NBA 2K16 Roster Update Available Now, Details Included (1-8-16)

[Real2KInsider]

Quote: Originally Posted by coolcras7

]I used Rose (which someone decided was my beaf with the update) as an example as he is one of the primary 3 scoring option on the current second seed in the eastern conference, and how rating changes may have further limited his ability to score in a video game,

Newsflash: A player shooting under 40% from the field IRL should have a limited ability to score in a video game. The only reason he is a "primary scoring option" is because he takes lots of shots, not because he is good at making them.

Derrick Rose
Rim: 72-143 (50%) - Bad (Why the whole "he could dunk if he wanted" thing is dumb)
Close: 70-167 (42%) - Good
Mid: 24-82 (29%) - Awful
3pt: 16-70 (23%) - Horrendous

Jimmy Butler
Rim: 118-177 (67%) - Good
Close: 43-129 (33%) - Below average
Mid: 54-131 (41%) - Above average
3pt: 40-121 (33%) - Below average

Pau Gasol
Rim: 70-120 (57%) - Average
Close: 73-187 (39%) - Average
Mid: 71-165 (43%) - Good
3pt: 6-20 (30%) - Below average

One of these is not like the others. Here's one for a good laugh.

Rajon Rondo
Rim: 87-125 (69%) - Great
Close: 31-92 (34%) - Below Average
Mid: 31-89 (35%) - Below Average
3pt: 25-76 (33%) - Below average

Outside 15 feet
Butler: 94-252 (37%)
Gasol: 77-185 (42%)
Rondo: 56-165 (34%)
Rose: 40-152 (26%)

Rose is such a terrible shooter he makes Rajon freaking Rondo look competent by comparison. But yeah like you were saying, Rose should have unlimited scoring ability, because did you see those last 5 games?

[Hopsin]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rashidi

Newsflash: A player shooting under 40% from the field IRL should have a limited ability to score in a video game. The only reason he is a "primary scoring option" is because he takes lots of shots, not because he is good at making them. Derrick Rose Rim: 72-143 (50%) - Bad (Why the whole "he could dunk if he wanted" thing is dumb) Close: 70-167 (42%) - Good Mid: 24-82 (29%) - Awful 3pt: 16-70 (23%) - Horrendous Jimmy Butler Rim: 118-177 (67%) - Good Close: 43-129 (33%) - Below average Mid: 54-131 (41%) - Above average 3pt: 40-121 (33%) - Below average Pau Gasol Rim: 70-120 (57%) - Average Close: 73-187 (39%) - Average Mid: 71-165 (43%) - Good 3pt: 6-20 (30%) - Below average One of these is not like the others. Here's one for a good laugh. Rajon Rondo Rim: 87-125 (69%) - Great Close: 31-92 (34%) - Below Average Mid: 31-89 (35%) - Below Average 3pt: 25-76 (33%) - Below average Outside 15 feet Butler: 94-252 (37%) Gasol: 77-185 (42%) Rondo: 56-165 (34%) Rose: 40-152 (26%) Rose is such a terrible shooter he makes Rajon freaking Rondo look competent by comparison. But yeah like you were saying, Rose should have unlimited scoring ability, because did you see those last 5 games?

Please guys.. Stop feeding this guy lol.

[ksuttonjr76]

Quote: Originally Posted by coolcras7

Dude I don't give a flying you know what about Rashidi or his rating system, he is not the one doing the ratings for the official game.

I'm just asking. Your previous post implied that neither Rashidi OR Beds watches real basketball, and everything is all about the stats for them when it comes to roster updates. So, it was a simple question.

Real talk. They can't watch every game. They can't follow every team religiously. Not enough time in a day. Truth to be told, the only advantage to watching the games is that it give you more insight to how players "work for or get their numbers". It just helps in deciding whether you'll give a player a 92, 93, or 94 if player is shooting 47% from 3PT for example.

In this day and age, there's so much available data and tracking information, the infamous "eye test" is becoming extinct. I understand what you're saying, but the eye test needs to be supported by data at some point. Otherwise, it just becomes a "I don't care what the numbers say. I saw what I saw, believe what I believe, therefore it is." discussion.

