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2K Sports has just revealed the final two teams added to the NBA 2K16 classic teams list. With the '06-'07 Cleveland Cavaliers & '03-'04 Minnesota Timberwolves announced today, here are the 12 confirmed classic teams added to the game.
  • '06-'07 Cleveland Cavaliers
  • '03-'04 Minnesota Timberwolves
  • '04-'05 Phoenix Suns
  • '05-'06 Miami Heat
  • '12-'13 Miami Heat
  • '03-'04 Detroit Pistons
  • '07-'08 Houston Rockets
  • '99-'00 Toronto Raptors
  • '07-08 Boston Celtics
  • '00-'01 Los Angeles Lakers
  • '02-'03 Dallas Mavericks
  • '99-'00 Portland Trail Blazers

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# 241 LeBronistheKing @ 09/14/15 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ojandpizza
He's was only on one team... People reacting like there are 10 LeBron squads.


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Michael Jordan is on 6 teams
Scottie Pippen is on 6 teams
Shaquille O'Neal is on 4 teams
Dennis Rodman is on 3 teams
Robert Horry is on 3 teams
Magic Johnson is on 2 teams


These are the 2000s era all star tier players

Kobe Bryant is on 3 teams
Kevin Garnett is on 3 teams
Dwyane Wade is on 3 teams
LeBron James is on 3 teams
Dirk Novitkski is on 2 teams
Steve Nash is on 2 teams
Vince Carter is on 2 teams
Tracy McGrady is on 2 teams
Ray Allen is on 2 teams
Paul Pierce is on 2 teams
Amare Stoudemire is on 2 teams
Rasheed Wallace is on 2 teams
Joe Johnson is on 2 teams

Who are the most accomplished and historically dominant players in that list?
Who are the players most would consider in the same class or tier as LeBron James?
Do most if not all of those players have more than 3 versions of themselves in the game? Is it really so outrageous for LeBron to be on 2 historic teams and his current Cavaliers team?
 
# 242 Rockie_Fresh88 @ 09/14/15 09:34 AM
Hope u can create /export/ download grand this year . So far I want 07 Warriors , 2001? Kings, 2003? Nets
 
# 243 BobbyColtrane @ 09/14/15 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by LeBronistheKing
Michael Jordan is on 6 teams
Scottie Pippen is on 6 teams
Shaquille O'Neal is on 4 teams
Dennis Rodman is on 3 teams
Robert Horry is on 3 teams
Magic Johnson is on 2 teams


These are the 2000s era all star tier players

Kobe Bryant is on 3 teams
Kevin Garnett is on 3 teams
Dwyane Wade is on 3 teams
LeBron James is on 3 teams
Dirk Novitkski is on 2 teams
Steve Nash is on 2 teams
Vince Carter is on 2 teams
Tracy McGrady is on 2 teams
Ray Allen is on 2 teams
Paul Pierce is on 2 teams
Amare Stoudemire is on 2 teams
Rasheed Wallace is on 2 teams
Joe Johnson is on 2 teams

Who are the most accomplished and historically dominant players in that list?
Who are the players most would consider in the same class or tier as LeBron James?
Do most if not all of those players have more than 3 versions of themselves in the game? Is it really so outrageous for LeBron to be on 2 historic teams and his current Cavaliers team?
needs more Duncan
 
# 244 Mauer4MVP @ 09/14/15 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ojandpizza
What's so great about the Wolves with KG, Raptors with VC, Rockets, etc.. Lots of pointless teams added.


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Wolves you get prime KG (top 25 player all-time) prime Sam I am and a team that could have won the title if healthy.
Raptors, well you get VC. He had a huge impact in the 2000s.
And the Rockets you get Yao and an older T-Mac (even if he wasn't great by that point).
 
# 245 Real2KInsider @ 09/14/15 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by ojandpizza
What's so great about the Wolves with KG, Raptors with VC, Rockets, etc.. Lots of pointless teams added.
The main reason the Raptors were added

C: Antonio Davis, Kevin Willis
PF: Charles Oakley
SF: Vince Carter
SG: Tracy McGrady, Doug Christie, Dell Curry
PG: Muggsy Bogues, Alvin Williams, Dee Brown

These players already appear on current or classic teams.
They more or less double-dipped by getting T-Mac for the 08 Rockets.

