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Madden NFL 17 Video - New Scouting & Draft Class Tips (MoonlightSwami)

05:31 PM - August 13, 2016 by jpdavis82

MoonlightSwami has posted another Madden NFL 17 video. This one featuring the new scouting system, along with draft class tips.

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# 41 BleedGreen710 @ 08/15/16 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by howboutdat


	Id rather a guy not be able to go up or down at all due to stats in a week period . Thats my point. At end of season, sure maybe a few guys could go up or down, but im skeptical at how many will change , in 1 league , in a seasons time. If its alot of guys, its overdone, which tends to happen with new features. Thats my area of concern. Yeah , i know the next comment, well thats what player editing is for. But thats just adding more work to an online commish's already large load of things to handle. When i hear a guy can go up due to player of the week, it just sounds an alarm. Of course ill wait and play it out, I will def be making a chart of how many go up and down in first season of our league .It should be a low number overall, every season IMO. Im not one who likes the whole xp based on stats in the first place. Just makes better users , have more stacked teams quicker in leagues.Not a fan of that at all.

agree with you! i think development should change maybe at the end of each year. weekly would be too much.

# 42 SyncereBlackout @ 08/15/16 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by howboutdat


	Yes i know it wont happen every week, but i am sure John white has said it can change weekly . like if a guy gets a player of week award. I also know that dont mean everyone who gets player of the week it will change, i just personally dont like that having any way shape or form , causing a guys dev to go up, and i believe possible down with a bad week as well? Guys just dont tend to rarely do that in real life. #TrentRichardson still trying to be more than a slow dev guy ....

I remember reading on the tweet forum that it's linked to annual goals so it should change every season potentially.

# 43 Mattanite @ 08/15/16 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by howboutdat


	The first thing your talking about there ,is something i dont even like being in CFM , the fact that players will change dev rating , even at times weekly.I just really dont like that at all.For numerous reasons , i have mentioned before and wont get into here.

I think the best way to look at the new dynamic development trait is not from the viewpoint of the previous Maddens with the Dev trait. Being a slow dev is no longer a life sentence and a player has to continue to earn their super dev.

Think of the new dev trait as like a hot/cold meter, but instead of it being game to game, its over a part/whole of a season or couple of seasons. Look at Peyton Hillis as a great example:

He was an unknown FB on the Broncos (Normal Dev), he gets traded to the Browns and shifted position (Play edit) and lights it up for 144yards at the Ravens game (low chance weekly award dev shift to quick). He then produces a fantastic remainder of season and gets the Madden cover (Super Dev +exp). Peyton then improves his game in the offseason (spends XP) but struggles early with injury and doesn't produce expected stats (Drops dev). He then moves around a couple of teams never re-earning the starting job until he retires.

So dynamic development is not a "This is a Bust/Superstar" badge, its a "lifetime hot/cold streak" badge. There are tonnes of players in the history of the NFL who had their spotlight only to flame out due to injury, system change or being just a flash in the pan. But then there are players who worked hard, came from nowhere and now are solid, like Tony Romo.

# 44 brza37 @ 08/15/16 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by howboutdat


	Im not one who likes the whole xp based on stats in the first place. Just makes better users , have more stacked teams quicker in leagues.Not a fan of that at all.

Exactly, its hard enough maintaining a competitive online league as it is. Dynamic DEV Trait is just another feature that will end up making the best teams better and widen the gap even further, which causes people to drop out or lose interest.

# 45 howboutdat @ 08/15/16 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Geodude


	I think the best way to look at the new dynamic development trait is not from the viewpoint of the previous Maddens with the Dev trait. Being a slow dev is no longer a life sentence and a player has to continue to earn their super dev. Think of the new dev trait as like a hot/cold meter, but instead of it being game to game, its over a part/whole of a season or couple of seasons. Look at Peyton Hillis as a great example: He was an unknown FB on the Broncos (Normal Dev), he gets traded to the Browns and shifted position (Play edit) and lights it up for 144yards at the Ravens game (low chance weekly award dev shift to quick). He then produces a fantastic remainder of season and gets the Madden cover (Super Dev +exp). Peyton then improves his game in the offseason (spends XP) but struggles early with injury and doesn't produce expected stats (Drops dev). He then moves around a couple of teams never re-earning the starting job until he retires. So dynamic development is not a "This is a Bust/Superstar" badge, its a "lifetime hot/cold streak" badge. There are tonnes of players in the history of the NFL who had their spotlight only to flame out due to injury, system change or being just a flash in the pan. But then there are players who worked hard, came from nowhere and now are solid, like Tony Romo.

Yeah , as i said, i dont mind some guys doing this at the end of the season. Just not a fan of the potential for it weekly due to an award . Which they have said is possible.

Like i said earlier. Im just stating , it raises a concern to me as a commish of a 32 man league that gets in 10-12 seasons per madden. I will be taking notes on how many change in first season . I dont mind if some players due, but the question will be , how many do . Even at the end of the season, it shouldnt be a ton of guys changing dev traits.

If they do , you can bet , commish will be getting alot of requests for him to fix their dev traits.How do i know? ive only done this 6 years in a row, year round....

