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Greg Miller of IGN sat down with Cam Weber on the IGN set at E3 to talk Madden NFL 25 and what the Ignite Engine means to next-gen Madden.

"(The Ignite Engine) is best in class tech from all of our franchises," Weber said.

The new locomotion system within the new generation of Madden was developed by both the Madden and FIFA teams alongside each other. Weber was particularly high on the new system, "The thing that makes Madden feel special on Gen-4 is our new true step locomotion sytem," Weber said. "You have much more control over every move."

Weber said that Player Sense makes 50x more calculations a second than Madden on current gen.

"It's like taking the blindfold off. They (digital players) can see the entire field, all the players and objects around them and they can react on the fly to what everyone else is doing," Weber said.

Weber said the additional power allows for the extra calculations from players and the new physics engine, which will add more depth than ever to Madden NFL Football.

When asked about what this could mean on a practical level, Weber elaborated on the line play, "The line of scrimmage has so much going on this year, whether it's run blocking or pass blocking it's completely overhauled."

Weber went on to talk about pocket awareness and pre-snap targeting and how offensive linemen will dynamically change assignments starting from the center outwards, just like in real football. This dynamic shifting of assignments continues as the snap occurs as well, Weber said.

And the big one, when asked about the generational leap and the possibly of features lost, Weber responded, "It will be a fully featured Madden right out of the gate. We're not losing any depth."

Weber said Connected Franchise was built with this generation in mind, so there won't be any depth lost as you upgrade from the current generation to Madden on the Xbox One and PlayStation 4.

While we've long suspected this was the case, it's nice to officially hear that Madden will be losing no depth as it makes the generational leap.

How does this affect your perception of the upcoming next-gen Madden?

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# 101 infemous @ 06/13/13 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tfctillidie
Not even going to bother. Hate all you want, I'll have fun and you guys can be miserable all you wish.
 
# 102 spidaman2323 @ 06/13/13 03:42 PM
Madden hasn't been the same Since Madden voice has been gone!! period...
 
# 103 tfctillidie @ 06/13/13 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBuddyHobbs
Trust me every single person on here would LOVE to see Madden succeed because that would mean it's a great game again. Madden hasn't been great since Madden 2005. Madden 12 and Madden 13 took a step in the right direction, but based on what we have seen they just aren't there yet. Now that's not to say they can never get there because they really could. As of now though at best they have put out a solid game these past 2 years, but not a great one. The fear a lot of people have is that we will again suffer another 8+ years of at best mediocre football gaming. I think we have waited long enough for something to be great. I don't think Madden 25 on the next gen will be the next great Madden, however next year's Madden on the next gen consoles I believe has a good chance at becoming great again. I believe the foundation is almost laid down and we can finally start building the house. Once that happens we can finally live happy and comfortably.
You assume that "Every single person on this site" sees Madden the same way you do. This is not correct. In between the long winded yelling about previous Maddens and legacy issues, is someone saying they enjoy the game or are excited for the future and get lambasted for it.

I don't think that's fair and the generalizations around here can be crazy.


I don't know why the Gen 2 to Gen 3 leap is constantly referenced while the Gen 1 to Gen 2 leap is ignored. The 2-->3 leap had a short developed game that came without features. We already know Gen 4 has been in development for 1-2 years and will have current gen features. We know the Madden 06 scenario is not going to happen.
 
# 104 roadman @ 06/13/13 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBuddyHobbs
I don't know what to tell you man. We are basically just trying to help you understand how other people feel and what other people are seeing and have seen before. If you don't understand it, then you don't understand it. There's no reason to try to argue over it. I'm glad you enjoy Madden I really am. There are those of us that are waiting for a little bit better of a product then we are getting right now. It's not to say Madden is horrible it's just not where we want it and expect it to be by now. We understand the future looks bright, but we are in the present. We can see the light at the end of the tunnel, but we still have a ways to go until we reach the end. That's the best way I can explain it.
Good post, and I think it's a good idea to try to keep an open mind either way. I wasn't seeing that in others posts.

