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SCEA Bans Many Players for Using Exploits in MLB The Show 16

12:07 PM - June 28, 2016 by RaychelSnr

If you've been on Twitter lately, you've no doubt been seeing Ramone Russell answer fans inquiries about why they were banned over the past couple of days.

Over the weekend, Ramone also posted in the SCEA Forums reiterating that breaking the rules and standards of the community could result in a console and PSN ID being banned.

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	"If a player is found cheating, exploiting, harassing other players, or breaking the rules in game or here on The Show Nation forums, we will suspend the account for a limited time or even permanently ban the ID and console. This isn't new and we've always been on the lookout for these types of players, but it's important to remind the community of the potential consequences that may await players if they decide to travel down the dark path."

Also of note via TheShowNation (Victor_SDS)

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	There was an exploit related to cancelling transactions on the marketplace. If someone took advantage of this exploit egregiously, their ID would have been flagged and banned. Flipping cards on the market is not an offense. Buying and quick selling is not an offense. It had more process than just cancelling an order.

A number of players were banned in the past few days according to Ramone's Twitter Feed:

"We banned a number of users who exploited community market transactions. Bans will not be reversed, fyi flipping cards IS NOT an exploit.

Flipping cards doesn't get you banned, we encourage flipped cards, flipping cards is good for everyone."

Several users were quick to claim innocence but it appears Russell came armed with info, telling at least one user they were in the top 1% of offenders of the glitch. In fact, the SCEA investigation into the matter was three weeks long and involved multiple runs and checks of the same data.

This was a bold move by SCEA to protect the online gaming experience for many MLB The Show users. While bans are nothing new in the online gaming world, it does appear SCEA has taken some pretty dramatic steps in order to safeguard the online experience for gamers. While some of the bans are permanent, others are temporary and will last anywhere from days to weeks to months.

What do you think of the bans? Was SCEA right? Is this a good move?

UPDATE (6-30): via Twitter

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	We hear your concerns. This is very important to us. We are looking into it. We thank you for your patience. More to come soon.

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# 201 countryboy @ 06/30/16 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by yankeesgiants


	Punishment varies by offense. Line 2 says ID's & consoles are on the table

Ok thanks

# 202 Jason_19 @ 06/30/16 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NYGiants4Natic


	if you are banned then you are a cheater and deserve it in my eyes. I will only say sorry if SSD removes the ban but if they dont I dont really care for excuses.

Thanks for sharing your close-minded and willfully ignorant view of the world in such a public manner. (For the record, that is blatant sarcasm.) I'm sure all the other people who blindly choose to make their minds up about things based on staments, claims and actions that are not concrete and are not necessarily indicative of anything (even what they're claiming) appreciate knowing there others like them.

The fact that people choose to say things like that is beyond mind-boggling.

# 203 countryboy @ 06/30/16 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason_19


	The fact that people choose to say things like that is beyond mind-boggling.

So is the fact of people trying to defend themselves from blatant cheating by blaming someone else.

# 204 Jason_19 @ 06/30/16 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by countryboy


	So is the fact of people trying to defend themselves from blatant cheating by blaming someone else.

While some people might be doing that, not everyone is because I'm not.

# 205 countryboy @ 06/30/16 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason_19


	While some people might be doing that, not everyone is because I'm not.

Didn't say you were.

# 206 Jason_19 @ 06/30/16 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by countryboy


	Didn't say you were.

I didn't say you were. I know that you addressed that previously that you weren't. I addressed someone clearly lumping everyone together and you choose to quote me to make another statement.

Even though there's really no reason to, if you want to discuss this further, feel free to message me. Either way, this conversation is just cluttering up the thread since we've already addressed this.

# 207 countryboy @ 06/30/16 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason_19


	I didn't say you were. I know that you addressed that previously that you weren't. I addressed someone clearly lumping everyone together and you choose to quote me to make another statement. Even though there's really no reason to, if you want to discuss this further, feel free to message me. Either way, this conversation is just cluttering up the thread since we've already addressed this.

You running around calling people's opinion of cheaters mind boggling and ignorant makes it sound as though you're going to great lengths to deflect the attention off of you and onto something/someone else.

No one has come out and said that Jason_19 is a cheater he deserves to be banned. All they, myself included, have stated is a general opinion of those who were banned and rightfully so, deserved to be banned for cheating.

