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2K Sports has just released the written breakdown of all 31 NBA 2K13 Signature Skills.

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Q: Why create these Signature Skills for 2K13 when you already have several attributes in 2K12?

A: We felt that our existing attribute and tendency system quite didn’t lend itself well enough to various situational moments that happen in basketball, nor did it help identify very specialized players. Outlet passes, winning charge calls, staying hot through in-game breaks, etc, are just a few areas where our attributes system failed to give you what you need. We’re now able to dig deeper into these situations to allow players stand out where they’re most known. Let’s take shot blocking for example. LeBron James is well-known as the best chase down blocker in the league. In 2K12, when you were in a chase down situation, LeBron was unable to block the shot from behind as much as we’d like him to because he had only a 60-ish Block attribute. With the inclusion of the new Sig Skill, Chase Down Artist, we’re now able to give him the types of skills he needs to embarrass the unsuspecting shooter, without having to artificially raise his Block attribute (which would then allow him to block shots in areas he’s not known for). There are reasons like this for every skill created, which is why we’re bringing this feature to you for NBA 2K13.

Here is a list of all 31 signature skills.
  • Posterizer
  • Highlight Film
  • Finisher
  • Acrobat
  • Spot Up Shooter
  • Shot Creator
  • Deadeye
  • Corner Specialist
  • Post Proficiency
  • Ankle Breaker
  • Post Playmaker
  • Dimer
  • Break Starter
  • Alley-Ooper
  • Brick Wall
  • Lockdown Defender
  • Charge Card
  • Interceptor
  • Pick Pocket
  • Active Hands
  • Eraser
  • Chase Down Artist
  • Bruiser
  • Hustle Points
  • Scrapper
  • Anti-Freeze
  • Microwave
  • Heat Retention
  • Closer
  • Floor General
  • Defensive Anchor
Read all of the NBA 2K13 Signature Skills details, on the official Tumblr page.

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# 121 DatGD12guage @ 09/02/12 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Colts18
I mean when 2K doesn't spend time editing tendencies the way that they should be of course the average user thinks they don't work or that they don't do enough. Outside of the animation editions, Signature Skills could have been achieved without a fancy new title/gimmick.

All of them are not worthless, I am not saying that but a lot of them are.
I think its a good strategy b/c most ppl dont take the time to learn what players tendencies and ratings are and dont play the game according to the players strategy and what they do best. Let alone the new comers who know nothing about basketball.
 
# 122 Da_Czar @ 09/02/12 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Goffs
Wait...does the anchor skill set stack? let's say you have two defensive anchors on the court will it stack up to twelve?
NO It doesn't
 
# 123 Colts18 @ 09/02/12 07:10 PM
No it just gives 2K an excuse to not worry about editing tendencies. If you all expect roster edit updates to be more thorough then you are sadly mistaken.

Updates will include:

1 Game Winner from Hedo: Update: Hedo = Closer.
Brandon Jennings dunks on someone for the first time in his career: Update: Jennings = Posterizer.

2K will go overboard as usual.
 
# 124 RyanFitzmagic @ 09/02/12 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Thunder Storm
Knicks were top 5 in defense when Mike D'Antoni was still coaching them...
Mike Woodson was the assistant coach until D'Antoni stepped down.
 
# 125 Boilerbuzz @ 09/02/12 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic
So again, why weren't his Minnesota teams great defensively?
It doesn't make your team "great". Just better than it would be without them. Why is that so hard to understand?

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How does this make sense? What's this trying to replicate, a player getting dejected by having his shot blocked? That doesn't happen-- these are the best basketball players in the known universe. They don't get rattled like that.
Oh come on. A great shot blocker DOES get in a player's head. They tend to change shots or pull up in situations they would normally take it to the basket. It was the value of Omer Asik.
 
# 126 da ThRONe @ 09/02/12 07:12 PM
I'm disappointed with the max of 5 per players. It's not sim that LeBron can't be as special as he really is because of a silly max on skill.
 
# 127 RyanFitzmagic @ 09/02/12 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz
It doesn't make your team "great". Just better than it would be without them. Why is that so hard to understand?
Once again, there's no proof that any single player alone makes his teammates better defensively. None.

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Originally Posted by Boilerbuzz
Oh come on. A great shot blocker DOES get in a player's head. They tend to change shots or pull up in situations they would normally take it to the basket. It was the value of Omer Asik.
And what does changing your shot selection have to do with shooting attributes, which is what the Eraser affects?
 
