Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 12: The Masters Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here

[Seymour Scagnetti]

Quote: Originally Posted by All-Vol

How do you reverse it? This is the first tiger game in a long time where I feel like I can't see the course. It's like they put horse blinders on me.

D-pad in any direction will give you a reverse, forward or left and right look. But it's only enabled after you zoom in with the left stick.

Go in the demo and screw around because there's also an option where you can view a broader behind the golfer view when he's addressing the ball. I just can't remember what button that is.

[JimmyPelican]

Quote: Originally Posted by misterkrabz

Not sure that I can...I can only confirm that I feel the same way. I've already jumped off the ledge with other EA games e.g. Madden. I don't think EA "gets it"...when they get going in the right direction they still end up finding away to turn you off...after last years game which I enjoyed I was super pumped for this years game (w/ Masters and all) but the changes to the game do nothing for me. Actually it's worse than that, the changes have turned me off of the game. One thing I can tell you is I'm trying to like the demo even with the clunky controls...I've found a way to get around the stupid caddy thing (by pressing the "o" button and choosing a custom shot) but even then it's confusing to figure out where my cursor is, where I'm hitting the ball, my lie, how do I zoom, how do I aim my shot, ect...I seariously dont' think they could have f'd up the controls any worse if they literally tried. If they want to add the caddy thing, then fine...give us the option to turn it off and don't change around the controls. But, they couldn't do either. It really is amazing.

These are some of the reasons im still playing 10.
I tried the demo last year and didnt think it was worth a purchase.
Tried this years demo, and feel like they are heading in the wrong direction with some parts of the series that have me scratching my head.

[Aggies7]

I like the demo seemed a little short though. Still don't know why they don't add the course from MD that Tiger held for a few years.

[ShivasIrons]

Quote: Originally Posted by Seymour Scagnetti

No one hates this caddie more or was more pissed off with it than me as I'm still trying to decide whether it can be tolerable for me in the full game but I want the damn Masters so bad (I guess this is what EA is banking on) that I may relent and hope they give us a patch to totally disable it. ...

I wouldn't bank much hope on any patch. These are the same developers that last year released a course (Cog Hill) that they charged customers for as DLC, but forgot to include a pin/hole on the 11th hole on the "hard" pin settings. Did they fix that and re-release it? Nope. Every time you played it you had to hit your ball around on the hole to take a maximum shot of eleven, so that you could then just be able to advance to the 12th hole. You couldn't get a refund for your purchase either.

That game review that someone posted from Simu Gaming was strange. The guy - frodawg- apparently reviewed the demo from a sim perspective, but somehow reviewed it on the "tour pro" difficulty setting, as set forth in his last paragraph. That's no longer the most "sim-like" game mode and hasn't been since TW10. Some of his statements are just not accurate when in context of the hardest game difficulty modes -- called True Aim in TW11 and now Tournament in TW12.

[All-Vol]

I played the hell out of the demo last night while messing around with all the different configurations. First of all, Seymour, you are right about the controls...they just take some getting used to. I'm not trilled with them but they will do.

For this game to be a winner they are going to have to patch some things in. They have to absolutely lose the caddie boxes and recommended shot lines if you've hit disable caddie. Even if you're playing every shot custom you just can't help but look at them, which makes you feel like you're cheating. I think this is probably do-able...and also realize that the physical caddie isn't going anywhere. They also need to patch in club distances for all modes.

On Tour Pro (which i like because of the camera angles and general landing area) they HAVE GOT to get rid of the little putting circle.

On Tournament they have to patch in yardages and elevations.

Considering they could leave the actual caddie in the game and just do away with his info I think the list above is realistic to hope for, don't you?

[All-Vol]

I played the hell out of the demo last night while messing around with all the different configurations. First of all, Seymour, you are right about the controls...they just take some getting used to. I'm not trilled with them but they will do.

For this game to be a winner they are going to have to patch some things in. They have to absolutely lose the caddie boxes and recommended shot lines if you've hit disable caddie. Even if you're playing every shot custom you just can't help but look at them, which makes you feel like you're cheating. I think this is probably do-able...and also realize that the physical caddie isn't going anywhere. They also need to patch in club distances for all modes.

On Tour Pro (which i like because of the camera angles and general landing area) they HAVE GOT to get rid of the little putting circle.

On Tournament they have to patch in yardages and elevations.

Considering they could leave the actual caddie in the game and just do away with his info I think the list above is realistic to hope for, don't you?

[mwjr]

Do you earn XP points in the demo, like you did with last year's?

[ShivasIrons]

Quote: Originally Posted by mwjr

Do you earn XP points in the demo, like you did with last year's?

Yes. It maxes out at 40,000. The easiest way to get there is to play the Road To The Masters over and over as you get a big bonus point award for each tourny you win or make a good showing. The harder the difficulty settings (including AI) you play the more xp you get each round, too. On tournament difficulty, I was getting about 2,000 xp per 5 hole tourney. Had a high of about 2,700 and lows around 1,800. So, it turns out to be about the equivalent of 6-7 18-hole rounds. You can also play the "play now", but you don't get the 1,500 xp bonus for winning the tourney, so it will take a fair amount longer.