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06:51 AM - January 8, 2016 by Steve_OS

Another NBA 2K16 roster update has arrived today, we've listed some of the changes below.

GOING UP

Kevin Durant +1 (93)
John Wall +1 (90)
Draymond Green +2 (89)
Chris Paul +1 (89)
Andre Drummond +1 (88)
DeMarcus Cousins +1 (88)
Jimmy Butler +2 (88)
Carmelo Anthony +1 (87)
Dwyane Wade +1 (86)
DeMar DeRozan +1 (86)
Pau Gasol +1 (86)
Chris Bosh +1 (85)
Nikola Vucevic +1 (84)
Reggie Jackson +1 (84)
Karl-Anthony Towns +1 (83)
Kemba Walker +2 (83)
Gordon Hayward +1 (82)
Avery Bradley +1 (81)
Manu Ginobili +1 (81)
J.J. Redick +1 (80)
Kobe Bryant +1 (78)

GOING DOWN

Tim Duncan -2 (83)
C.J. McCollum -1 (82)
Marc Gasol -2 (82)
Rudy Gay -1 (81)
Andrew Wiggins -1 (80)

Each roster update contains accessory and team color changes.

To see a more detailed breakdown of the roster update, which includes individual attribute updates, head on over to 2KMTC.

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# 121 MoneyOvaHuds @ 01/09/16 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedyClaxton


	Draft combine isn't really measurement for athleticism because it happened a long time ago, some players improved, some declined over time. For example on last year draft combine Larry Nance Jr. had 40 inch vertical but you would never tell that, most of people would choose Winslow, Cauley-Stein or someone else as better athletes, only way to determine who's better athlete now Rose or Westbrook is to get them to training facility and test them together, which will happen never so we are stuck on what we see on NBA games unfortunately.

I wasn't basing it off now tho so it was a fair assessment at the time . The argument was based off pre injury so that's the accurate info we have available to us .

And you could tell Nance is an athlete because he did a lot of athletic dunks in college and Stein was very well documented and tested at the combine to be very quick for a 7 footer who I think played CB in high school .

Athletically 5 years ago Rose and Russ on par , now It's not question Russ Is the better athlete

# 122 dnyce87 @ 01/09/16 07:07 PM

To rashidi and everyone else who is downplaying roses dunking ability BEFORE INJURIES: We are not arguing how many freaking times rose has dunked in a season, over his career, or how many poster dunks he has.

We are simply stating a fact that stats DO NOT show and often mislead people. Derrick Rose BEFORE his injuries was clear to see he was a FREAK of nature athletically LIKE westbrook LIKE wall. No one is saying he was better dunker, better poster jammer, or more dunks than westbrook and wall.

This all started because rashidi said Rose was "NOWHERE NEAR" the dunker Wall and westbrook are. All those videos that were shown proves he is in the same class as westbrook and wall when it comes to dunking ability alone. No stats, no records, NOTHING ELSE.

The present Derrick Rose is out of the conversation and deserves to have his dunk rating and tendency lowered. No argument there.

Hope this clears things up have a nice day.

# 123 MoneyOvaHuds @ 01/09/16 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rashidi


	Similarly, I also choose not to display my athleticism in the same was Russ has. You seem to be basing your opinion entirely off ancient combine results (rather than visuals, NBA game data, etc). Patrick Beverley does remind me a lot of Spencer Hawes athletically so I can see where you are coming from here.

You're very ignorant lol , Players in the NBA can be athletic but choose not to surround their game strictly on that. Rose has always had very good stop and go speed knowing the right time to display of similar to a RB .

And no I'm displaying some of my opinion on documented data when comparing to players physical ability when both played around the same time in the league . Obviously not now because Russ is the better Athlete . Both players 5 years ago were the two of the most athletic PGs the league have seen and were the new breed .

# 124 SpeedyClaxton @ 01/09/16 07:20 PM

well for me that dunk over Dragic Rose done is one of better dunks i've seen

# 125 dnyce87 @ 01/09/16 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedyClaxton


	well for me that dunk over Dragic Rose done is one of better dunks i've seen

That was just disgusting and in mark jacksons words "Disregard to human life" lol

# 126 Hopsin @ 01/09/16 08:28 PM

I feel like we got off subject tbh. Arguing his dunk ability is pointless, just like arguing with Rashidi is.
The real problem is why is his stats steadily going down when he is playing very good ball. It makes no sense.