There is definately historical baggage with Madden, but there are some positives going forward.
 
# 105 duckdown7 @ 06/13/13 08:04 PM
This is Next Gen Gameplay? The way the Trailer looked I have to be honest...I expected A LOT MORE! Only thing that looks Next Gen is the Turf
 
# 106 2krunk4u @ 06/14/13 12:25 AM
Maybe I need to elaborate on my same ish different toilet comment? I thought the statement spoke for itself. But let me breakdown what exactly it is I meant.

Same ish = same animations, same weightless players able to cut and glide on a dime, same tackles, same robo-cop running styles, same graphics, same jargon ea representatives have been selling us for the past 12 years. Everything is allegedly "new and improved", but really I'm flabbergasted that they're passing this off as next-gen gaming. I honestly do not see a difference between the xbox one and xbox 360 videos.

It was also bare bones, so maybe the added presentation and crowd atmosphere will make a difference. I don't know. Guess I was expecting more wow. I remember the wow I got making the leap from playstation to playstation 2. Is there a reason I can't get that wow factor from next-gen systems that are supposed to be leaps and bounds above their predecessors?
 
# 107 HILLTOPPER3339 @ 06/14/13 01:48 AM
There's an enormous difference between implementing foot-planting animations and implementing a system that accounts for physics and weight.

Adrian Peterson is planting his feet but not at a rate which real physics would dictate; the players appear light as feathers, and what was once swiveling is now supplanted by rapid fire "foot plants" and weightless changes of direction. I realize it's pre-alpha but I seriously doubt the weight and physics I'm talking about wouldn't be present already.
 
# 108 LegendKilla13 @ 06/14/13 04:26 AM
Any chance of importing NCAA draft classes from ps3 to Madden on Ps4?? Probably a stupid question in fact im sure it is lol. Bummer!!
 
# 109 Ueauvan @ 06/14/13 08:29 AM
technically its not marketing. iirc the definition of marketing usually revolves around satisfying a customer demand. in reality EA is more sales orientated, ie we have something to sell here you can buy it especially if you use confusing advertising.
 
# 110 tmac747 @ 06/14/13 08:35 AM
If you have viewed any M25 current-gen consoles, take notice that the 'hunch back' running is not present in it.
 
# 111 Skyboxer @ 06/14/13 08:41 AM
I'll care more about Madden when I can play D from the D side of the ball.
Next gen and still not an option.
I've maintained a pretty even temper with EA lately and I know while the camera isn't for everyone is should be an option.

The excuse they didn't know anyone wanted it is another BS reply. We've only asked for at least 3 years, forwarded threads etc..

You didn't know my butt.

/Rant
 
# 112 tfctillidie @ 06/14/13 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TheBuddyHobbs
I don't know what to tell you man. We are basically just trying to help you understand how other people feel and what other people are seeing and have seen before. If you don't understand it, then you don't understand it. There's no reason to try to argue over it. I'm glad you enjoy Madden I really am. There are those of us that are waiting for a little bit better of a product than we are getting right now. It's not to say Madden is horrible it's just not where we want it and expect it to be by now. We understand the future looks bright, but we are in the present. We can see the light at the end of the tunnel, but we still have a ways to go until we reach the end. That's the best way I can explain it.
Are you kidding? Do you think people don't know what you're talking about?

This same skeptical fear is in every single thread on this forum. You guys feel the need to tell anyone who doesn't see it your way, over and over and over.

Trust me, this forum knows how you folks feel.
 
# 113 kehlis @ 06/14/13 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by tfctillidie
Are you kidding? Do you think people don't know what you're talking about?

This same skeptical fear is in every single thread on this forum. You guys feel the need to tell anyone who doesn't see it your way, over and over and over.

Trust me, this forum knows how you folks feel.
People are allowed to not like the game as much as you are allowed to like the game and post about how much you like the game in any thread you wish.

Enough of this now, drop it.
 
# 114 infemous @ 06/14/13 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by HILLTOPPER3339
There's an enormous difference between implementing foot-planting animations and implementing a system that accounts for physics and weight.