They are a classic "video game team" (two young dunking stars), rather than historic. It's largely a free inclusion based upon what 2K is already paying.
 
# 246 VDusen04 @ 09/14/15 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Mauer4MVP
Wolves you get prime KG (top 25 player all-time) prime Sam I am and a team that could have won the title if healthy.
Raptors, well you get VC. He had a huge impact in the 2000s.
And the Rockets you get Yao and an older T-Mac (even if he wasn't great by that point).
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Originally Posted by Rashidi
The main reason the Raptors were added

C: Antonio Davis, Kevin Willis
PF: Charles Oakley
SF: Vince Carter
SG: Tracy McGrady, Doug Christie, Dell Curry
PG: Muggsy Bogues, Alvin Williams, Dee Brown

These players already appear on current or classic teams.
They more or less double-dipped by getting T-Mac for the 08 Rockets.

They are a classic "video game team" (two young dunking stars), rather than historic. It's largely a free inclusion based upon what 2K is already paying.
I think he was just saying the Cavaliers weren't the only non-championship type of team to be included; that squads were brought on board for various reasons. Could be wrong though.
 
# 247 ojandpizza @ 09/14/15 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mauer4MVP
Wolves you get prime KG (top 25 player all-time) prime Sam I am and a team that could have won the title if healthy.
Raptors, well you get VC. He had a huge impact in the 2000s.
And the Rockets you get Yao and an older T-Mac (even if he wasn't great by that point).

So basically nothing that is anything more deserving than the best player of this generation at his peak athleticism on a squad that made the finals then?


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# 248 SaruAqua @ 09/14/15 05:29 PM
I'm going to ask again, are the player models on those 2000's classic teams different then the ones from today? For example, it be disappointing if '06 Wade looks exactly like '13 Wade.
 
# 249 LeBronistheKing @ 09/14/15 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SaruAqua
I'm going to ask again, are the player models on those 2000's classic teams different then the ones from today? For example, it be disappointing if '06 Wade looks exactly like '13 Wade.
This is my main concern as well. What would be the point if the player models were not accurate?
 
# 250 Sellaz32 @ 09/14/15 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by LeBronistheKing
This is my main concern as well. What would be the point if the player models were not accurate?

Surely there will be differences. Many of the classic teams that have been there since 2k12 have reflected differences for different seasons such as Magic's goatee taken off for the 91 team and AC Greens different hairstyle. Gotta assume they will account for that for a player like LeBron or DWade.

Of course...it will probably depend on how distinct the difference. They will probably just use younger portraits on many of the players...


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# 251 LeBronistheKing @ 09/14/15 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Sellaz32
Surely there will be differences. Many of the classic teams that have been there since 2k12 have reflected differences for different seasons such as Magic's goatee taken off for the 91 team and AC Greens different hairstyle. Gotta assume they will account for that for a player like LeBron or DWade.

Of course...it will probably depend on how distinct the difference. They will probably just use younger portraits on many of the players...


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I certainly hope they don't go as lazy as just using younger portraits with the same player models.

This is 2007 Cavaliers LeBron



This is 2013 Heat LeBron



This is current LeBron



Differing facial hair, hairline, and hairstyles. As well as different physique and different tattoos.
 
# 252 LeBronistheKing @ 09/14/15 06:48 PM
And Dwyane Wade as well

2006 Wade



2013 Wade



2015 Wade



As with LeBron physique changes as does facial hair and hair style.
 
# 253 Sellaz32 @ 09/14/15 09:12 PM
Honestly, I will be surprised if they spend much time changing physique. Hairstyle and facial hair...maybe.


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# 254 SaruAqua @ 09/15/15 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Sellaz32
Honestly, I will be surprised if they spend much time changing physique. Hairstyle and facial hair...maybe.