You say you're innocent and were wrongfully banned. I say, you were banned for one reason or another. Its not up to me to decide if it was right or wrong because I don't know what you did that constituted the ban. But what I do know is that SCEA had a reason for banning people and didn't just ban people for the sake of banning people.

# 208 Jason_19 @ 06/30/16 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by countryboy


	You running around calling people's opinion of cheaters mind boggling and ignorant makes it sound as though you're going to great lengths to deflect the attention off of you and onto something/someone else. No one has come out and said that Jason_19 is a cheater he deserves to be banned. All they, myself included, have stated is a general opinion of those who were banned and rightfully so, deserved to be banned for cheating.

Wow. I'm not deflecting at all. I have a feeling you know that though.

The person I was quoting stated, "if you are banned then you are a cheater and deserve it in my eyes." That is clearly lumping everyone in the same category.

So, as long as people keep spouting nonsense like that, I might address them if I choose to.

This is really simple stuff.

If anyone wants to chat in an open manner about any of what's been addressed, mentioned, alluded to, et cetera without disrupting the thread, I'll freely give you my social media contact information (through messaging) where we can talk freely. I know that threads that get off-topic tend to get closed and I don't want that.

# 209 Jason_19 @ 06/30/16 04:02 PM

Also, everyone should imagine themselves in this situation - not even knowing that you did what is being stated people were banned for, et cetera. That's a freaking annoying and even upsetting situation to be in. Then to see comments like those, that is not easy to see.

# 210 countryboy @ 06/30/16 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason_19


	Wow. I'm not deflecting at all. I have a feeling you know that though. The person I was quoting stated, "if you are banned then you are a cheater and deserve it in my eyes." That is clearly lumping everyone in the same category. So, as long as people keep spouting nonsense like that, I might address them if I choose to. This is really simple stuff. If anyone wants to chat in an open manner about any of what's been addressed, mentioned, alluded to, et cetera without disrupting the thread, I'll freely give you my social media contact information (through messaging) where we can talk freely. I know that threads that get off-topic tend to get closed and I don't want that.

It is really simple.

You continue to try to separate yourself from being lumped in when nobody is personally saying that Jason_19 did something wrong. You say you're innocent but you sure don't act like it. You're trying so hard to separate yourself from a group when you really don't need to.

Every opinion is a broad stroke over what has happened. You have claimed your innocence and for all any of us know you might be. But to constantly run to defend yourself sure comes across as though something happened and you don't want it to get out.

# 211 oski96 @ 06/30/16 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason_19


	Wow. I'm not deflecting at all. I have a feeling you know that though. The person I was quoting stated, "if you are banned then you are a cheater and deserve it in my eyes." That is clearly lumping everyone in the same category. So, as long as people keep spouting nonsense like that, I might address them if I choose to. This is really simple stuff. If anyone wants to chat in an open manner about any of what's been addressed, mentioned, alluded to, et cetera without disrupting the thread, I'll freely give you my social media contact information (through messaging) where we can talk freely. I know that threads that get off-topic tend to get closed and I don't want that.

I agree with your posts.

One thing that should be noted is that when this all started, the quote from Ramone was that SDS was "100% positive" that their data successfully rooted out cheaters.

Leaving everything else aside, now that SDS issued a statement stating they are now looking into it further should tell you everything you need to know about the situation - SDS was not "100% positive" when they made the bans and were not 100% positive when the said they were.

Couple that with the fact that SDS never responded to anyone's emails on this and have not really articulated what the bannable offence is - instead, they had just issued vague statements.

Given that, for posters here to still blindly state "if you were banned, you 100% did something" is ridiculous when SDS doesn't even seem to be sure about it at this point.

# 212 Jason_19 @ 06/30/16 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by countryboy


	It is really simple. You continue to try to separate yourself from being lumped in when nobody is personally saying that Jason_19 did something wrong. You say you're innocent but you sure don't act like it. You're trying so hard to separate yourself from a group when you really don't need to. Every opinion is a broad stroke over what has happened. You have claimed your innocence and for all any of us know you might be. But to constantly run to defend yourself sure comes across as though something happened and you don't want it to get out.

Freaking wow. Thanks for your honestly, at least. I can respect that.

