04:25 PM - October 15, 2013 by Steve_OS
What are your thoughts on the new NBA Live 14 screenshot, featuring Washington Wizards guard, John Wall?
NBA Live 14 News Post
04:25 PM - October 15, 2013 by Steve_OSWhat are your thoughts on the new NBA Live 14 screenshot, featuring Washington Wizards guard, John Wall?
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My reason for bringing it up in the first place is because why am I seeing residue of it on a so called rebuilt nex gen game, and certain things are showing up on something as simple as a photo in the midst of them trying to hide things from the general public.
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# 124
King_B_Mack @ 10/16/13 03:35 PM
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I said my post was directed at a few different posts, not just yours. The point is you guys are putting words in people's mouths whenever anything that isn't glowing with positives about Live is mentioned. These are legit concerns that people are raising and people are talking about people hating on a video game. If we were the EA hating, 2K fanboys that these posts imply why the hell would we be in here hating on everything EA does? We know without a single shred of doubt we'll have a game to play come November 15th and beyond that at least comes close to resembling the game of basketball.
But again, I'm greedy, I want as many good basketball titles on the market as possible.
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I'm also ripping them on messed up shooter ratings (based on raw FG% rather than situation and type of shot taken), and screwed up paint attacking AI with terrible interior defense on settings out of the box.
The ridicule that Live gets is because their track record, their marketing, their secrecy, the scant information, and the fact that their few sizzle trailers are either CG or seem to be hiding everything important in a basketball game outside of dribbling IS somewhat ridiculous.
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And I for one went pretty hard at the few guys who had the same unjustified optimism regarding certain modes in 2K14 and ignored the mounting and worrying evidence before release.
So it's not so much that we talk to people like they're idiots and that they shouldn't have an opinion. It's that we're trying to point out certain opinions are bad ones and might make them look like idiots. :P
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It's obvious EA has some sort of schedule they want to release information on and it has nothing to do with how many people cry and whine for information. Be patient, they've said before they want the game to do the talking. Now when you finally see the game, get your hands on, and react to it then we can start to banter about it, but as of right now people are bringing up issues that they aren't even sure are relevant to the game.
Just because everyone feels entitled to information from them because they haven't released in a few years doesn't make it necessarily true. What you're entitled to is a good game, and if it takes some patience then wait.
Man stop. These people are the consumer. You dobt satisfy them then your product dies as simple as that. There is no entitlement..without these fans this series is doomed to fail...
EA knows alot about that too dont they? So yes if they repeat the same past mistakes they may as well hang up nba basketball for good. We've already had about 5 different basketball games die and this series is no exception. Ignore your fans and you end up stuck with another title not enough people care for to sustain a reason for you to justify a large budget. Don't be fooled
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EA knows alot about that too dont they? So yes if they repeat the same past mistakes they may as well hang up nba basketball for good. We've already had about 5 different basketball games die and this series is no exception. Ignore your fans and you end up stuck with another title not enough people care for to sustain a reason for you to justify a large budget. Don't be fooled
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People will buy it because it's not 2K. Some guys just wanna stick it to 2K, some guys just want a different game, no matter how bad it is. Just because it's different, they'll say it's better.
In all honesty, I think EA would have sold Elite 11, and it would have did a decent amount of sales if it weren't for Hard8times getting everyone on the Elite hating bandwagon.
It's a sad fact that EA can make this game, release it with all the same legacy issues and people will still buy it and defend it to the death.
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In addition, everything they've shown (and not shown) hints that old problems still exist. If you pay any attention to the gameplay trailers, you'll see that the players in the background still animate in a jerky fashion when they change facing.
Bygones won't be bygones until they actually release a non-crappy product.
Anyway, you can't cite EA's legacy and treat Live as an actual brand that means anything while ignoring its past. You can't have it both ways.
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It's obvious they're still working on the game, Scott even said it on the podcast (I think a lot of people need to listen to it). They don't want to release anymore work in progress videos. To be honest, I can sense the bitterness in your post "EA knows alot about that too dont they?"... "Don't be fooled". If you have a grudge against EA fine, but don't take it out on a game you know nothing about.
EA isn't forcing anyone to buy their game, you don't have to warn us of EA's evil ways we've seen the articles and witnessed football games be monopolized. Still, we can all make the knowledgeable decision based on facts. If you fall for the trolls that say "Pre-ordering immediately!" or "Way better than 2k, not even close!" then that's on you, but the ball don't lie. Soon enough EA will have to put up or shut up, but that doesn't mean we have to degrade every piece of info we see.
EA is capable of making good games, and if you look toward the future, this has the potential to be one of them.
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# 134
King_B_Mack @ 10/16/13 05:02 PM
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Telling people to wait until you play the game for yourself and all this other talk is just noise that doesn't help anything. By the time you try it for yourself the game is made and there's nothing to be done, they have your $60 already and have already started working on the next year's version of the game implimenting the same **** you just found out you don't like because you sat around waiting to see if it felt different from how it looked. I don't even know why I'm explaining this because we've talked about this before. People have done the don't question the bad that you're looking at approach for over half a decade with Live/EA Sports and it didn't help the series at all. But then we're not supposed to talk about the past cause it doesn't matter for some reason.
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Never in all my years of gaming have I seen Live come out and say try it for yourself, usually they NEED the marketing to sell games, the fact that they're holding off on marketing to actually work on the game tells me that the game can speak for itself. (Good Or Bad, who knows yet?)
I don't know about you but I do my research before I buy things, and Live will be no different. With the internet it doesn't cost me anything but a little time to research and see if the game is right for me. I don't care if last years game was the worst game ever made, what'd you do this year is on my mind, because I like the sport, and don't hold grudges.
If you look at the 51 second gameplay trailer for NBA Live 14, when Kyrie takes the ball into the lane, Kyrie is taking a step with his right foot. When the next angle pops up he is still taking his step with his right foot, but in that frame the replay is about a second behind what it is supposed to be. This gives the illusion of him travelling, but in reality he did not travel, the video just makes it seem like he did, but he is just continuing his step.
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If you stop catching feelings and stuff and get your emotion out of the posts from defending this game so much it might be easier on the blood pressure.
At this point, nobody cares what SOG says because frankly its put up or shut up time for EA and this series. They've said too much already and didn't deliver and people arent hanging on their every word as you may have noticed. Its something that didnt work out too well in the past, buzzwords, new tech and the game still either came out like crap or got cancelled.
Now if they arent advertising to the people here, then who are they advertising to? Casuals who don't play bball? Most of those people dont give a rats tail about this game thats for sure so who is it?
If all you want to do is hope this series escapes harsh criticism, it's not going to happen. It happens to every other game, and the point is, this is the only one that has had multiple years to get it together, so the call for patience is gone.
People dont even trust them and if the site asks someone what they think about a screen, and someone notices that the entire arena is totally seperated from the game, someone will say that. Its one thing to tell someone they can't say that because its hating, and another to say what you see and move on.
Im about done because no matter how much is typed, nobody is trying to see anything different and EA is still sitting back ducking releasing footage they promised and tap danced back on so hard Gregory Hines would be proud.
Why is it every time I read a post from 23 I just picture some guy screaming at the top of his lungs thinking that will help get the point across. It must just be the tone of it.... Just my observation, and my own perception of it.... Nothing to read into about it I just wanted to express my thoughts on it.
That is what passion is I guess.
That is what passion is I guess.
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