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NBA 2K16 Roster Update Available Now, Details Included (1-8-16)

06:51 AM - January 8, 2016 by Steve_OS

Another NBA 2K16 roster update has arrived today, we've listed some of the changes below.

GOING UP

Kevin Durant +1 (93)
John Wall +1 (90)
Draymond Green +2 (89)
Chris Paul +1 (89)
Andre Drummond +1 (88)
DeMarcus Cousins +1 (88)
Jimmy Butler +2 (88)
Carmelo Anthony +1 (87)
Dwyane Wade +1 (86)
DeMar DeRozan +1 (86)
Pau Gasol +1 (86)
Chris Bosh +1 (85)
Nikola Vucevic +1 (84)
Reggie Jackson +1 (84)
Karl-Anthony Towns +1 (83)
Kemba Walker +2 (83)
Gordon Hayward +1 (82)
Avery Bradley +1 (81)
Manu Ginobili +1 (81)
J.J. Redick +1 (80)
Kobe Bryant +1 (78)

GOING DOWN

Tim Duncan -2 (83)
C.J. McCollum -1 (82)
Marc Gasol -2 (82)
Rudy Gay -1 (81)
Andrew Wiggins -1 (80)

Each roster update contains accessory and team color changes.

To see a more detailed breakdown of the roster update, which includes individual attribute updates, head on over to 2KMTC.

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# 141 Real2KInsider @ 01/10/16 04:25 PM

FWIW, my OVR ratings have been coming out lower than 2K's this season (Draw Foul attribute being the only notable difference in scale that accounts for about -1 OVR)

POINT GUARD
92 (-3) Stephen Curry (GSW) - All-Around Superstar
73 (-4) Derrick Rose (CHI) - Athletic Finisher
71 (-2) D'Angelo Russell (LAL) - Offensive-Minded Point

SHOOTING GUARD

SMALL FORWARD
92 (-2) LeBron James (CLE) - All-Around Superstar
77 (-1) Kobe Bryant (LAL) - Crafty Point Forward

POWER FORWARD
77 (-2) Kristaps Porzingis (NYK) - Interior Defender

CENTER
83 (NC) Karl-Anthony Towns (MIN) - All-Around Star
82 (-1) Tim Duncan (SAS) - Two-Way Star
73 (-5) Jahlil Okafor (PHI) - Inside Scorer

# 142 coolcras7 @ 01/10/16 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ksuttonjr76


	There's not enough time in the world to watch every NBA game...Sometimes you have to rely on stats and highlights.

And as I said Stats don't always tell the whole story.

# 143 Real2KInsider @ 01/10/16 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MoneyOvaHuds


	Again nobody is disputing Rose has been bad this year , we're disputing the last 10 games from him . If you can use those Stats instead of BSing and cherry picking stats that's would be good .[

Which continues to dance around the point that Rose was considerably overrated prior to those 10 games.

It's not like he has been gangbusters over that stretch either.

22 3PT%
4.2 APG (34 MPG - this is awful for a starting PG)
0.6 SPG
3.3 TO

He is shooting 26% outside of 15 feet on the year. 10 games don't change his broken jump shot. His play and production are merely meeting in the middle; it's hardly a given that Rose will build on his "enhanced" production either - it's just as likely that he falls back down to earth when the schedule toughens up again.

# 144 Real2KInsider @ 01/10/16 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by coolcras7


	And as I said Stats don't always tell the whole story.

Nor do untrained eyeballs.

