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While these aren't final NBA 2K17 player ratings, as mentioned by Ronnie 2K and LD2K, it definitely gives us a glimpse of what we will see when the game ships. Typically, 2K updates the rosters prior to release. But let's have fun with what we see TODAY. There are quite a few face scans in both videos as well, from some of the rookies and popular players in the league.

Shoutout to Familyfirst Glo for the videos, who knows how long they will be available.

Below are some of the higher rated players on each team. (The Wizards were not shown)

Atlanta Hawks
  • Millsap - 86
  • Howard - 84
Boston Celtics
  • Thomas - 85
  • Horford - 85
  • Bradley - 82
  • Crowder - 81
Brooklyn Nets
  • Lopez - 81
  • Lin - 76
  • Bogdanovic - 76
Charlotte Hornets
  • Walker - 85
  • Kidd-Gilchrist - 79
  • Batum - 79
Chicago Bulls
  • Butler - 88
  • Wade - 87
  • Rondo - 81
Cleveland Cavaliers
  • James - 96
  • Irving - 89
  • Love - 82
Dallas Mavericks
  • Nowitzki - 84
  • Barnes - 79
Denver Nuggets
  • Gallinari - 80
  • Faried - 80
Detroit Pistons
  • Drummond - 87
  • Jackson - 82
Golden State Warriors
  • Curry - 94
  • Durant - 93
  • Thompson - 90
  • Green - 90
Houston Rockets
  • Harden - 90
Indiana Pacers
  • George - 90
Los Angeles Clippers
  • Paul - 91
  • Griffin - 87
  • Jordan - 85
Los Angeles Lakers
  • Russell - 79
  • Ingram - 78
Memphis Grizzlies
  • Conley - 85
  • Gasol - 85
Miami Heat
  • Bosh - 86
  • Whiteside - 85
  • Dragic - 78
Milwaukee Bucks
  • Antetokounmpo - 83
  • Middleton - 81
Minnesota Timberwolves
  • Towns - 88
  • Wiggins - 82
New Orleans Pelicans
  • Davis - 90
New York Knicks
  • Anthony - 88
  • Rose - 80
  • Porzingis - 80
Oklahoma City Thunder
  • Westbrook - 93
  • Adams - 81
Orlando Magic
  • Vucevic - 80
Philadelphia 76ers
  • Okafor - 79
  • Simmons - 79
Phoenix Suns
  • Bledsoe - 85
Portland Trailblazers
  • Lillard - 89
  • McCollum - 83
Sacramento Kings
  • Cousins - 90
  • Gay - 80
San Antonio Spurs
  • Leonard - 93
  • Aldridge - 88
  • Gasol - 84
  • Parker - 80
Toronto Raptors
  • DeRozan - 87
  • Lowry - 86
  • Valanciunas - 82
Utah Jazz
  • Favors - 85
  • Hayward - 84
  • Gobert - 81
Washington Wizards
  • (None Shown)

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Member Comments
# 221 ClevelandFan @ 08/31/16 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by YaBoial
The real issue I have here is with damian Lillard rating, he makes all NBA but still can't be respected by 2k.

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I like Dame and he did a great job leading Portland to the playoffs this year, but it would be tough to give a 90 to a 42% shooter. He just takes a high volume of shots (really he had to this season) and got big PPG numbers due to that.

I look at him and Harden as similar players, Harden is just a little better (more efficient, more assists, more rebounds). Given that I think it makes sense to see Harden as a 90 and Dame as a 89.

Dame also had a bit of a rough go in the playoffs this year (37%, ouch) which probably didn't help his cause.

Like I said though I like Dame's game. He's a baller. I'd love to see what he could do with another all-star or two on his team. It's too bad Aldridge left (and ironic, if he stayed one would think they would have beat a Curry-less Warriors team and gone to the WCF and maybe even The Finals).
 
# 222 SonicBoom2040 @ 08/31/16 05:17 PM
As I'm reading thru the pages I see what Ronnie tweeted...thank the L....wait I'm an atheist
 
# 223 MoneyOvaHuds @ 08/31/16 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Insight23
Klay Thompson up top, Jimmy Butler down below?


