OS Roundtable: Madden NFL 13 Demo Impressions

[reMicXz]

i just love the fact that when announced everyone went ape**** over the physics, and all the while i KNEW 100% this would happen. thats what happens when you let the games aesthetics get the best of you i'll be buying it no doubt about it as i feel its better than this years NCAA which was a complete carbon copy of the 2012 release which i also didnt like. i can see most of this years sliders will be posted with Slow speed, but Very Slow is actually even a little more solid. suggest some people try it anything over Slow is pretty bad which is upsetting. Would like to see a game out the box be playable.

[Big FN Deal]

Quote: Originally Posted by Moegames

wow..i am quite surprised by the entire impressions from each of the writers here. I must say i totally disagree that the game feels like the same old madden..i't feels to me like a fresh madden to me. We all got our opinions and this write up does not make it correct by any means nor do my personal opinions but this is the first time in years where the demo has been keeping me coming back for more and that says a lot because i couldn't stand any madden demo's the last 5-6 years, same when the final retail came out...this year its entirely different for me..it feels fresh and exciting to play finally. The way i always felt is if the game is fun for "YOU" than that's all that matters because going by another person's impressions..too many times have led me to miss out on a game that later i found out to be quite fun. Go by your own feelings of the game i say and take another man's opinion as a grain of salt because at the end of the day..that is all it is, a grain of salt. I wont go through everything i like about this year's madden..i already did in the demo impressions but i truly enjoy the demo and i know the final will be more of what i already had a taste of but a bit more fine tuned.

The odd thing is that although I am disappointed by the player movement not being addressed to compliment the IE and I was underwhelmed when first playing the demo, I still have the urge to play the game again because I expect to see different things happen. So in that regard, with the IE, catch animations and read n react causing some new but not always well done things to occur, M13 is an improvement over M12.

Now the true test will of course come when I get the retail and head into online ranked games because those guys can ruin a wet dream, lol. In fact, it might be best if I completely avoid online ranked but I enjoy trying to play on Virgin Gaming and those tournaments can only be played through online ranked mode. Every year I just keep hoping that I can actually compete playing football but no mas thus far.

[Jimi XIII]

Quote: Originally Posted by garnettfan

is it me or the world gone stupid this engine is no good at all madden is ncaa 13 with ragdoll physics this is the worst football game ever well tie with madden 09,07

The engine is 100 times better than suction tackling and unstoppable animation sequences that automatically give you a gain or lose depending on the animation triggered.

Most of the issues with Infinity are cosmetic, with past Madden's it was visual and also effected the game-play GREATLY in a negative way nearly every play.

[jfsolo]

Quote: Originally Posted by roadman

I agree with part of it, but not all of it. The part I agree with is some new quirks. I don't grade things that aren't in the game and know that they aren't in the game. Again, back to each their own.

Discounting the people who will always hate Madden because of EA's business decisions, and the ones who will always love it because... it's Madden football, this is always going to be the main schism amongst people on OS who ultimately want the same thing.

"This is what the game is, can I enjoy it and get my money's worth with what is present."

versus

"This is what is missing, can I enjoy it and get my money's worth with what they've left out."

These two camps are not going to see eye to eye and that's just how it's going to be.

[rangerrick012]

Quote: Originally Posted by StrawHat Patriot

I never said the presentation was a joke. I said the post game and halftime show were a joke. And that's the reason why it's hard to feel immersed by the pregame cinematic intro.

I think that's a bad way of looking at it TBH. They have made big strides in the presentation dept and should get credit for what they've added there, not be penalized for what's still missing/not there.

Trust me I've been highly critical of the Madden team in years past. There's a reason why I haven't bought a Madden since '10. I also don't frequent the Madden section on here that much, but one thing I do notice is how hard people are on this game and how some won't let go of the disappointment of it not being what they want it to be.

You can't please everyone. Would I love to have a full halftime/postgame w/ highlights? Of course I would. But I'm at the point now with the improvements that they've made, I can overlook not having them. I guess that's what the disconnect is, some people understandably frustrated w/ things not being in (when they were present in games put out 8 years ago) Like I said I used to be that way, but I realize that I can enjoy that game for what it was but not hold it against Madden for not having those things on the presentation end.

[FAM CEO]

Quote: Originally Posted by jfsolo

Discounting the people who will always hate Madden because of EA's business decisions, and the ones who will always love it because... it's Madden football, this is always going to be the main schism amongst people on OS who ultimately want the same thing. "This is what the game is, can I enjoy it and get my money's worth with what is present." versus "This is what is missing, can I enjoy it and get my money's worth with what they've left out." These two camps are not going to see eye to eye and that's just how it's going to be.

I couldnt agree more. Madden is making strides and that is all i can ask. I love the new features and am very excited to get the retail copy. I understand that unfortunately EA will never bridge the gap from your 2 quoted examples. That is not there goal. I for one look at games as games and to try and simulate a sports game to the realist is a challenge. The demo was good in my eyes and will look to the positives they tried to relay to us consumers.

8/24 couldnt get here any sooner and my wife will hate when it does, but game on.

[btemp]

Quote: Originally Posted by FAM CEO

I couldnt agree more. Madden is making strides and that is all i can ask. I love the new features and am very excited to get the retail copy. I understand that unfortunately EA will never bridge the gap from your 2 quoted examples. That is not there goal. I for one look at games as games and to try and simulate a sports game to the realist is a challenge. The demo was good in my eyes and will look to the positives they tried to relay to us consumers.

But we disagree on what "strides" mean. I see minor, largely cosmetic improvements backed by a large marketing campaign that hide massive, fundamental flaws in gameplay. You see a game that is definitely moving in the right direction and that works for you (and doesn't work for me).

[GiantBlue76]

Quote: Originally Posted by RGiles36

**offers virtual handshake** Not enough of us seem to care about presentation anymore. Glad some still do .

After reading through this entire thread, I had to respond to this one Russ . As a guy who is mainly concerned with gameplay and the football on the field, I admittedly am not a HUGE presentation guy. That being said, It DOES come into play when they deliver something that I didn't know I cared about. What is baffling to me is how Tiburon continues to invent their own broadcast. It's not that appealing because it's not like anything we would see in real life. The success of 2k's presentation in their sports games comes from them replicating what we see on TV. In the case of 2k5, it was ESPN and NBA 2k is TNT. Everything is done superbly with all of the small details like the overlay graphics done just like their real life counterparts. Tiburon continues to invent the EA sports broadcast, which does not make a lasting impression because it's not what we see and relate to on Sundays. Not to mention, there's no difference between a Sunday Night game, a day game or a Monday night game. This really goes back to what Ryan36 said a while back. A good company gives the consumer what they didn't know they wanted. In this case, you mention that not many people care about presentation. However, I disagree. They don't care about EA Sports' presentation. They want authentic presentation, and this is not it.