# 127 coolcras7 @ 01/09/16 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dnyce87


	To rashidi and everyone else who is downplaying roses dunking ability BEFORE INJURIES: We are not arguing how many freaking times rose has dunked in a season, over his career, or how many poster dunks he has. We are simply stating a fact that stats DO NOT show and often mislead people. Derrick Rose BEFORE his injuries was clear to see he was a FREAK of nature athletically LIKE westbrook LIKE wall. No one is saying he was better dunker, better poster jammer, or more dunks than westbrook and wall. This all started because rashidi said Rose was "NOWHERE NEAR" the dunker Wall and westbrook are. All those videos that were shown proves he is in the same class as westbrook and wall when it comes to dunking ability alone. No stats, no records, NOTHING ELSE. The present Derrick Rose is out of the conversation and deserves to have his dunk rating and tendency lowered. No argument there. Hope this clears things up have a nice day.

I think most people would have been fine if it was only his dunking attributes taking a hit, but all but the 1-7-15 roster had him taking a major decrease in a multitude of attributes, if this was the beginning of the season I would say fine, but really now it makes no sense.

# 128 Crea8vity @ 01/09/16 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by coolcras7


	I think most people would have been fine if it was only his dunking attributes taking a hit, but all but the 1-7-15 roster had him taking a major decrease in a multitude of attributes, if this was the beginning of the season I would say fine, but really now it makes no sense.

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Originally Posted by Hopsin


	I feel like we got off subject tbh. Arguing his dunk ability is pointless, just like arguing with Rashidi is. The real problem is why is his stats steadily going down when he is playing very good ball. It makes no sense.

Exactly... it makes no sense at all to a point where I think Beds has a major problem with Rose

# 129 ksuttonjr76 @ 01/09/16 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MoneyOvaHuds


	You're very ignorant lol , Players in the NBA can be athletic but choose not to surround their game strictly on that. Rose has always had very good stop and go speed knowing the right time to display of similar to a RB . And no I'm displaying some of my opinion on documented data when comparing to players physical ability when both played around the same time in the league . Obviously not now because Russ is the better Athlete . Both players 5 years ago were the two of the most athletic PGs the league have seen and were the new breed .

No one said Rose wasn't an athletic PG. We're just saying he's not on the same level of a dunker as Westbrook. It's like comparing Vince Carter to Jason Richardson (not comparing their stardom). Both players are athletic, but one is clearly a better in game dunker than the other.

# 130 dnyce87 @ 01/10/16 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ksuttonjr76


	No one said Rose wasn't an athletic PG. We're just saying he's not on the same level of a dunker as Westbrook. It's like comparing Vince Carter to Jason Richardson (not comparing their stardom). Both players are athletic, but one is clearly a better in game dunker than the other.

Both guys have a different style of play. Westbrook relied more on raw athletic ability to punish the defense whereas rose relied more on his skill and acrobatics, but can be an explosive dunker if need be and clearly shown in the videos. So many instances of players who were athletic as fu**, but didn't apply it in game it doesn't mean that the player who dunks more or on people in a game is more athletic or a better overall dunker. It just means their tendency to dunk and frequency of successful in game dunks are better.

If we're talking strictly in game dunking yes I would give it to westbrook as he is much more prone to try and slam it home. As far as dunking ability/creativity/verticality, prime Rose was right there with Westbrook. Two different topics: In game dunking vs Dunking ability and let's not get that confused.

As I said before, to say that Rose WAS nowhere near the dunker Wall & Westbrook is, that is just blasphemy; if the videos aren't enough to show that dunking ability/creativity/verticality then idk what is. I don't want to drag this out as it is derailing the thread, so this is my last chime on the rose/westbrook debate. We agree to disagree I guess.