Yup , I wonder what ratings Klay got boosted that he really shouldn't have . His shooting should be off the charts and defense should be solid but other areas of his game should be ok at best . It just doesn't look 90 worthy to me , he should be around an 88 imo like Jimmy who shown more in his game outside of shooting the 3 bad last year . Jimmy can shoot the 3 better which I think he will next year , 2014 he shot 37% and 2012 it was 38% .
 
# 224 RLebron12 @ 08/31/16 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by avaya23
Dont know if this has been mentioned or what but...has anyone read the 3pt ratings on some of these rosters? Seriously.... Those can't be right....


Yes it's already been confirmed that those ratings aren't correct and will be updated example Bosh, and Speights.


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# 225 cmebfresh @ 08/31/16 05:26 PM
Man Damian Lillard was balling on my butt in NBA 2k16. That rating don't mean nothing to me.
Cause sometimes high rated players in NBA 2k sometimes don't even take over the game. at least to me Curry,Lebron, or AD never killed me in 2k. AND I SUCK

OFFLINE THAT IS
 
# 226 Insight23 @ 08/31/16 05:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoneyOvaHuds
Yup , I wonder what ratings Klay got boosted that he really shouldn't have . His shooting should be off the charts and defense should be solid but other areas of his game should be ok at best . It just doesn't look 90 worthy to me , he should be around an 88 imo like Jimmy who shown more in his game outside of shooting the 3 bad last year . Jimmy can shoot the 3 better which I think he will next year , 2014 he shot 37% and 2012 it was 38% .

I think it's the allure of the Warriors that got him a 90. I agree that Butler/Klay should pretty much have the same rating. Klay may have him on the 3 but I think Butler has him on defense. As you said, Klay's defense should be solid but I think Butler is close to becoming a lockdown defender.

What about Harden as a 90? People knock him for his lack of defense but I think he makes such an impact overall that it's deserving. He carried that Rockets team on his back the year before.
 
# 227 scottyp180 @ 08/31/16 05:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmebfresh
Man Damian Lillard was balling on my butt in NBA 2k16. That rating don't mean nothing to me.
Cause sometimes high rated players in NBA 2k sometimes don't even take over the game. at least to me Curry,Lebron, or AD never killed me in 2k. AND I SUCK

OFFLINE THAT IS
Not to mention the role badges play. It's possible for a lower rated player to perform better due to the badges they have.
 
# 228 BluFu @ 08/31/16 05:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoneyOvaHuds
Yup , I wonder what ratings Klay got boosted that he really shouldn't have . His shooting should be off the charts and defense should be solid but other areas of his game should be ok at best . It just doesn't look 90 worthy to me , he should be around an 88 imo like Jimmy who shown more in his game outside of shooting the 3 bad last year . Jimmy can shoot the 3 better which I think he will next year , 2014 he shot 37% and 2012 it was 38% .
He's a 90 ovr in 2K16 and he's definitely overrated in a lot of areas. Playmaking for one (2.1 AST per game). Rebounding #2 (less than 4 RPG). Defense (as good as he is) #3. He's a solid defender but right now he's rated higher than Paul George and is on par with Jimmy Butler and Avery Bradley.

He ends up at around 88 like you said when these things are scaled down.
 
# 229 InRodWeTrust @ 08/31/16 05:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoneyOvaHuds
Yup , I wonder what ratings Klay got boosted that he really shouldn't have . His shooting should be off the charts and defense should be solid but other areas of his game should be ok at best . It just doesn't look 90 worthy to me , he should be around an 88 imo like Jimmy who shown more in his game outside of shooting the 3 bad last year . Jimmy can shoot the 3 better which I think he will next year , 2014 he shot 37% and 2012 it was 38% .
Probably as a SG the formula values 3pt shooting a lot more. Switch them both to SF and watch Jimmy's overall climb while Klay's drops
 
# 230 scottyp180 @ 08/31/16 05:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by avaya23
Dont know if this has been mentioned or what but...has anyone read the 3pt ratings on some of these rosters? Seriously.... Those can't be right....
It's already been mentioned that these ratings aren't final. Which means all these arguments and debates over player ratings might not even be justified by the time the game actually releases.
 