# 145 coolcras7 @ 01/10/16 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rashidi


	1. This is picked up by stats pretty easily. 2. The fact that Rose is so thoroughly mediocre that he has to share ball handling responsibilities with his off-guard is not exactly a good look. Playing off an all-star means there's no excuse for his dismal shooting. 3. The Bulls are 22nd offensively for a reason. Rose: 26 USG%, 44 TS%, 1.8 A/T Gasol: 25 USG%, 51 TS%, 1.6 A/T Butler: 24 USG%, 57 TS%, 2.1 A/T Dumbed down Rose: 14.6 PPG on 15.6 FGA (lol); 39 FG%, 23 3PT%, 74 FT% Gasol: 16.5 PPG on 14.2 FGA; 46 FG%, 30 3PT%, 80 FT% Butler: 22.1 PPG on 15.9 FGA; 46 FG%, 33 3PT%, 83 FT% Do you think that ranking lies at the feet of Gasol or Butler? 1. Stats are pretty important, and your overall tone towards them is why Beds won't take your concern seriously. 2. Good luck editing 450+ players with your majestic, unbiased eyes. Reading your rhetoric one would almost believe Rose is outplaying any of his peers. Starting PGs w/ similar OVR or lower: 78 - Ricky Rubio: 18.2 PER, 49 TS%, 18 USG%, 44 AST% (5th in NBA), 3.8 STL% (leads league), 3.9 A/T 78 - Deron Williams: 15.7 PER, 54 TS%, 22 USG%, 29 AST%, 1.7 STL%, 2.3 A/T 78 - Michael Carter-Williams: 15.7 PER, 51 TS%, 22 USG%, 30 AST%, 2.5 STL%, 2.0 A/T 77 - Goran Dragic: 13.9 PER, 53 TS%, 20 USG%, 26 AST%, 1.7 STL%, 2.0 A/T 77 - Derrick Rose: 10.6 PER, 44 TS%, 25 USG%, 26 AST%, 1.0 STL%, 1.8 A/T 76 - Ish Smith: 17.2 PER, 48 TS%, 24 USG%, 44 AST%, 2.1 STL%, 3.1 A/T 76 - Elfrid Payton: 14.4 PER, 47 TS%, 22 USG%, 31 AST%, 2.5 STL%, 2.5 A/T 75 - Jarrett Jack: 15.0 PER, 51 TS%, 22 USG%, 36 AST%, 1.7 STL%, 2.5 A/T 75 - Patrick Beverley: 11.7 PER, 55 TS%, 16 USG%, 16 AST%, 2.3 STL%, 2.0 A/T He's not any better than the bottom of the barrel. 74 - Jose Calderon: 13.2 PER, 60 TS%, 12 USG%, 22 AST%, 1.7 STL%, 3.3 A/T 73 - D'Angelo Russell: 12.9 PER, 49 TS%, 23 USG%, 22 AST%, 2.2 STL%, 1.5 A/T 70 - Raul Neto: 10.2 PER, 50 TS%, 17 USG%, 20 AST%, 2.8 STL%, 1.7 A/T All hail Derrick Rose, victim of 2K Sports and definitely not his own shoddy play.

You have to be one of the most arrogant people on this site, I was using Rose as an example of how just relaying of Stats as the bases of making a player unusable in the game is flawed, so what do you do present me with more stats, thanks, and did you really just say that sharing the ball handling responsibility with multiple people on the team represents a flaw, really that says a lot about your knowledge of basketball beyond the stat sheets, the 2015-2106 offense is based on ball movement and multiple people touching the ball.

# 146 Real2KInsider @ 01/10/16 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by coolcras7


	You have to be one of the most arrogant people on this site, I was using Rose as an example of how just relaying of Stats as the bases of making a player unusable in the game is flawed

94 Speed
91 Acceleration

"Unusable in game"

Work on your stick skills

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	the 2015-2106 offense is based on ball movement and multiple people touching the ball.

It's also about being able to hit a shot outside of 15 feet (and inside of 5 feet, for that matter).

# 147 coolcras7 @ 01/10/16 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rashidi


	94 Speed 91 Acceleration "Unusable in game" Work on your stick skills It's also about being able to hit a shot outside of 15 feet (and inside of 5 feet, for that matter).

Sorry Man, you are just not worth my time anymore, I will discuss the game with people that actually watch Basketball.

