An in-depth comparison of The Show and Pro Yakyuu Spirits (for anyone who cares)

[saintjimbo1885]

Sadly, the more I play The Show the more frustrated I get with it and the more it feels like a random number generator.


The whole PCI thing is laughable as the amount of times I foul off pitches when it is nowhere near the ball is too many to count and yet with the very next pitch my PCI just misses the ball and yet it is a swing and a miss.


There are actually a lot of examples in The Show that highlight that it the CPU system that mostly decides the outcome not the user, essentially making it a forced simulator which is ok but doesn't half make it frustrating when your player has good timing, contact etc. yet the end result is that dribbler in front of home plate.


Likewise the whole ball physics system needs addressed so that the PCI actually represents something meaningful ie. I shouldn't be hitting home runs if the PCI is above the ball.


At times the show just feels completely scripted to me (fielding errors, pitcher suddenly can't hit the strike zone etc) and while yes it may replicate real life better, this is because the under the hood gameplay algorithims are forcing it upon you.

PYS isn't without its faults either, especially the fact the CPU hardly throws any balls if you use the pitch cursor and the lack of camera angles is also surprisng but I tend to find myself playing it more and more these days. Just a pity Konami couldn't make an English translated version so that I can enjoy all the stuff I don't understand... here's hoping we might see this on the PS4.

Can't wait to see what both games produce on the PS4 though!!

[Manny_Shevitz]

Quote: Originally Posted by lhslancers

Hey Manny what is the last MLB The Show that you have played?

The last one that I bought was '12, which I believe was the year that they overhauled the ball physics engine. The improved ball physics that year definitely made the game look and feel better, but it didn't really do anything to make the batting feel different, or less scripted. I tried sticking with it for a few months, but ultimately lost interest. I tried playing '13 a few times in demo kiosks, but felt it didn't really offer anything new.

I'm not really trying to bash The Show. I think it continues to be exactly the kind of baseball game that the developers want it to be, and there are certainly enough fans who agree, and enjoy the way it plays. And I'm sure the PS4 version will bring huge visual improvements, and continue to polish the sim-like gameplay. It's just not for me. I don't like the way it plays.

[Lap_Down]

Hmmm... for my PYS4 season I am currently 22 - 9... which I think is similar to my MLB12 season in which I remember only having 5 loses through the first 30 or so games.

Tried MLB13 again... I still like Pure Analog batting in that game, but I prefer pitching and fielding in PYS. Actually, I like the batting in PYS better too... it is just more conducive to my style of hitting. Ever since MLB '98 all I pretty much do is wait for an inside pitch to turn on and PYS is like built for that type of play style I think... I'm pretty sure I have only ever used the slap hit button once in the game.

I also think I just like the sounds of PYS better... like that is the first thing I noticed when I played MLB13 again... I really missed the sounds of Japanese baseball... the ball of the bat... the crowd... the announcers... stuff like that.

Quote: Originally Posted by saintjimbo1885

Konami couldn't make an English translated version so that I can enjoy all the stuff I don't understand...

Yah, there are just so many screens I just don't understand what is going on... like meters increasing as I get points after every game and stuff... and sometimes I get missions... and it is so hard for me to remember what Kanji is what since I love keeping track of stats. I just play the baseball game part and pretty much skip over everything else... which I'm sure is bad since one of my guys has had a sad face symbol now for like... ever.

[lhslancers]

Even an idiot can change his mind. I had put PYS on the shelf until I picked up PYS13 last month. Don't get me wrong I think TS is a great game but I am not a fan of the new hitting timing window at all. Russell said that they were not going to go back to the more difficult window from 12 in the future so I figured I would see what PYS had to offer.

13 is just so much better than any other previous version that if you are on the fence about this series you owe it to yourself to check it out.

The bottom line for me is I can play a game of TS. PYS I can play game after game. Next up 2014.

[KBLover]

Is PYS13 less expensive now?

I know it's a very solid game - just can't spend $90 on a game.

[jyoung]

Quote: Originally Posted by KBLover

Is PYS13 less expensive now? I know it's a very solid game - just can't spend $90 on a game.

PYS 2013 is down to $30 on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Japan-Baseball...=operasport-20

[esdot404]

Quote: Originally Posted by jyoung

PYS 2013 is down to $30 on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Japan-Baseball...=operasport-20

That's a steal for anyone that is on the fence of getting this game. I made the purchase for the first time on PYS2013 last year and it was totally worth it. For anyone looking to buy a solid game this price is definitely not bad. I still play my copy regularly, it has been one of the games I have played the most.