# 128 Thunder Storm @ 09/02/12 07:14 PM
I don't understand the people against sig skills (although they are the minority).

Of course 2K could have gotten players to reanact these 'skills' using just tendencies and ratings, but like somebody else alluded to, the average/casual gamer doesn't know player tendencies and strengths. So what's wrong with 2K guiding them in the right direction ? now casuals will see that role players like Samuel Dalembert or Tayshaun Prince are not just scrubs and that they have purposes in the flow of a game.

A lot of the skills encourages users to play the game the right way, people will get rewarded for utilizing Noah or Perkins in an offense.
 
# 129 Boilerbuzz @ 09/02/12 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Colts18
I don't think you dudes understand how high of a percentage 30% is. So 30% (3/10) times an elite ball handler does an iso move, he gets someone out of pocket? Nah man, that is a high figure.

And again, nobody said anything about people falling left to right. Not sure why you keep mentioning that as if someone is saying that is what is going to happen. I am still scared that it will happen too often. Not alot, but more than a realistic amount.
I think you're WAY off here. It's an additional 30% to the chance of ankle breaker. That means, you take the chance of a NORMAL ankle breaker and multiple THAT by 1.3. So it the normal is, say, 5%, then this will make it 6.5%. Still worried? Let's not forget that you have to be fooled on the sticks as well. If you don't do any quite and sudden changes in direction, you won't get an ankle broken.
 
# 130 DatGD12guage @ 09/02/12 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic
Give me a break. Mike Woodson had just as much to do with that as Chandler.
Wh, What are you talking about thats what I was saying, who else do you think incorporates different defensive schemes. Chandler is a major plus in the mike woodon system because they would be far less effective on defense with just Iman shumpert and mike woodson without chandler. It does increase team defense trust me brotha it does.
 
# 131 djwax90 @ 09/02/12 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic
While a Defensive Anchor’s team is on defense, all teammates on the floor are given up to a six point attribute boost to their defensive abilities.

That goes completely against the concept of a defensive anchor. He doesn't make his teammates BETTER. He covers up their mistakes.

Oh, Jesus.
In your words, "Oh, Jesus." This may be the most ignorant comment in the thread. Honestly, I don't know why most people are trying to argue against it by referencing Chandler coming to the Knicks (who are still not that great defensively), instead of when Chandler came to the Mavs.

Before Chandler came along, the Mavs had atrocious defense and it was arguably the biggest thing holding the team back for a number of years. Chandler came in and changed the Mavs from a "soft" team to team with championship-caliber defense. Just about every one of the Mavs players lauded him in that regard, all testifying that he changed the mentality of the entire team. If anything, I'd argue that Anchor could be even stronger as Tyson's influence on the team obviously extended beyond his time on the court.

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Originally Posted by The15thunter
look at the guys who have it. when they're hot, it does take a lot for them to lose it. that's why, sometimes, they take heat check shots just to see how far their luck can stretch.
My point is this: It takes half as many consecutively made shots for a player to heat up. Kobe making his first two or three shots in a game is HIGHLY common/possible. What happens then? 4 minutes into the first quarter of a 48 minute game, Kobe is on fire, and could potentially stay on fire for the entire game (and it seems as though with this perk it's not very difficult for that to happen).

Now tell me, how often to you see a player shooting the lights out for 40+ minutes in a game? Last I checked, I've never seen it happen, and even the greatest shooting performances have only occurred once every few years on average. This perk seems like it can make players like Kobe play on fire like the way I described every 3rd or 4th game. If this perk becomes what I think it's capable of being, god help us all against people cheesing with the Lakers in quick matches.
 
# 132 Thunder Storm @ 09/02/12 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic
Mike Woodson was the assistant coach until D'Antoni stepped down.
Woodson has always had good defenders on his ball clubs. Beneficiary of circumstance. He's not like a Thibodeau who can have great defensive teams even when his best defensive players are injured.
 
# 133 djwax90 @ 09/02/12 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Colts18
No it just gives 2K an excuse to not worry about editing tendencies. If you all expect roster edit updates to be more thorough then you are sadly mistaken.

Updates will include:

1 Game Winner from Hedo: Update: Hedo = Closer.
Brandon Jennings dunks on someone for the first time in his career: Update: Jennings = Posterizer.

2K will go overboard as usual.
Okay, now you're just being silly. Knock it off.
 