# 148 KingMansaMusa @ 01/10/16 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rashidi


	94 Speed 91 Acceleration "Unusable in game" Work on your stick skills It's also about being able to hit a shot outside of 15 feet (and inside of 5 feet, for that matter).

Haha Rashidi for the win.

# 149 Review @ 01/10/16 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rashidi


	A treat for all. Derrick Rose's ratings and my attribute edits. Derrick Rose (PG) Athletic Finisher 73 Overall (-4) OFFENSE 71 Standing Layup (-1) 80 Driving Layup (-2) 50 Post Fade (-5) 50 Post Hook (-5) 40 Post Control (-15) 35 Draw Foul (-27) 83 Standing Close (+6) 83 Moving Close (+8) 59 Standing Mid (-16) 59 Moving Mid (-16) 68 Standing 3pt (+9) 58 Moving 3pt (-1) 74 Free Throw (+2) 90 Ball Control (+2) 73 Pass Vision 75 Pass IQ (-5) 73 Pass Accuracy (-9) 33 Offensive Rebound (+2) 25 Standing Dunk 35 Driving Dunk 30 Contact Dunk 81 Shot IQ (+1) 85 Hands DEFENSE 46 Defensive Rebound 41 Block (+1) 75 Shot Contest (-4) 57 Steal 75 On-Ball Defense (-1) 40 Low Post Defense (-10) 80 Reaction Time (+1) ATHLETICISM 46 Boxout (-3) 73 Lateral Quickness 94 Speed 91 Acceleration 85 Vertical (-4) 58 Strength (-6) 88 Stamina 80 Hustle (-12) 60 Durability (+1) INTANGIBLES 55 Pass Perception (-9) 35 Defensive Consistency (-15) 75 Pick & Roll Defense (+1) 60 Help Defense (-15) 45 Offensive Consistency (-25) 25 Emotion 90 Potential (+6) This guy is complaining about Rose's athleticism ratings when he's had 94 Speed / 91 Acceleration / 89 Vertical / 64 Strength for a number of years. The only athletic attribute that dropped for Rose was his Lateral Quickness - which dropped for EVERYONE league-wide. 2K ignores most ratings talk because it is flat-out uninformed. Lots of cats have tunnel vision with regard to their favorites and simply don't have a wide-ranging grasp of the NBA landscape. I'm never reluctant to to engage in these discussions (irrespective of what snide remarks might come from the peanut gallery) because I use each one as a learning opportunity.... and having done it for 10+ years at this point, I've learned quite a lot. There are a small handful of people who understand how 2K calculates each attribute and the time/desire to apply those methods to a large pool of players without showing any bias. Mike was one of that select handful which is why 2K signs his checks now. He isn't perfect, but he is also a significant upgrade from the decade of roster work that preceded him. Anyone questioning him might want to put in the requisite research, look in the mirror, and then put in additional research to make sure they aren't blowing a fool's bugle. Alas, it's easy to write things on the internet with minimal effort.

There should be more point guards in the 70-80 range for standing layup. I've seen quite a few guards in the database with elite (85+) standing layup attributes. Huge discrepancy in your draw foul rating and 2k's. 27 points!

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# 150 ksuttonjr76 @ 01/10/16 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by coolcras7


	Sorry Man, you are just not worth my time anymore, I will discuss the game with people that actually watch Basketball.

The scary part...he does watches basketball, lol. I think he's a New York Knicks fan.

Personally, I trust the man's analysis. I used to follow his work, and download his custom rosters. I trust my eyes, and I trust the stats.

# 151 SpeedyClaxton @ 01/10/16 08:17 PM

I used to download rashidi's roster for 2k14 (last gen) they were pretty much awesome but aside from that he had that ridiculous quote..that rose is far away from westbrook and wall in dunking ability, i personally understood that as he compared Rose's dunking ability with one from Jrue Holiday lol.