# 131 ksuttonjr76 @ 01/10/16 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dnyce87


	Both guys have a different style of play. Westbrook relied more on raw athletic ability to punish the defense whereas rose relied more on his skill and acrobatics, but can be an explosive dunker if need be and clearly shown in the videos. So many instances of players who were athletic as fu**, but didn't apply it in game it doesn't mean that the player who dunks more or on people in a game is more athletic or a better overall dunker. It just means their tendency to dunk and frequency of successful in game dunks are better. If we're talking strictly in game dunking yes I would give it to westbrook as he is much more prone to try and slam it home. As far as dunking ability/creativity/verticality, prime Rose was right there with Westbrook. Two different topics: In game dunking vs Dunking ability and let's not get that confused. As I said before, to say that Rose WAS nowhere near the dunker Wall & Westbrook is, that is just blasphemy; if the videos aren't enough to show that dunking ability/creativity/verticality then idk what is. I don't want to drag this out as it is derailing the thread, so this is my last chime on the rose/westbrook debate. We agree to disagree I guess.

What defines a player over time is what he do on the court consistently, and not what's he capable of or have the potential to do. Either he does it, or he don't. Most of the NBA 2K ratings are performance based.

Hence, I going to be more specific. Rose is no where near to being a dunker that can do it in traffic, over defender(s), and with the level of success that Westbrook has been able to do it. Rose and Westbrook, based on in game performances over multiple seasons, are not equal NBA dunkers while the game is being played.

We'll agree to disagree.

# 132 BoriquenIntel @ 01/10/16 02:09 AM

Not to painfully drag this topic any longer but it was much too tempting..

Okay, we all know Rashidi is a scouting master. Yet, to say D. Rose was "nowhere near" the dunker R. Westbrook because he didn't dunk as much is borderline folly.

Imo, just because you dunk more than someone else in a game doesn't mean you're a better dunker, per se. It might mean that you just have more length (height, wingspan, size of hands, etc.) or that your position on the floor involves you being closer to the basket.

That's like saying prime JR Smith is nowhere near the dunker Quincy Acy is because Quincy Acy dunks more often. Which might be half true, depending on what definition we're using for "dunker".

Overall, at max health, I'd give R. Westbrook the edge over a prime D. Rose in dunking ability in games. R. Westbrook is the longer guy and he simply likes dunking more. If it were a dunk contest it would be a toss up.

What an interesting topic lol

# 133 Real2KInsider @ 01/10/16 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by coolcras7


	I think most people would have been fine if it was only his dunking attributes taking a hit, but all but the 1-7-15 roster had him taking a major decrease in a multitude of attributes, if this was the beginning of the season I would say fine, but really now it makes no sense.

Nobody has yet to post any specific attributes in their examples, the only thing that got mentioned is dunk rating. Rose's jumper has been garb, assists and steals are at an all-time low, but he is supposed to be going up cuz 5 games cancel out the first 25 apparently

# 134 jk31 @ 01/10/16 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ksuttonjr76


	The Pacers decreases continue...I wish he would touch up the defensive ratings as much as he touches the offense ratings...

THIS

George Hill still is not even a mediocre defender in the game...It's a shame... The Pacers are Top 10 in Offense AND in Defense but in the game, they don't have any good defenders beside Paul George and Ian Mahinmi!

# 135 coolcras7 @ 01/10/16 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rashidi


	Nobody has yet to post any specific attributes in their examples, the only thing that got mentioned is dunk rating. Rose's jumper has been garb, assists and steals are at an all-time low, but he is supposed to be going up cuz 5 games cancel out the first 25 apparently

Are you watching the games or looking at the stats or highlights after the fact and if so that's your problem, and that's Bed problem as well. The fact is some attributes have a major impact on how you can play with him in the game, because of the limitations of the game vs real life. Beds has made Rose primarily a guy who can only score in the paint which again is fine,but limited his ability to get in the paint, his Lateral quickness dropped 8 points, Shot IO 8 points, hands 13 points. Rose is not a stupid basketball player he is fully aware of the limitation of his body and has been playing more to his strengths, so why did his shot IQ recently take a hit, again if you just look at the stats you will think well he is only shooting whatever percent but if you watch the a game you would see he is getting hammered in the paint and not getting foul calls, or that he will not run full speed up and down the court but alters his speed to maneuver through the defense he is not a blow by slasher i.e. a Westbrook.

PS: Assist are going to take a hit is he is sharing the ball handling responsibilities with Butler, again watching a game vs looking at stats.