[Review]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rashidi

I figured out 2K's formula for Foul Draw and adjusted it (providing a much larger range). I would like to test once I get around to finishing a few teams, as fouls are one of the biggest flaws with defense right now. In the event that it throws too much off, it will be very easy to change. 2K has the following Draw Foul ratings right now (for the players I've edited) 84 LeBron James (FTR: 37%) 83 Stephen Curry (FTR: 31%) 80 Jahlil Okafor (FTR: 26%) 74 Kobe Bryant (FTR: 27%) 73 Tim Duncan (FTR: 29%) 71 Kristaps Porzingis (FTR: 26%) 69 Karl Towns (FTR: 23%) 60 D'Angelo Russell (FTR: 12%) It's pretty clear they are all over the place and a wider range would be nice.

Some really good comparison data here. Nice work. So far the only thing I've found with fouls is that it is much easier to draw a foul with "Bigs" down low. However, this could be due to opposing big men having a high (80+) foul rating tendency. Have to test more to be sure though.


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[CookNBA03]

Quote: Originally Posted by Hopsin

Please guys.. Stop feeding this guy lol.

Well, it's not like he's wrong.

[SpeedyClaxton]

Fouls are triggered by foul tendency not by actual contact that happens, so i encounter sometimes situations where attacking player is literally dragged down to the floor without foul call but also sometimes shooting foul occurs where defenders hand is approx 2 inches from ball and shooters arm..ridiculous isn't it ?

[TalenT]

Quote: Originally Posted by Rashidi

Newsflash: A player shooting under 40% from the field IRL should have a limited ability to score in a video game. The only reason he is a "primary scoring option" is because he takes lots of shots, not because he is good at making them. Derrick Rose Rim: 72-143 (50%) - Bad (Why the whole "he could dunk if he wanted" thing is dumb) Close: 70-167 (42%) - Good Mid: 24-82 (29%) - Awful 3pt: 16-70 (23%) - Horrendous Jimmy Butler Rim: 118-177 (67%) - Good Close: 43-129 (33%) - Below average Mid: 54-131 (41%) - Above average 3pt: 40-121 (33%) - Below average Pau Gasol Rim: 70-120 (57%) - Average Close: 73-187 (39%) - Average Mid: 71-165 (43%) - Good 3pt: 6-20 (30%) - Below average One of these is not like the others. Here's one for a good laugh. Rajon Rondo Rim: 87-125 (69%) - Great Close: 31-92 (34%) - Below Average Mid: 31-89 (35%) - Below Average 3pt: 25-76 (33%) - Below average Outside 15 feet Butler: 94-252 (37%) Gasol: 77-185 (42%) Rondo: 56-165 (34%) Rose: 40-152 (26%) Rose is such a terrible shooter he makes Rajon freaking Rondo look competent by comparison. But yeah like you were saying, Rose should have unlimited scoring ability, because did you see those last 5 games?

You're being ridiculous man. Nobody's saying he should be this unstoppable force. All we're saying is his attributes shouldn't be decreased based on his recent play. Are you justifying going DOWN after playing well? And you're comparing stats from the entire year. We're specifically referring to recent play which is the whole point of a "roster update". If you play well, you go up and vice versa. You don't say "Well, he sucked the whole first quarter of the year so that nullifies his last 5 games because that can't be who he is as a player." Lol ....Especially in Rose's case coming off an eye injury w/ blurry vision.

[Hopsin]

Quote: Originally Posted by TalenT

You're being ridiculous man. Nobody's saying he should be this unstoppable force. All we're saying is his attributes shouldn't be decreased based on his recent play. Are you justifying going DOWN after playing well? And you're comparing stats from the entire year. We're specifically referring to recent play which is the whole point of a "roster update". If you play well, you go up and vice versa. You don't say "Well, he sucked the whole first quarter of the year so that nullifies his last 5 games because that can't be who he is as a player." Lol ....Especially in Rose's case coming off an eye injury w/ blurry vision.

This is why I said stop feeding this guy.. He's not listening lol.