I literally put no faith in others because of people's lack of integrity and character these days, as well as how selfish and just psychotic people are so I can understand that, but this is the only place on the internet that I know of where I like to think that there are many people worthy of not being like about. i guess that's why that's so difficult seeing those types of comments from people I liked and had a lot of respect for. I hadn't posted here in a long time, but I still do quite a bit of reading on these forums.

If possible, I would love to invite you all view my account so you can see what exactly I'm accused of/allegedly/supposedly did. I'm not talking about that vague things that they've been Tweeting some people either. I'm talking about specific and intricate details for anyone interested in doing so - seeing where any transactions like that tool place, how much they were for, calculating totals in comparison to how many legit stubs there were on the account and everything else that could show people that I wasn't aware of anything going on.

# 213 Speedy @ 06/30/16 04:18 PM

Well.

This has not been a good year for The Show.

# 214 countryboy @ 06/30/16 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason_19


	Freaking wow. Thanks for your honestly, at least. I can respect that. I literally put no faith in others because of people's lack of integrity and character these days, as well as how selfish and just psychotic people are so I can understand that, but this is the only place on the internet that I know of where I like to think that there are many people worthy of not being like about. i guess that's why that's so difficult seeing those types of comments from people I liked and had a lot of respect for. I hadn't posted here in a long time, but I still do quite a bit of reading on these forums. If possible, I would love to invite you all view my account so you can see what exactly I'm accused of/allegedly/supposedly did. I'm not talking about that vague things that they've been Tweeting some people either. I'm talking about specific and intricate details for anyone interested in doing so - seeing where any transactions like that tool place, how much they were for, calculating totals in comparison to how many legit stubs there were on the account and everything else that could show people that I wasn't aware of anything going on.

Just some friendly advice;

You're trying way too hard to defend yourself man. Way too hard.

And you, imo, care way too much about what other people, of all places an internet message board, think about you.

If you know that you didn't do anything wrong, then all you need to do is say it once and leave it at that. Let the process play out. No need to keep defending yourself against any and all opinions those have on the subject matter at hand.

# 215 Knight165 @ 06/30/16 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy


	Well. This has not been a good year for The Show.

Online maybe.
Offline has been fantastic.

I'm all for ditching online.

(Except for the Roster Vault of course)

M.K.
Knight165

# 216 Jason_19 @ 06/30/16 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by countryboy


	Just some friendly advice; You're trying way too hard to defend yourself man. Way too hard. And you, imo, care way too much about what other people, of all places an internet message board, think about you. If you know that you didn't do anything wrong, then all you need to do is say it once and leave it at that. Let the process play out. No need to keep defending yourself against any and all opinions those have on the subject matter at hand.

Thanks, man. I can see that. I guess I just need to remember that this isn't back in the day and that things have changed a lot. As for not saying anything, that's just not my personality. That's just not who I am, but I have been trying not to say anything in certain instances. Your comment I replied to and that other person's comment from a little while ago just really rubbed me the wrong way.

# 217 Jason_19 @ 06/30/16 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight165


	Online maybe. Offline has been fantastic. I'm all for ditching online. (Except for the Roster Vault of course) M.K. Knight165

Man, you just had to mention the roster vault. haha

I can't even access the roster vault.

# 218 Knight165 @ 06/30/16 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason_19


	Man, you just had to mention the roster vault. haha I can't even access the roster vault.

Sorry.

M.K.
Knight165

# 219 elbomberoloco @ 06/30/16 05:02 PM

Just listened to a podcast with some of the top guys, who also happened to be banned, something doesn't sound right with the allegations from Sony. The top guy got an explanation and according to him his top "exploit" was for 8,200 stubs, many for 20-100 stubs. He also brought up some great points that if there was an exploit he would have gone big as I think others would have too. Also he's the top guy he could probably play with all silvers and still win, he doesn't have the need for all the studs. Another guy dropped $900 real money, with proof of receipts, and that guy gets banned? One recurring theme is these guys spend A LOT of time playing the game and the market, not sure why Sony would target them. The lack of communications from Sony is very disheartening and concerning...today it's "stub glitch" ban, but tomorrow who knows. Hard to buy a product from a company that could end your entertainment for any reason they want...

# 220 ubernoob @ 06/30/16 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by elbomberoloco


	Hard to buy a product from a company that could end your entertainment for any reason they want...

Hasn't stopped Steam from taking over the PC World.

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