# 231 YaBoial @ 08/31/16 05:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ClevelandFan
I like Dame and he did a great job leading Portland to the playoffs this year, but it would be tough to give a 90 to a 42% shooter. He just takes a high volume of shots (really he had to this season) and got big PPG numbers due to that.

I look at him and Harden as similar players, Harden is just a little better (more efficient, more assists, more rebounds). Given that I think it makes sense to see Harden as a 90 and Dame as a 89.

Dame also had a bit of a rough go in the playoffs this year (37%, ouch) which probably didn't help his cause.

Like I said though I like Dame's game. He's a baller. I'd love to see what he could do with another all-star or two on his team. It's too bad Aldridge left (and ironic, if he stayed one would think they would have beat a Curry-less Warriors team and gone to the WCF and maybe even The Finals).
He's better than kyriex should be rated higher than him. He should be at least 90 or 91. He took a team who had NOBODY on his team but cj McCollum. His skill level is top tier in this league. His team lost 4 starters and still made the playoffs, not many other players can achieve that feat

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# 232 Mauer4MVP @ 08/31/16 05:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YaBoial
He's better than kyriex should be rated higher than him. He should be at least 90 or 91. He took a team who had NOBODY on his team but cj McCollum. His skill level is top tier in this league. His team lost 4 starters and still made the playoffs, not many other players can achieve that feat

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While I don't think the Blazers are loaded with talent, they still have a top 10 head coach and a ton of really good role players.
 
# 233 ClevelandFan @ 08/31/16 05:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cmebfresh
Man Damian Lillard was balling on my butt in NBA 2k16. That rating don't mean nothing to me.
Cause sometimes high rated players in NBA 2k sometimes don't even take over the game. at least to me Curry,Lebron, or AD never killed me in 2k. AND I SUCK

OFFLINE THAT IS
Quote:
Originally Posted by scottyp180
Not to mention the role badges play. It's possible for a lower rated player to perform better due to the badges they have.
I get that the OVR rating # isn't that important, and that Kyrie being a 90 or 89 isn't going to change the way he plays in this game much if at all, as people that hate OVR rating complainers always point out. But, and I'll just speak for myself, but when I'm complaining about OVR rating it is simply as a matter of respect/recognition.
 
# 234 ClevelandFan @ 08/31/16 05:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by YaBoial
He's better than kyriex should be rated higher than him. He should be at least 90 or 91. He took a team who had NOBODY on his team but cj McCollum. His skill level is top tier in this league. His team lost 4 starters and still made the playoffs, not many other players can achieve that feat

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OK lol......
 
# 235 DC @ 08/31/16 06:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hustle Westbrook
Lol what do you consider a "franchise player"?

I mean you consider Cousins a "franchise player" but he's missed the playoffs for the last 6 years and can barely lead his team to a 30+ win season. Really impressive.

So honestly your definition of a "franchise player" is pretty vague. There's only a few real "franchise players" in the league.
As if it is COUSINS's fault that his teams didn't make the playoffs
 
# 236 RLebron12 @ 08/31/16 06:13 PM
We can debate all day long but when it comes down to it...the 2K Devs have an algorithm that gives them the ratings and it is what it is. If the player you think deserves more balls out this coming season...they'll probably get the upgrade.


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# 237 eltyboogie @ 08/31/16 06:13 PM
kyrie and dame are the same players to me... so I feel like they should have the same rating.
 
# 238 sva91 @ 08/31/16 06:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by yellow86
Green & Klay are good players, but 90??? Come on, it's like they took ESPN's garbage propaganda about these Warriors all year long. Klay is not the best SG, Green on another team would not be the greatest player so with 2k very careful of handing out 90s it's crazy. Also, Harden dropping to 90 is a bit odd, guess they also saw the Harden hate and didn't dare to keep him the same.
Ratings are based one more than just offense. Klay is one of the best 2 way players in the league. How quickly ppl forget about when he went god mode in game 6 vs okc. I'm not even a GSW fan, but too many ppl think bball is only about scoring.
 
