-13 record over that span, but his ERA was 2.81, so I don't think you can criticize him at all for that. He started 8-4. I guess the Braves offense was better during the early-mid 1990s.

I agree with everything else you said. And yeah, that was Smoltz, even though he admittedly hates the Phillies. I'm surprised they let him call that game.
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Old 10-03-2008, 08:09 PM   #116
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And yeah, that was Smoltz, even though he admittedly hates the Phillies. I'm surprised they let him call that game.
Yeah, I find it extremely odd that the Brewers' regular TV announcer and an Atlanta Braves player are on the call for this series.
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Old 10-03-2008, 08:28 PM   #117
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Yeah, I find it extremely odd that the Brewers' regular TV announcer and an Atlanta Braves player are on the call for this series.
I was at both games, so I didn't get to hear him. How'd he do?
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Old 10-03-2008, 09:04 PM   #118
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I was at both games, so I didn't get to hear him. How'd he do?
He did well; Joe Simpson also color commentated and he regularly does the Braves broadcasts on Turner South...I figured since TBS is a Ted Turner production that's why he and Smoltzie called it.

About Maddux I wasn't saying anything in particular against him; he won usually about 18-19 games annualy and pitched well during the postseason...but his record in the playoffs is IMO a tribute to Bobby Cox's porous decisions in the pen rather than Maddux

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Old 10-04-2008, 08:26 PM   #119
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Looks like Brian Runge wants to see a game 4 tomorrow.
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Old 10-04-2008, 11:14 PM   #120
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And the Brewers force a game 4. I thought Sveum was too quick with the hook on Dave Bush but it worked out for him and the team. Crazy 9th to end it, that was a pretty ugly play by Victorino.
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