Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 12: The Masters Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here

[Flightwhite24]

After messing with the demo this week I am looking forward to getting this years installment. Not that big a fan of some of the changes but I can overlook it. Heck it's Golf

Let the early searching begin!!!!

[JayhawkerStL]

Quote: Originally Posted by Lieutenant Dan

I played the demo last night on 360, tried out everything it had to offer. The demo is totally caddie-centric, I agree with that...and I think featuring the caddie and the fairly scripted Augusta event was the aim of the demo, period. I thought I had read in a preview somewhere (maybe IGN) that the caddie would be an optional feature in the final game. I won't assume, but I'm THINKING that when caddie is disable in the full version, that the caddie's suggested shots/percentage stuff will go away and be more like what we had in TW11. Again, I think the demo is just 100% caddie-centric and that's why the percentages are persistent. If it comes to pass that this is NOT the case and I can't play True Aim like I did in the excellent TW11, I'll be returning the game for full credit. Until then, I'll wait and see. Putting was interesting, kind of a new look, and the caddie was actually somewhat useful on the green. Simply doing what he said didn't guarantee my shot; the execution and precise aim is still required and wasn't ridiculously easy...but again, we'll see. Again, this is just a demo...and a feature-centric one more than actual game-centric. I'll extend EA the benefit of the doubt until I can play the final version, which they earned from me with TW11 being so damn good. If it fails, it goes back and I go back to TW11 for another year.

My sentiments, EXACTLY!

I really, really hated the demo. I absolutely loved the last two editions of TW. TW 11 was pretty much exactly what I want in a game. If I can't play with True Aim exactly as I did last year, then I'm going back to TW 11.

I will probably rent TW 12 and see if it feels as simple minded as the demo. I just have to believe that True Aim is going to be in there, and the Caddy can be turned off completely. Right now, the demo made March 29th's buying decision simple. It's Shift 2.

[JayhawkerStL]

Quote: Originally Posted by fishepa

I really wish the EA devs would consult with the old Links devs so they could get an idea of how videogame golf should be.

Honestly, TW 11 was how videogame golf should be. True Aim was the difference maker. Best videogame golf I ever played. I was lookng forward to that with The Masters.

Now I'm sad.

[Seymour Scagnetti]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jayhawker

My sentiments, EXACTLY! I really, really hated the demo. I absolutely loved the last two editions of TW. TW 11 was pretty much exactly what I want in a game. If I can't play with True Aim exactly as I did last year, then I'm going back to TW 11. I will probably rent TW 12 and see if it feels as simple minded as the demo. I just have to believe that True Aim is going to be in there, and the Caddy can be turned off completely. Right now, the demo made tomorrow's buying decision simple. It's Shift 2.

It's been confirmed by the devs that how you disable the caddy in the demo is how it's being done in the full game and the way true aim was done in TW11 will not be in TW12. My hunch as to one reason the true aim of TW11 was turfed was people with weak math skills (and there are alot of them) were probably complaining that judging true aim distance was simply doing mathematical calculations in your head (which is true to a point) and you know for many gamers the dumber the game the better. I could live with that but the caddie issue on tourney mode was still a head scratcher.

My suggestion is play the demo alot more and your tolerance level of the caddie might go up as it did for me. I still hate it but can learn to live with it and pray there will be a patch to eliminate those boxes. Having Augusta and an improved career mode hopefully cancels out that negative. The devs have heard it loud and clear from thier forums that the caddie was not a good idea to force on gamers and if they have an ounce of common sense (which is debatable) then they are feverishly working on totally disabling it with the 1st patch.

[rolltide1017]

I'm not holding my breath for that though. The caddie feature is their little baby this year and they are determined to force it down every gamers throat. If they really had an once of common sense, they would have foreseen the sim fans not liking the caddie feature and built in the ability to completely disable it from the start.

[JayhawkerStL]

Well, I just really loved the way True Aim worked last year. It never rally dawned on me that they would jettison it.

I deleted the demo after two holes, becasue the game just felt too dumbed down. I was parring holes without thinking. But I assumed the full version would have what I was looking for.

I might try the demo again, but I will probably just rent the game when it comes out and decide from there. If the caddy thing was so good, why not just have it as an option. If it really is all that, gamers will use it. But why force it on us by deleting the best play mode I've ever used in a golf video game?

[Lieutenant Dan]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jayhawker

Well, I just really loved the way True Aim worked last year. It never rally dawned on me that they would jettison it. I deleted the demo after two holes, becasue the game just felt too dumbed down. I was parring holes without thinking. But I assumed the full version would have what I was looking for. I might try the demo again, but I will probably just rent the game when it comes out and decide from there. If the caddy thing was so good, why not just have it as an option. If it really is all that, gamers will use it. But why force it on us by deleting the best play mode I've ever used in a golf video game?

I'm just waiting for the full game at this point and I'll have a good go at it. My Gamestop manager is very cool with me about game exchanges if I don't like a game (I've only had to do it one time in two years), but if I didn't have this as an option, I would rent TW12 first.

Like you and many others, I have mad love for TrueAim and it's realistic take on golf. Hell, it's actually helped my REAL game! But if TrueAim has been 'hurt' by TW12, that will be critical for me. We'll see next week.

[misterkrabz]

Quote: Originally Posted by rolltide1017

I'm not holding my breath for that though. The caddie feature is their little baby this year and they are determined to force it down every gamers throat. If they really had an once of common sense, they would have foreseen the sim fans not liking the caddie feature and built in the ability to completely disable it from the start.

Never EVER under estimate EA's ability to disappoint it's customers. They've been doing it for years. Even when they start to get something right, they yank the rug from under it. Not just with golf, all their games.