Adrian Peterson is planting his feet but not at a rate which real physics would dictate; the players appear light as feathers, and what was once swiveling is now supplanted by rapid fire "foot plants" and weightless changes of direction. I realize it's pre-alpha but I seriously doubt the weight and physics I'm talking about wouldn't be present already.
THIS X10000000000!!!!!!!

MY GOD how hard is it to understand this EA???

WE ARE BEGGING YOU!
 
# 115 elgreazy1 @ 06/14/13 03:48 PM
It still looks like the same game from last gen. I simply just don't understand, EA. Eh well, looks like I can give up on next-gen football altogether at this point and I didn't even have to buy a new console to come to that harsh reality. $500+ saved.
 
# 116 stp2081 @ 06/14/13 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by bucky60
It may look similar to this gen, but I may still wait for next gen depending on how the CPU AI looks. It's the 50+calcs/second that intrigues me. Are players going to play a lot smarter? It will also depend on the off field CPU AI. If these things are much improved, I may get next gen madden.
Based on past history, do you expect the developers to re-write the CPU AI code to maximize (or really, even take advantage of) the use of the 50+calcs/second without making it a strong marketing point (because it likely requires much developer effort)? Perhaps my expectations are too low, but I don't expect much of a difference other than slight graphics improvement, and certainly not AI improvement (although I bet there will be a "placebo effect" amongst some playing on a new system).

Basically, the system's power can't re-write the game's code, and I would be shocked if EA took the time to beef up the AI code to be at a level beyond what current-gen does, and then not market/publicize the heck out of that amazing feat.
 
# 117 RogueHominid @ 06/14/13 06:37 PM
I made it through the first 10 pages of this thread before thinking that I must be missing something because the player models, true step movement, and blocking schemes all looked good to me.

The biggest sell for me was the claim that players will make 50 more contextual adjustments per second than they did before. That's amazing from an AI perspective.

I saw double team blocking, good edge rushes, intelligent OL play, a nice range of tackle animations, and impressive detail.

I also thought Cam Weber's talk matched the footage. He seemed very sensible. The video breakdown early in the thread was also very sensible. If CCM has what last year's had plus the variable performance where drafted players don't perform the same way in each draft class (some stink in your version while the same guys are stars in mine), then I'm sold.

But again, I must be missing something. I like it.
 
# 118 Skyboxer @ 06/14/13 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bucky60
I was listening to the E3 interview with Cam Weber and he clearly mentioned how the players would be aware of the entire field and act individually. It was a major emphasis of his interview. Do I expect it to be much better? With what Cam Weber said, I wouldn't be surprised either way. I wouldn't bet my Brothers house on it (I never bet my own), but I may still wait and see if their is a major difference with on field CPU AI.

Now the off field CPU AI is a different story. There have been no time constraints on this gen, just power and memory constraints. The off field CPU AI has all the time in the world to crunch that stuff (it's not real time code). But I'll still check come November and see if it's significantly improved.

What other choice do I have.
I just hope he means players are aware of the total field "That is in their line of sight".
 
# 119 gr18 @ 06/14/13 06:48 PM
I think there's alot of bias in this forum regarding next gen.

You have the people that already pre-ordered and are all in for it.The rose colored glasses are on and you couldn't tell them it's going to be anything but great and 100X better than current gen.

Then you have the people that are going out of their way to call it crap.Part of this may be that they aren't enamored by the idea of buying a new system right now.
 
# 120 Skyboxer @ 06/14/13 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by gr18
I think there's alot of bias in this forum regarding next gen.

You have the people that already pre-ordered and are all in for it.The rose colored glasses are on and you couldn't tell them it's going to be anything but great and 100X better than current gen.

Then you have the people that are going out of their way to call it crap.Part of this may be that they aren't enamored by the idea of buying a new system right now.
There's a lot of bias period. That's why I don't pay attention to anyone who seems they need to let me know how a game is good or bad.
Some seriously seem to take it personally if you like or dislike something the like or dislike. I'll never understand that.

My $ so I'll decide what I think looks good or bad.
 


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