# 239 alexchandy13 @ 08/31/16 07:00 PM
Here are basically all the ratings from the same source

Atlanta Hawks
Paul Millsap PF 86
Dwight Howard C 84
Kent Bazemore SF 78
Dennis Schroder PG 78
Kyle Korver SG 76
Thabo Sefolosha SF 75
Tiago Splitter C 75
Jarrett Jack PG 74
Kris Humphries PF 73
Mike Scott PF 73
Mike Muscala C 72
Tim Hardaway Jr. SG 71
Taurean Prince SF 71
Deandre Bembry SF 69

Boston Celtics
Isaiah Thomas PG 85
Al Horford C 85
Avery Bradley SG 82
Jae Crowder SF 81
Marcus Smart PG 76
Kelly Olynyk C 76
Amir Johnson C 76
Tyler Zeller C 74

Brooklyn Nets
Brook Lopez C 81
Bojan Bogdanovic SF 76
Jeremy Lin PG 76
Luis Scola PF 74
Trevor Booker PF 73
Rondae Hollis-J SF 72
Caris LeVert SG 71
Sean Kilpatrick SG 71
Randy Foye SG 71
Greivis Vasquez PG 71
Anthony Bennett PF 69
Justin Holiday C 69
Joe Harris SG 68
Isaiah Whitehead PG 68

CHI
Jimmy Butler SG 88
Dwyane Wade SG 87
Rajon Rondo PG 81
Robin Lopez C 77
Nikola Mirotic PF 76
Taj Gibson PF 76
Doug McDermott SF 74
Bobby Portis PF 74
Isaiah Canaan SG 72
Denzel Valentine SF 72
Tony Snell SF 72
Jerian Grant PG 72

CLE
Lebron James SF 96
Kyrie Irving PG 89
Kevin Love PF 82
Tristan Thompson C 81
J.R. Smith SG 77
Iman Shumpert SG 74
Richard Jefferson SF 74
Channing Frye PF 74
Mo Williams PG 73
Chris Andersen C 73

Dallas Mavericks
Dirk Nowitzki PF 84
Harrison Barnes SF 79
Wesley Matthews SG 78
Andrew Bogut C 77
J.J. Barea PG 76
Deron Williams PG 76
Dwight Powell PF 74
Devon Harris PG 73

Denver Nuggets
Danilo Gallinari SF 80
Kenneth Faried PF 80
Nikola Jokic C 79
Will Barton SG 78
Gary Harris SG 76
Wilson Chandler SF 76
Emmanuel Mudiay PG 76
Jamal Murray SG 75
Darrell Arthur PF 75
Jusuf Nurkic C 75
Joffrey Lauvergne C 75

Detroit Pistons
Andre Drummond C 87
Reggie Jackson PG 82
Kentavious Caldwell SG 79
Tobias Harris SF 78
Marcus Morris SF 76
Ish Smith PG 75
Jon Leuer PF 75
Boban Marjanovic C 75
Ray McCallum PG 71
Henry Ellenson C 70

GSW
Stephen Curry PG 94
Kevin Durant SF 93
Klay Thompson SG 90
Draymond Green PF 90
Andre Iguodala SF 81

Houston Rockets
James Harden SG 90
Ryan Anderson PF 79
Eric Gordon SG 77
Nene C 77
Clint Capela C 77
Patrick Beverley PG 76
Michael Beasley PF 75
Donatas Montiejunas PF 74
Corey Brewer SF 73
Pablo Progioni PG 71

Indiana Pacers
Paul George SF 89
Jeff Teague PG 79
Thaddeus Young PF 79
Al Jefferson C 79
Myles Turner C 78
C.J. Miles SF 76
Rodney Stuckey SG 74
Aaron Brooks PG 73
Lavoy Allen PF 72
Joseph Young PG 71

Los Angeles Clippers
Chris Paul PG 91
Blake Griffin PF 87
DeAndre Jordan C 85
J.J. Redick SG 78
Jamal Crawford SG 77
Marreese Speights C 75
Austin Rivers PG 74
Raymond Felton PG 74
Brandon Bass PF 74
Wesley Johnson SF 73
Luc Mbah a Moute PF 73

