The more videos I watch, the less I seem to see the impact of the Infinity engine

[bukktown]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

At this point is where I start to agree with Scoonie5, of all people, that at what point do we stop acting surprised about this stuff. I engage in discussion about this stuff in hopes that someone will present a POV that somehow makes these things make sense for developing Madden into the most realistic NFL video game to date, like EA/Tiburon claims they want to. However, that may also be playing right into part of some ingenious marketing plan to keep us engaged with Madden by promising realism but intentionally falling just short. No matter how many good points anyone makes about why Madden should be more NFL realistic than what it is, it will not change the fact that Madden is whatever it is.

About 2 years ago...

[bichettehappens]

Quote: Originally Posted by N51_rob

It's not that I care about cadences, but I am confused. I thought that EA and Josh Looman stated that they were not going to be putting in half complete features in Madden anymore? 12 out of 32 is less than half. EA even had RGIII there for a photo shoot, so I would imagine that he should be one of the 32, but probably isn't. So if you take out the two rookies who will start it is still 12 is still not half of 30. So which is it? We are not going to put in half way complete features, or we will when we can market it?

I don't know about comments from any other EA developers, but in the case of Josh Looman I believe he was referring to Connected Careers-specific features. At least that's how I had interpreted it.

But still, a valid point.

[Stampede_94]

Quote: Originally Posted by bukktown

About 2 years ago...

I dig big's quite, and yes we all need to stop buying into this and just mod our retail copies of 08 on pc to get what we want lol.

[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by ozzy57

for some reason too many people bash EA and then continually point to a game that is considered sub par since 2K9 go look at forums and look back

[Stampede_94]

Quote: Originally Posted by SageInfinite

LOL. NBA 2K just keeps getting better and better. Sure the AI cheats, but so do bionic linebackers stopping every other pass.

[Big FN Deal]

Quote: Originally Posted by bukktown

About 2 years ago...

OS is supposed to be about constructive criticism, which imo is the best kind of criticism because anything else is basically just complaining and venting. So at the point we realize that our intended constructive criticism is not having the desired effect, it's essentially no longer constructive. I am currently having a dilemma in how to approach discussions about improving Madden because I apparently want a different game then EA/Tiburon is going to provide. However, the problem is that EA/Tiburon takes every opportunity to claim that they are trying to provide that game, which is simply not backed up by the facts.

So I really understand the EAGCs and CE attendees stance of doing the best they can with what they have to work with but it sucks realizing that EA/Tiburon is way more cunning than me. lol. They have us right by the short and curlies because for them it's all about money but for us it's about personal enjoyment. So they essentially were able to corner the market on a pastime in NFL gaming and then do whatever they see fit to make the most money with it. Now I see how Neo felt in The Matrix, when he woke and realized in the real world he was just a dispensable organic battery. lol

[scoonie05]

Quote: Originally Posted by ozzy57

How about how centers can run or out run point guards for some reason too many people bash EA and then continually point to a game that is considered sub par since 2K9 go look at forums and look back EA and 2K constantly take out features and make changes. I'm not going to be mad at EA for getting an exclusive license to make money just like I'm not mad at Coca Cola for not giving out their recipe. I do think Madden games need a lot of improvement. I think CC and IE are steps in the right direction

Yes, chandler will catch westbrook from behind on a fast break and block his shot "lebron style". LOL I think they'll bring back crew and name it something else like EA do

[Stampede_94]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

OS is supposed to be about constructive criticism, which imo is the best kind of criticism because anything else is basically just complaining and venting. So at the point we realize that our intended constructive criticism is not having the desired effect, it's essentially no longer constructive. I am currently having a dilemma in how to approach discussions about improving Madden because I apparently want a different game then EA/Tiburon is going to provide. However, the problem is that EA/Tiburon takes every opportunity to claim that they are trying to provide that game, which is simply not backed up by the facts. So I really understand the EAGCs and CE attendees stance of doing the best they can with what they have to work with but it sucks realizing that EA/Tiburon is way more cunning than me. lol. They have us right by the short and curlies because for them it's all about money but for us it's about personal enjoyment. So they essentially were able to corner the market on a pastime in NFL gaming and then do whatever they see fit to make the most money with it. Now I see how Neo felt in The Matrix, when he woke and realized in the real world he was just a dispensable organic battery. lol

If you don't have a blog on your views of EA/Tiburon, then by all means start one bro. You pretty much put it perfectly and composed what most of us sputter to get out because we are frustrated after years of dealing with the same issues from this company.