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They don't really have to spend a crazy amount of time on these classic players. A few touchups here and there would be great. For example, look at Onyx '06 Steve Nash compared to Silver '15 Steve Nash in 2K15. Aside from his hair, his physical appearance has pretty much stayed the same all these years in real life and 2K got that right . Now look at Ruby '98 Kobe compared to '15 Kobe. His physical appearance has obviously changed alot during that 17 year timespan in real life but 2K didn't get it right. Kobe's player model looked exactly the same, minus the afro/goatee.


I'm putting my trust that they would do this. The feel for the game would be greater knowing that you're truly playing w/ '07 Bron, '06 Wade, '05 Amar'e, or '00 Carter. I don't know, that's just my opinion on this matter.
 
# 255 Taer @ 09/15/15 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SaruAqua
They don't really have to spend a crazy amount of time on these classic players. A few touchups here and there would be great.

I'm putting my trust that they would do this. The feel for the game would be greater knowing that you're truly playing w/ '07 Bron, '06 Wade, '05 Amar'e, or '00 Carter. Lastly, I don't want to be "that guy" but getting I'm hoping 2K would get the players' ages correctly.
What you are asking is a lot more time and resource intensive than you think. At least one artist will need to do these changes and most likely an engineer would be involved. I only have experience working with the artist on models of this nature, so I can only speak on that.

I'm expecting no updating/changes so that any done will be pleasant surprises. I suggest doing the same or you risk disappointment.
 
# 256 Sundown @ 09/15/15 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Taer
What you are asking is a lot more time and resource intensive than you think. At least one artist will need to do these changes and most likely an engineer would be involved. I only have experience working with the artist on models of this nature, so I can only speak on that.

I'm expecting no updating/changes so that any done will be pleasant surprises. I suggest doing the same or you risk disappointment.
Given 2K's system of being able to scale weights and builds, it shouldn't take much time to at least improve on younger versions of players. It definitely would take more effort to update faces however.
 
# 257 ojandpizza @ 09/15/15 02:13 AM
They really don't need to alter the body styles. These guys have made some changes to their physique but it's not like 2K has 30 different body types to choose from. The ones the current versions of these guys have will be as close as it gets anyways.

Hopefully faces/hair and tats are matching the younger/older versions though.


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# 258 LeBronistheKing @ 09/16/15 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by VinsanityLives
Agreed on the fact player models and faces and authenticity, at least for the stars, needs to be right. I can't play with a 37 year old player model Vince Carter, with a beard and same accessories on the 2000 raptors. I also think we need a younger looking lebron on the Cavs to give it an actual purpose of that inclusion.

This is truly buy or sell point for me as I'm really into the retro teams. Do it right 2k..

BTW anyone know if we can play these online at all? Would love to..

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Agreed. Even just getting the correct facial hair and number of tattoos that correspond to LeBron's appearance that season would go a long way to differentiating the three LeBron player models. Obviously LeBron got more tattoos as he got older. The 2007 LeBron would be the only player model that would be drastically different from the current Cavaliers LeBron player model. Headband, different hairstyle, different facial hair and different tattoos. The 2013 model is not that dissimilar to the current Cavaliers LeBron player model. Besides wearing a headband, different hairstyle and only 1 tattoo that's on the current Cavaliers LeBron player model would need to be removed the Akron Est 1984 and more of a stubble beard than the fuller one on his current Cavaliers model.
 
# 259 GonnaDuncanYou @ 09/22/15 09:02 PM
The fact that there are no Spurs teams added is atrocious. I mean they have won 5 championships between the '98 team that is in the game and now. A championship team seriously needed to be added considering some of the teams that were added. A Prime Tim Duncan team is sorely missed. 2k messed up on this one. Any of the championship teams would have been awesome. Well the '99 would be my least wanted since the '98 team is already in the game but '05/'03/'07 are more historic and better than most of the teams added. Especially the '07 Cavs. I mean we brutally swept them.
 
# 260 GonnaDuncanYou @ 09/22/15 09:41 PM
And just to clarify, I do like most of the teams added, I just think it is crazy that they didn't add a Spurs team before considering borderline "historic" teams
like the Cavs or Wolves. And I think the '13 Heat is too soon. By that logic, the '14 Spurs should be included since they basically murdered that team the following year.
 


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