Los Angeles Lakers
D’Angelo Russell PG 79
Luol Deng SF 78
Brandon Ingram SF 78
Louis Williams SG 77
Jordan Clarkson SG 77
Julius Randle PF 77
Larry Nance Jr. PF 75
Timofey Mozgov C 75

Memphis Grizzlies
Mike Conley PG 85
Marc Gasol C 85
Zach Randolph PF 80
Chandler Parsons SF 79
Tony Allen SG 78
Brandan Wright C 76
Vince Carter SF 74
JaMychal Green PF 73
James Ennis SF 71
Troy Daniels SG 70
Wade Baldwin PG 69
Deyonta Davis PF 69
Jarell Martin PF 69
Jordan Adams SG 68
Andrew Harrison PG 68

Miami Heat
Chris Bosh PF 86
Hassan Whiteside C 86
Goran Dragic PG 78
Justise Winslow SF 77
Tyler Johnson SG 75
Josh Richardson SG 75
Dion Waiters SG 73
Derrick Williams SF 73
Wayne Ellington SG 72
Joe Johnson SF 72
Josh McRoberts PF 72
Briante Weber PG 70
Willie Reed PF 70

Milwaukee Bucks
Giannis Antetokoun SF 83
Khris Middleton SG 81
Greg Monroe C 79
Jabari Parker PF 78
Mirza Teletovic PF 76
John Henson C 76
Michael Carter PG 75
Matthew Dellavedova PG 75
Miles Plumlee C 73
Thon Maker C 71
Malcolm Brogdon SG 70
Tyler Ennis PG 70

Minnesota Timberwolves
Karl-Anthony Towns C 88
Andrew Wiggins SF 82
Zach LaVine SG 78
Ricky Rubio PG 77
Kris Dunn PG 77
Jordan Hill C 76
Cole Aldrich C 75
Kevin Garnett PF 74
Nikola Pekovic C 74
Shabazz Muhammad SF 72

New Orleans Pelicans
Anthony Davis PF 90
Tyreke Evans SF 79
Jrue Holiday PG 79
Buddy Hield SG 75
Omer Asik C 75
E’Twaun Moore SG 74
Quincy Pondexter SF 74
Terrence Jones PF 74
Alexis Ajinca C 73
Langston Galloway PG 71

New York Knicks
Carmelo Anthony SF 88
Derrick Rose PG 80
Kristaps Porzingis PF 80
Joakim Noah C 77
Courtney Lee SG 76
Kyle O’Quinn C 76
Brandon Jennings PG 75
Mindaugas Kuzminsga PF 73
Lance Thomas SF 72
Justin Holiday SG 70
Maurice N’dour PF 69
Willy Hernangomez C 69
Marshall Plumlee C 66

Oklahoma City Thunder
Russell Westbrook PG 93
Steven Adams C 81
Victor Oladipo SG 79
Enes Kanter C 79
Ersan Ilyasova PF 77
Anthony Morrow SF 73
Cameron Payne PG 73
Nick Collison PF 72
Kyle Singler SF 71
Mitch McGary C 71

Orlando Magic
Nikola Vucevic C 80
Serge Ibaka PF 79
Evan Fournier SG 78
Bismack Biyombo C 77
Jeff Green SF 76
Aaron Gordon PF 76
Elfrid Payton PG 75
Jodie Meeks SG 74

Philadelphia 76ers
Ben Simmons SF 79
Jahlil Okafor C 79
Nerlens Noel C 77
Joel Embiid C 77
Robert Covington SF 76
Jerryd Bayless PG 74
Carl Landry PF 74
Dario Saric PF 74

Phoenix Suns
Eric Bledsoe PG 85
Devon Booker SG 78
Brandon Knight PG 78
T.J. Warren SF 76
Jared Dudley SF 76
P.J. Tucker SF 75
Alex Len C 75
Tyson Chandler C 74
Leandro Barbosa SG 73
Archie Goodwin SG 70

Portland Trail Blazers
Damian Lillard PG 89
C.J. McCollum SG 83
Mason Plumlee C 78
Al-Farouq Aminu SF 77
Evan Turner SF 77