# 136 MoneyOvaHuds @ 01/10/16 02:01 PM

Spot on , nice post

# 137 Real2KInsider @ 01/10/16 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by coolcras7


	PS: Assist are going to take a hit is he is sharing the ball handling responsibilities with Butler, again watching a game vs looking at stats.

1. This is picked up by stats pretty easily.
2. The fact that Rose is so thoroughly mediocre that he has to share ball handling responsibilities with his off-guard is not exactly a good look. Playing off an all-star means there's no excuse for his dismal shooting.
3. The Bulls are 22nd offensively for a reason.

Rose: 26 USG%, 44 TS%, 1.8 A/T
Gasol: 25 USG%, 51 TS%, 1.6 A/T
Butler: 24 USG%, 57 TS%, 2.1 A/T

Dumbed down
Rose: 14.6 PPG on 15.6 FGA (lol); 39 FG%, 23 3PT%, 74 FT%
Gasol: 16.5 PPG on 14.2 FGA; 46 FG%, 30 3PT%, 80 FT%
Butler: 22.1 PPG on 15.9 FGA; 46 FG%, 33 3PT%, 83 FT%

Do you think that ranking lies at the feet of Gasol or Butler?

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	Are you watching the games or looking at the stats or highlights after the fact and if so that's your problem, and that's Bed problem as well

1. Stats are pretty important, and your overall tone towards them is why Beds won't take your concern seriously.
2. Good luck editing 450+ players with your majestic, unbiased eyes.

Reading your rhetoric one would almost believe Rose is outplaying any of his peers.

Starting PGs w/ similar OVR or lower:
78 - Ricky Rubio: 18.2 PER, 49 TS%, 18 USG%, 44 AST% (5th in NBA), 3.8 STL% (leads league), 3.9 A/T
78 - Deron Williams: 15.7 PER, 54 TS%, 22 USG%, 29 AST%, 1.7 STL%, 2.3 A/T
78 - Michael Carter-Williams: 15.7 PER, 51 TS%, 22 USG%, 30 AST%, 2.5 STL%, 2.0 A/T
77 - Goran Dragic: 13.9 PER, 53 TS%, 20 USG%, 26 AST%, 1.7 STL%, 2.0 A/T
77 - Derrick Rose: 10.6 PER, 44 TS%, 25 USG%, 26 AST%, 1.0 STL%, 1.8 A/T
76 - Ish Smith: 17.2 PER, 48 TS%, 24 USG%, 44 AST%, 2.1 STL%, 3.1 A/T
76 - Elfrid Payton: 14.4 PER, 47 TS%, 22 USG%, 31 AST%, 2.5 STL%, 2.5 A/T
75 - Jarrett Jack: 15.0 PER, 51 TS%, 22 USG%, 36 AST%, 1.7 STL%, 2.5 A/T
75 - Patrick Beverley: 11.7 PER, 55 TS%, 16 USG%, 16 AST%, 2.3 STL%, 2.0 A/T
He's not any better than the bottom of the barrel.
74 - Jose Calderon: 13.2 PER, 60 TS%, 12 USG%, 22 AST%, 1.7 STL%, 3.3 A/T
73 - D'Angelo Russell: 12.9 PER, 49 TS%, 23 USG%, 22 AST%, 2.2 STL%, 1.5 A/T
70 - Raul Neto: 10.2 PER, 50 TS%, 17 USG%, 20 AST%, 2.8 STL%, 1.7 A/T

All hail Derrick Rose, victim of 2K Sports and definitely not his own shoddy play.

# 138 ksuttonjr76 @ 01/10/16 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by coolcras7


	Are you watching the games or looking at the stats or highlights after the fact and if so that's your problem, and that's Bed problem as well. The fact is some attributes have a major impact on how you can play with him in the game, because of the limitations of the game vs real life. Beds has made Rose primarily a guy who can only score in the paint which again is fine,but limited his ability to get in the paint, his Lateral quickness dropped 8 points, Shot IO 8 points, hands 13 points. Rose is not a stupid basketball player he is fully aware of the limitation of his body and has been playing more to his strengths, so why did his shot IQ recently take a hit, again if you just look at the stats you will think well he is only shooting whatever percent but if you watch the a game you would see he is getting hammered in the paint and not getting foul calls, or that he will not run full speed up and down the court but alters his speed to maneuver through the defense he is not a blow by slasher i.e. a Westbrook. PS: Assist are going to take a hit is he is sharing the ball handling responsibilities with Butler, again watching a game vs looking at stats.