# 152 coolcras7 @ 01/10/16 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ksuttonjr76


	The scary part...he does watches basketball, lol. I think he's a New York Knicks fan. Personally, I trust the man's analysis. I used to follow his work, and download his custom rosters. I trust my eyes, and I trust the stats.

No one said to ignore the stats, but there are going to misses if that's all you are using to update a roster, there is the missing element of actually watching the games. I used Rose (which someone decided was my beaf with the update) as an example as he is one of the primary 3 scoring option on the current second seed in the eastern conference, and how rating changes may have further limited his ability to score in a video game, because even though video games have come a long way we are still years away from truly capturating the true essence of a real life humans player, so we have plus and minuses take a point here and add one here and hope it translate to how the real person moves and reacts, the point I am trying to make is there has to be more that goes into it in the future.

# 153 ksuttonjr76 @ 01/10/16 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by coolcras7


	No one said to ignore the stats, but there are going to misses if that's all you are using to update a roster, there is the missing element of actually watching the games. I used Rose (which someone decided was my beaf with the update) as an example as he is one of the primary 3 scoring option on the current second seed in the eastern conference, and how rating changes may have further limited his ability to score in a video game, because even though video games have come a long way we are still years away from truly capturating the true essence of a real life humans player, so we have plus and minuses take a point here and add one here and hope it translate to how the real person moves and reacts, the point I am trying to make is there has to be more that goes into it in the future.

Well...did Beds or Rashidi said they based their rosters updates purely on stats?

# 154 coolcras7 @ 01/10/16 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ksuttonjr76


	Well...did Beds or Rashidi said they based their rosters updates purely on stats?

Dude I don't give a flying you know what about Rashidi or his rating system, he is not the one doing the ratings for the official game.

# 155 Real2KInsider @ 01/11/16 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Review


	Huge discrepancy in your draw foul rating and 2k's. 27 points!

I figured out 2K's formula for Foul Draw and adjusted it (providing a much larger range). I would like to test once I get around to finishing a few teams, as fouls are one of the biggest flaws with defense right now. In the event that it throws too much off, it will be very easy to change.

2K has the following Draw Foul ratings right now (for the players I've edited)

84 LeBron James (FTR: 37%)
83 Stephen Curry (FTR: 31%)
80 Jahlil Okafor (FTR: 26%)
74 Kobe Bryant (FTR: 27%)
73 Tim Duncan (FTR: 29%)
71 Kristaps Porzingis (FTR: 26%)
69 Karl Towns (FTR: 23%)
60 D'Angelo Russell (FTR: 12%)

It's pretty clear they are all over the place and a wider range would be nice.

# 156 Real2KInsider @ 01/11/16 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by coolcras7


	Dude I don't give a flying you know what about Rashidi or his rating system

I use 2K's rating system.

# 157 alabamarob @ 01/11/16 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rashidi


	I figured out 2K's formula for Foul Draw and adjusted it (providing a much larger range). I would like to test once I get around to finishing a few teams, as fouls are one of the biggest flaws with defense right now. In the event that it throws too much off, it will be very easy to change. 2K has the following Draw Foul ratings right now (for the players I've edited) 84 LeBron James (FTR: 37%) 83 Stephen Curry (FTR: 31%) 80 Jahlil Okafor (FTR: 26%) 74 Kobe Bryant (FTR: 27%) 73 Tim Duncan (FTR: 29%) 71 Kristaps Porzingis (FTR: 26%) 69 Karl Towns (FTR: 23%) 60 D'Angelo Russell (FTR: 12%) It's pretty clear they are all over the place and a wider range would be nice.

What do you have milsap's draw foul rating as?

# 158 Real2KInsider @ 01/11/16 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by coolcras7


	]I used Rose (which someone decided was my beaf with the update) as an example as he is one of the primary 3 scoring option on the current second seed in the eastern conference, and how rating changes may have further limited his ability to score in a video game,

Newsflash: A player shooting under 40% from the field IRL should have a limited ability to score in a video game. The only reason he is a "primary scoring option" is because he takes lots of shots, not because he is good at making them.