Sacramento Kings
Demarcus Cousins C 90
Rudy Gay SF 80
Darren Collison PG 77
Arron Afflalo SG 76
Garrett Temple SG 74
Matt Barnes SF 74
Kosta Koufos C 74
Omri Casspi SF 73
Ben McLemore SG 72
Willie Cauley-Stein C 72
Anthony Tolliver PF 70
Skal Labissiere C 70
Malachi Richardson SG 69
Lamar Patterson SG 68

San Antonio Spurs
Kawhi Leonard SF 93
LaMarcus Aldridge PF 88
Pau Gasol C 84
Tony Parker PG 80
Manu Ginobili SG 78
Danny Green SG 76
Patty Mills PG 75
Kyle Anderson SF 74
David Lee PF 74
Dewayne Dedmon C 74

Toronto Raptors
Demar Derozan SG 87
Kyle Lowry PG 86
Jonas Valanciunas C 82
Jared Sullinger C 77
Patrick Patterson PF 76
Terrence Ross SF 75
Caleb Joseph PG 75
Norman Powell SG 74
Jakob Poetl C 71
Lucas Nogueira C 69

Utah Jazz
Derrick Favors PF 85
Gordon Hayward SF 84
Rudy Gobert C 81
Rodney Hood SG 80
Alec Burks SG 77


Top 15 Players
Lebron James Cleveland Cavaliers SF 96
Stephen Curry Golden State Warriors PG 94
Kevin Durant Golden State Warriors SF 93
Russell Westbrook Oklahoma City Thunder PG 93
Kawhi Leonard San Antonio Spurs SF 93
Chris Paul Los Angeles Clippers PG 91
Klay Thompson Golden State Warriors SG 90
Draymond Green Golden State Warriors PF 90
James Harden Houston Rockets SG 90
Anthony Davis New Orleans Pelicans PF 90
Demarcus Cousins Sacramento Kings C 90
Kyrie Irving Cleveland Cavaliers PG 89
Paul George Indiana Pacers SF 89
Damian Lillard Portland Trailblazers PG 89
Jimmy Butler Chicago Bulls SG 88


Top 5 Rookies
Ben Simmons PHI SF 79
Brandon Ingram LAL SF 78
Kris Dunn MIN PG 77
Jamal Murray DEN SG 75
Buddy Hield NO SG 75


Top 5 Each Position

PG
Stephen Curry Golden State Warriors PG 94
Russell Westbrook Oklahoma City Thunder PG 93
Chris Paul Los Angeles Clippers PG 91
Kyrie Irving Cleveland Cavaliers PG 89
Damian Lillard Portland Trailblazers PG 89

SG
Klay Thompson Golden State Warriors SG 90
James Harden Houston Rockets SG 90
Jimmy Butler Chicago Bulls SG 88
Dwyane Wade Chicago Bulls SG 87
Demar Derozan Toronto Raptors SG 87

SF
Lebron James Cleveland Cavaliers SF 96
Kevin Durant Golden State Warriors SF 93
Kawhi Leonard San Antonio Spurs SF 93
Paul George Indiana Pacers SF 89
Carmelo Anthony New York Knicks SF 88

PF
Draymond Green Golden State Warriors PF 90
Anthony Davis New Orleans Pelicans PF 90
LaMarcus Aldridge San Antonio Spurs PF 88
Blake Griffin Los Angeles Clippers PF 87
Paul Millsap Atlanta Hawks PF 86

C
Demarcus Cousins Sacramento Kings C 90
Karl-Anthony Towns Minnesota Timberwolves C 88
Andre Drummond Detroit Pistons C 87
Hassan Whiteside Miami Heat C 86
Al Horford Boston Celtics C 85
 
# 240 jk31 @ 08/31/16 07:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RLebron12
We can debate all day long but when it comes down to it...the 2K Devs have an algorithm that gives them the ratings and it is what it is. If the player you think deserves more balls out this coming season...they'll probably get the upgrade.


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Algorithm...yeah..Ask George Hill about it. Subpar defender and shooter in this game...Don't know which algorithm gives a 40% percent shooter (16th best in the league last season) a 82 standing three and a 70 onball defense for a pretty good defender (under 30% fg in isolations against him)
 


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