# 134 lv2bll @ 09/02/12 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic
Give me a break. Mike Woodson had just as much to do with that as Chandler.
Well in that case look what happened to Dallas(without Chandler). Or Orlando last year with Dwight. Cant tell anyone that Orlando had elite defenders.
 
# 135 Boilerbuzz @ 09/02/12 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Colts18
I mean when 2K doesn't spend time editing tendencies the way that they should be of course the average user thinks they don't work or that they don't do enough. Outside of the animation editions, Signature Skills could have been achieved without a fancy new title/gimmick.

All of them are not worthless, I am not saying that but a lot of them are.
Do you really think that they didn't take care to not make a redundant skill? And, again, tendencies drive the behaviors - they are not ratings. They are the likelihood that you DO an action. Not the chance at succeeding in that action. Just because I guy does something a lot doesn't make him good at it. You get what I'm saying?
 
# 136 Boilerbuzz @ 09/02/12 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Thunder Storm
Knicks were top 5 in defense when Mike D'Antoni was still coaching them...
Top 5 in what?
 
# 137 Scramz718 @ 09/02/12 07:23 PM
Microwave and Heat Retention are going to work well together. Shot Creator and Deadeye will also complement one another well. A player with all four is going to be an assassin. So far we know Kobe is going to have Heat Retention, Shot Creator and Deadeye for sure. I can see Microwave being one of his last two sig skills. My myplayer is going to have all four plus Finish. Can't wait for 2K13
 
# 138 RyanFitzmagic @ 09/02/12 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DatGD12guage
Wh, What are you talking about thats what I was saying, who else do you think incorporates different defensive schemes. Chandler is a major plus in the mike woodon system because they would be far less effective on defense with just Iman shumpert and mike woodson without chandler. It does increase team defense trust me brotha it does.
What the hell are you trying to say? 2K thinks that players alone can make defenders around them better. I've proven that this isn't true.

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Originally Posted by Thunder Storm
Woodson has always had good defenders on his ball clubs. Beneficiary of circumstance. He's not like a Thibodeau who can have great defensive teams even when his best defensive players are injured.
Woodson came to the Knicks and they got better defensively, and when he became head coach, they improved even MORE. Yeah, I'm sure that's a coincidence.

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Originally Posted by djwax90
In your words, "Oh, Jesus." This may be the most ignorant comment in the thread. Honestly, I don't know why most people are trying to argue against it by referencing Chandler coming to the Knicks (who are still not that great defensively), instead of when Chandler came to the Mavs.

Before Chandler came along, the Mavs had atrocious defense and it was arguably the biggest thing holding the team back for a number of years. Chandler came in and changed the Mavs from a "soft" team to team with championship-caliber defense. Just about every one of the Mavs players lauded him in that regard, all testifying that he changed the mentality of the entire team. If anything, I'd argue that Anchor could be even stronger as Tyson's influence on the team obviously extended beyond his time on the court.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DAL/2010.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DAL/2011.html

Look at Defensive Efficiency. The Mavs did not get that much better with Chandler. They have good defensive coaching. They were better with MF-ing Erick Dampier than they were with Chandler.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DAL/2007.html

Who's ignorant now?

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Originally Posted by lv2bll
Well in that case look what happened to Dallas(without Chandler). Or Orlando last year with Dwight. Cant tell anyone that Orlando had elite defenders.
What happened to Dallas? They were 8th in Defensive Efficiency with Chandler in 2011, and 8th without him in 2012.

Keep telling me I don't know what I'm talking about. It's amusing.
 
# 139 Colts18 @ 09/02/12 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by djwax90
Okay, now you're just being silly. Knock it off.
Don't look at the specific examples I am giving. The point I am making is what should be focused on. As with ratings, 2K will probably assign/take away sig skills like hotcakes. They just the gun with their roster updates, why does anyone expect this to be any different?
 
# 140 Boilerbuzz @ 09/02/12 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by RyanFitzmagic
Once again, there's no proof that any single player alone makes his teammates better defensively. None.
None except actual PLAYERS calling out teammates that are their defensive MVPs or "anchors". But what do players know, right? Ask ANY Houston Rocket what Hakeem did for them defensively.

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And what does changing your shot selection have to do with shooting attributes, which is what the Eraser affects?
It's called shooting in RHYTHM! Do you just want to bitch about this because it sounds like you're not even TRYING to see where they were going with this. If you think it's contrived, that's fine. I can see that. But it plays on ideologies that many people believe in the game of basketball.
 


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