# 46 Yazan Gable @ 08/15/16 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Yukon46


	Couple of things I did not like in this video...... 2 LT's listed as 1st round picks, Top 5 on the list. Both listed as being from Pittsburgh.....the same college. (I dont think this would even happen in the best case scenario, other positions maybe... but not both being LT's) In the draft, he selected a WR with the 17th pick of the 1st round. Said his OVR rating was a 78.... then it said he "reached" because the player is the 47th ranked (Ovr) ! (46 rookie players are rated 78 or higher ? .... please say this is not so !!) Not so much worried about the College thing, could just be a freak anomaly. But that ratings thing.... I just hope this is before tuning or something.

Should keep in mind that the game will count kickers and punters in those upper ratings too, so a good kicker in the draft will be No. 3 in True Overall but really won't matter in the scheme of things. Not to mention certain positions like running back, wide receiver and cornerback there are always loads of players so they might be filling up the upper echelons. Also, it could just be a particularly top heavy draft. Lots of explanations until the game is out and can see.

# 47 tessl @ 08/15/16 02:08 PM

Interesting changes but I'm not sure it is enough for me to get the game.

# 48 Mauer4MVP @ 08/15/16 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bucky60


	Nevermind. The guy answered himself. Below would be why I personally don't like dynamic development (except maybe for certain injuries or age), but not tied to stats or awards. In real life, Trent Richardson development potential was never = NFL superstar. You're using Madden's developers perception as his real development. So your Trent example isn't really accurate. Madden developers would have just been rating him incorrectly. Trent's real life development potential didn't change. It wasn't dynamic. I believe that's what the other gentleman was saying.

I'll disagree with that. A RB isn't a top 3 pick without superstar potential.

# 49 michapop9 @ 08/15/16 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Geodude


	I think the best way to look at the new dynamic development trait is not from the viewpoint of the previous Maddens with the Dev trait. Being a slow dev is no longer a life sentence and a player has to continue to earn their super dev. Think of the new dev trait as like a hot/cold meter, but instead of it being game to game, its over a part/whole of a season or couple of seasons. Look at Peyton Hillis as a great example: He was an unknown FB on the Broncos (Normal Dev), he gets traded to the Browns and shifted position (Play edit) and lights it up for 144yards at the Ravens game (low chance weekly award dev shift to quick). He then produces a fantastic remainder of season and gets the Madden cover (Super Dev +exp). Peyton then improves his game in the offseason (spends XP) but struggles early with injury and doesn't produce expected stats (Drops dev). He then moves around a couple of teams never re-earning the starting job until he retires. So dynamic development is not a "This is a Bust/Superstar" badge, its a "lifetime hot/cold streak" badge. There are tonnes of players in the history of the NFL who had their spotlight only to flame out due to injury, system change or being just a flash in the pan. But then there are players who worked hard, came from nowhere and now are solid, like Tony Romo.

Excellent post.

# 50 kingsofthevalley @ 08/15/16 09:00 PM

Looks good. Question is, can you create players and implement them into the draft? I used to be big on that when NCAA was connected to Madden, I'd create legend players and throw em in the draft for import into Madden and let the chips fall wherever they fell.

# 51 Mauer4MVP @ 08/16/16 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bucky60


	I'll disagree with your disagreement. You're talking perceived potential not actual potential. A top 3 pick doesn't necessarily have high potential. That's one of the reasons we always have busts in every NFL draft. There is a fairly significant list of high draft picks that didn't make it in the NFL.

Not gonna lie, I don't think what you said makes any sense.

There is no such thing as "actual" potential and "perceived" potential.

Realize potential? Sure. Players fails for various reasons (scheme, work ethic, wrong talent, coaching, etc). Not because of a difference of perceived and actual potential. Trent Richardson had potential. If he didn't, he wouldn't have been so highly thought of by EVERYONE coming out of college.

# 52 Mauer4MVP @ 08/16/16 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bucky60


	Sure people have a potential. A potential is their Max abilities. Not everyone has Walter Payton potential. Players fail because they either don't reach their potential or their potential was over-rated. Him being thought of highly out of college has absolutely NOTHING to do with his actual potential. He was OVER-RATED by scouts.

That's way too much of a black and white view on why prospects fail and how scouts rate them. Just because he failed doesn't mean he was an overrated prospect.

That 2012 draft class is loaded with perfect examples and actually 2-4 are all great examples of that. Would you say Griffin, Richardson, and Kalil are all overrated prospects? You shouldn't. Being a bust and being an overrated prospect are not necessarily interchangeable.

# 53 oneamongthefence @ 08/16/16 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bucky60


	Sure people have a potential. A potential is their Max abilities. Not everyone has Walter Payton potential. Players fail because they either don't reach their potential or their potential was over-rated. Him being thought of highly out of college has absolutely NOTHING to do with his actual potential. He was OVER-RATED by scouts.

He wasn't overrated. He was just lazy. His work ethic was awful. He got paid and lost his desire. He even acknowledges that. If he worked harder, stayed in better shape, and did what was asked of him he would be a stud in Cleveland. His potential was very high.

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# 54 NFCastle @ 08/16/16 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by redsfan4life


	Finally more variety in the portraits! Looks excellent from what I saw.

Super excited about this feature

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