There's not enough time in the world to watch every NBA game...Sometimes you have to rely on stats and highlights.

# 139 Real2KInsider @ 01/10/16 04:19 PM

A treat for all.

Derrick Rose's ratings and my attribute edits.

Derrick Rose (PG)
Athletic Finisher
73 Overall (-4)

OFFENSE
71 Standing Layup (-1)
80 Driving Layup (-2)
50 Post Fade (-5)
50 Post Hook (-5)
40 Post Control (-15)
35 Draw Foul (-27)
83 Standing Close (+6)
83 Moving Close (+8)
59 Standing Mid (-16)
59 Moving Mid (-16)
68 Standing 3pt (+9)
58 Moving 3pt (-1)
74 Free Throw (+2)
90 Ball Control (+2)
73 Pass Vision
75 Pass IQ (-5)
73 Pass Accuracy (-9)
33 Offensive Rebound (+2)
25 Standing Dunk
35 Driving Dunk
30 Contact Dunk
81 Shot IQ (+1)
85 Hands

DEFENSE
46 Defensive Rebound
41 Block (+1)
75 Shot Contest (-4)
57 Steal
75 On-Ball Defense (-1)
40 Low Post Defense (-10)
80 Reaction Time (+1)

ATHLETICISM
46 Boxout (-3)
73 Lateral Quickness
94 Speed
91 Acceleration
85 Vertical (-4)
58 Strength (-6)
88 Stamina
80 Hustle (-12)
60 Durability (+1)

INTANGIBLES
55 Pass Perception (-9)
35 Defensive Consistency (-15)
75 Pick & Roll Defense (+1)
60 Help Defense (-15)
45 Offensive Consistency (-25)
25 Emotion
90 Potential (+6)

This guy is complaining about Rose's athleticism ratings when he's had 94 Speed / 91 Acceleration / 89 Vertical / 64 Strength for a number of years. The only athletic attribute that dropped for Rose was his Lateral Quickness - which dropped for EVERYONE league-wide.

2K ignores most ratings talk because it is flat-out uninformed. Lots of cats have tunnel vision with regard to their favorites and simply don't have a wide-ranging grasp of the NBA landscape. I'm never reluctant to to engage in these discussions (irrespective of what snide remarks might come from the peanut gallery) because I use each one as a learning opportunity.... and having done it for 10+ years at this point, I've learned quite a lot.

There are a small handful of people who understand how 2K calculates each attribute and the time/desire to apply those methods to a large pool of players without showing any bias. Mike was one of that select handful which is why 2K signs his checks now. He isn't perfect, but he is also a significant upgrade from the decade of roster work that preceded him. Anyone questioning him might want to put in the requisite research, look in the mirror, and then put in additional research to make sure they aren't blowing a fool's bugle. Alas, it's easy to write things on the internet with minimal effort.

# 140 MoneyOvaHuds @ 01/10/16 04:22 PM

Again nobody is disputing Rose has been bad this year , we're disputing the last 10 games from him . If you can use those Stats instead of BSing and cherry picking stats that's would be good .

Rose deserved to to get a decline rather it was his double vision or not but his resent play and decline is very questionable.

Rose shot iq dropped tremendously Is a lil odd seeing his shot selection has been actually decent it just isn't falling , last season I would agree wit the decline because he was taking the worst shots I've ever seen with like 5 3pt attempts . He barley takes 2 to 3 this year

Again Rose stats as a whole will support anybody argument of him being a terrible player but what's the point of week to week or daily roster updates if you aren't going off current play ? Rose current play didn't warrant the decline plain and simple.

Rose has been driving a lot more this season and his stats will prob always take a hit FG wise because he never gets foul calls . Before the Hawks game Rose been to the FT line 0 times since December 28th although he only played 2 games in that span but in that bucks and Celtics game he drove and took a ton of times without getting a call .

Anyway I hope Rose keeps getting this collection of games under him and he gets more confidence. Just a week or two ago I think his FG % was 35% .

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