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Old 01-07-2009, 01:11 AM   #33
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Re: Some Harris Voters hadn't even watched Utah play before last Friday

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While I agree, not even watching one Utah game is a completely different story and is unacceptable.

Utah @ Michgan, Oregon State @ Utah, and TCU @ Utah were all nationally televised games. How could they not have even seen those games? At least for some of the posters here, they had a background of Utah and an ability to make a reasonable judgment from watching a few of their games. The Harris poll voters, meanwhile, probably had no idea about the team they were voting for and were probably copying each other's votes.

Have you checked the credentials of some of the Harris Poll voters?
Nope. I haven't checked the "credentials" of the geeks who made up the computer polls either. You could get nothing but Hall of Famers & the top mathmeticians on the planet for all I care. I still would say they don't have the "credentials" to crown a champion. So there's no way I would be swayed by knowing who made up the poll.

I agree its hard to excuse not seeing a single Utah game. But let's remember games are regionalized & played simultaneously. An argument can be made that they gambled who would be a factor in the end & watched those schools instead of Utah. It wouldn't fly w/me, but it could be stated w/some credence.

As I said earlier, we had about 25 posters each week voting on our own personal top 10 & the best the Utes finished was 7th. I'm including myself. So we did Utah worse than the bcs did. They would make my personal #1 now. We just can't fairly point the finger @ the voters w/out taking note of our own misjudgement.
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Old 01-07-2009, 01:12 AM   #34
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As reported in the LA times:........
Someone already started a thread on this.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum..****st-laws.html
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I agree its hard to excuse not seeing a single Utah game. But let's remember games are regionalized & played simultaneously. An argument can be made that they gambled who would be a factor in the end & watched those schools instead of Utah. It wouldn't fly w/me, but it could be stated w/some credence.
The games were also on weird stations. I remember having to watch some crappy ACC game because I didn't get the Utah/TCU game and I think the BYU game was on said channel and at the same time as OU/TTech

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Re: Some Harris Voters hadn't even watched Utah play before last Friday

Glad to see someone is at least trying, though realistically we all know nothing will come of it.
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how about you boot the Big East from the BCS and add the Mountain West?

The fact that college football is so heavily dominated by what goes on east of the Rockies is stupid. Remember when the Pac-10 sucked this year? I mean, because the fact that ABC and ESPN rarely placed them on television had nothing to do with public perception of how the Pac-10 was viewed. But boy oh boy, I'm supposed to get into how awesome the Big XII and Big Ten are. There's no reason the Big East deserves an auto bid. And the fact that the Big Ten sucks up two bids literally every single year is horrendous. It sucks if you don't get those big bowl payouts...but constructing four BCS Bowl games and a BCS Championship game harms college football. You've completely diluted the Cotton Bowl (which, if you are going to do a five game rotation, why isn't the Cotton Bowl involved), you make the Holiday Bowl diluted, and so on and so forth.
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how about you boot the Big East from the BCS and add the Mountain West?

That wouldn't solve a thing.
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That wouldn't solve a thing.
What exactly are you attempting to 'solve'?
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What exactly are you attempting to 'solve'?
The BCS.
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