Derrick Rose
Rim: 72-143 (50%) - Bad (Why the whole "he could dunk if he wanted" thing is dumb)
Close: 70-167 (42%) - Good
Mid: 24-82 (29%) - Awful
3pt: 16-70 (23%) - Horrendous

Jimmy Butler
Rim: 118-177 (67%) - Good
Close: 43-129 (33%) - Below average
Mid: 54-131 (41%) - Above average
3pt: 40-121 (33%) - Below average

Pau Gasol
Rim: 70-120 (57%) - Average
Close: 73-187 (39%) - Average
Mid: 71-165 (43%) - Good
3pt: 6-20 (30%) - Below average

One of these is not like the others. Here's one for a good laugh.

Rajon Rondo
Rim: 87-125 (69%) - Great
Close: 31-92 (34%) - Below Average
Mid: 31-89 (35%) - Below Average
3pt: 25-76 (33%) - Below average

Outside 15 feet
Butler: 94-252 (37%)
Gasol: 77-185 (42%)
Rondo: 56-165 (34%)
Rose: 40-152 (26%)

Rose is such a terrible shooter he makes Rajon freaking Rondo look competent by comparison. But yeah like you were saying, Rose should have unlimited scoring ability, because did you see those last 5 games?

# 159 Hopsin @ 01/11/16 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rashidi


	Newsflash: A player shooting under 40% from the field IRL should have a limited ability to score in a video game. The only reason he is a "primary scoring option" is because he takes lots of shots, not because he is good at making them. Derrick Rose Rim: 72-143 (50%) - Bad (Why the whole "he could dunk if he wanted" thing is dumb) Close: 70-167 (42%) - Good Mid: 24-82 (29%) - Awful 3pt: 16-70 (23%) - Horrendous Jimmy Butler Rim: 118-177 (67%) - Good Close: 43-129 (33%) - Below average Mid: 54-131 (41%) - Above average 3pt: 40-121 (33%) - Below average Pau Gasol Rim: 70-120 (57%) - Average Close: 73-187 (39%) - Average Mid: 71-165 (43%) - Good 3pt: 6-20 (30%) - Below average One of these is not like the others. Here's one for a good laugh. Rajon Rondo Rim: 87-125 (69%) - Great Close: 31-92 (34%) - Below Average Mid: 31-89 (35%) - Below Average 3pt: 25-76 (33%) - Below average Outside 15 feet Butler: 94-252 (37%) Gasol: 77-185 (42%) Rondo: 56-165 (34%) Rose: 40-152 (26%) Rose is such a terrible shooter he makes Rajon freaking Rondo look competent by comparison. But yeah like you were saying, Rose should have unlimited scoring ability, because did you see those last 5 games?

Please guys.. Stop feeding this guy lol.

# 160 ksuttonjr76 @ 01/11/16 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by coolcras7


	Dude I don't give a flying you know what about Rashidi or his rating system, he is not the one doing the ratings for the official game.

I'm just asking. Your previous post implied that neither Rashidi OR Beds watches real basketball, and everything is all about the stats for them when it comes to roster updates. So, it was a simple question.

Real talk. They can't watch every game. They can't follow every team religiously. Not enough time in a day. Truth to be told, the only advantage to watching the games is that it give you more insight to how players "work for or get their numbers". It just helps in deciding whether you'll give a player a 92, 93, or 94 if player is shooting 47% from 3PT for example.

In this day and age, there's so much available data and tracking information, the infamous "eye test" is becoming extinct. I understand what you're saying, but the eye test needs to be supported by data at some point. Otherwise, it just becomes a "I don't care what the numbers say. I saw what I saw, believe what I believe, therefore it is." discussion.

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