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Why EA Needs to Patch the New Playoff into NCAA Football 13

12:45 PM - July 2, 2012 by RaychelSnr

Why does EA need to patch in the new playoff system?

Well, it’s the biggest change in college football since the implementation of the BCS. And the shadow of the playoff will be hanging over the college football season. If it’s not in the game, then EA is failing to deliver the most accurate product possible.

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# 61 malky @ 07/02/12 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TryHard_Nation


	The details are auctually set except for the 5th and 6th Bowls. The Selection commitee (could be replicated by polls for NCAA) ranks the teams 1-12. Top 4 go to playoff with 1v4 and 2v3 at rotating sites of the 6 Bowl games (4 current BCS, 5th is likely Jerry Jones world, and 6th is up for bidding). Winners meet eachother at highest bidding city/arena. Then the other 4 bowl games take 5-12. Could be implemented as soon as we find out who bowls #5 and #6 go to. I'd say doable but then again....it is EA

Exactly it's not rocket science to put a playoff in the game; in fact it should be a MUST for next year's game... you can get all the specifics of the playoff details in 2015 or whatever.... most have wanted THE OPTION of a playoff for a long time and the whole thing about NCAA forcing them not to put it in that game has only been justified as a rumor and even if it was true.... that ship sailed last week FOREVER.

# 62 jyoung @ 07/02/12 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGFOOT999


	This. I did not remember Bill walsh having it, but I certainly do not doubt you.... In 1995 I was 6. lol

The original Bill Walsh College Football didn't even have a regular season mode. It was just exhibition games or you could set up a tournament.

It wasn't until Bill Walsh '95 that they introduced season mode and the option to choose bowls or playoffs at the end of the season.

They basically kept that option available in the NCAA series' season mode from Bill Walsh '95 until NCAA 2001.

Then they left playoffs out of season mode once the PS2 era began (NCAA Football 2002), and it's never returned to the series since.

# 63 BA2929 @ 07/02/12 11:20 PM

'But patching the playoff system into the game isn’t just about accuracy'

How is it accurate if it's not being used in the real life NCAA until 2014? If they're going to do this, they might as well put in all the new FBS schools 2-3 years before they actually play a down.

# 64 Playmakers @ 07/02/12 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jyoung


	You could choose between playoffs or bowls to end your season in the Genesis games, too. So the feature was actually around for two consecutive gaming generations. For whatever reason, they took away the feature when NCAA Football made the jump from PS1 to PS2.

Thank you.....

I'm not sure why these guys are defending EA for not having it already.....

This could have been a feature EA used on their own just like they did back in the days you mentioned.

What does giving the USER the option to choose between Bowl games and playoffs in their Dynasty Mode have to do with real life NCAA Football rules not being in place yet?

Like i said before earlier in the thread I don't expect EA to include it this year only because they will use it as a MARKETING HYPE for NCAA 14 or 15.

That's just the way they operate now days...

# 65 Hooe @ 07/02/12 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Playmakers


	It was once included on the old PS2 system even without a college football playoff system in place.

I owned every PS2 NCAA Football game (2002 with Chris Weinke on the cover was the first, I had a PS2 at launch, there was no EA college football game for the 2001 iteration on the console) and I don't remember a single one of them having a playoff.

There's no reason for EA to put a playoff in this year's game, it won't exist in real life for two years, and the logistics as to how bowls will cooperate with the playoff have yet to be determined.

# 66 malky @ 07/02/12 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Playmakers


	Thank you..... I'm not sure why these guys are defending EA for not having it already..... This could have been a feature EA used on their own just like they did back in the days you mentioned. What does giving the USER the option to choose between Bowl games and playoffs in their Dynasty Mode have to do with real life NCAA Football rules not being in place yet? Like i said before earlier in the thread I don't expect EA to include it this year only because they will use it as a MARKETING HYPE for NCAA 14 or 15. That's just the way they operate now days...

Yep not rocket science doesnt have to be accurate this time around just include a playoff option using the polls end of story and put them in random stadiums but I guess that requires too much thinking

# 67 Playmakers @ 07/02/12 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CM Hooe


	I owned every PS2 NCAA Football game (2002 with Chris Weinke on the cover was the first, I had a PS2 at launch, there was no EA college football game for the 2001 iteration on the console) and I don't remember a single one of them having a playoff. There's no reason for EA to put a playoff in this year's game, it won't exist in real life for two years, and the logistics as to how bowls will cooperate with the playoff have yet to be determined.

and again what does REAL LIFE have to do with a video game and giving you the OPTION to choose between Bowls games or Playoffs in your Dynasty mode?

I'm confused as to why some of you keep saying this as a reason why it's not in the game already.

Hell i've always felt it should've been part of the game in play now mode for years already.

The fact remains there was no playoff system intact when it used to be inlcuded in the game so what makes it any different right now?

And for the record i don't think they will include it even if they could because it'll be apart of their great HYPE MARKETING PLOY FOR 14/15 version of the game.

# 68 BA2929 @ 07/03/12 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Playmakers


	And for the record i don't think they will include it even if they could because it'll be apart of their great HYPE MARKETING PLOY FOR 14/15 version of the game.

And why shouldn't they market that? That's what they SHOULD do if they're not bad business people. it's not smart business to rush out a patched HUGE feature in '13 that could possibly bring in tons more cash for your business in '14 if it's marketed correctly.

Also, why push out a half-done patched "Play Now" playoff system when they can work on it for a year and put it on the back of the box AND include it in Dynasty? To be perfectly honest, I don't see why some of you guys even want a playoff in the game if it wouldn't even be usable in Dynasty. Just draw a bracket on paper, put teams in it, and play it that way. It's nearly exactly the same. I used to do that in Tecmo Bowl back on the NES.

# 69 Hooe @ 07/03/12 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Playmakers


	and again what does REAL LIFE have to do with a video game and giving you the OPTION to choose between Bowls games or Playoffs in your Dynasty mode? I'm confused as to why some of you keep saying this as a reason why it's not in the game already. Hell i've always felt it should've been part of the game in play now mode for years already. The fact remains there was no playoff system intact when it used to be inlcuded in the game so what makes it any different right now? And for the record i don't think they will include it even if they could because it'll be apart of their great HYPE MARKETING PLOY FOR 14/15 version of the game.

Double-standard. People openly criticize and mock EA Sports games for not getting every last detail correct. It is absolutely unfair to demand realism to a T in one instance of the game, and them to create an option that is artificial to what currently exists in real life the next.

It's not a marketing ploy if EA doesn't have the playoff until NCAA Football 15. It will probably take the real-life powers that be that long to figure out how everything with regard to the playoff - and everything affected by it - is going to work.

I personally don't want the playoff in a video game until EA has enough information to attempt to do it correctly.

# 70 K0ZZ @ 07/03/12 12:37 AM

I'm critical of EA but to blame them or claim no patch is laziness is erroneous.

1) No finite factual information has been pulled on how teams were being selected and where they play, if there is any restrictions, etc.

2) MLB The Show wasn't able to patch in the one extra wild card, and that went into effect this season.

Despite what some people may believe there is a specific scheduling matrix and that alters dynasty to its very core, not only would they have to code out conflicts, they would have to make up a form of selection of teams, which most likely would just amount to BCS 1-4.

As far as I'm concerned, it would be nice but it by no means makes them lazy. Drawing the parallel to the Show to support that.

# 71 Playmakers @ 07/03/12 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BA2929


	And why shouldn't they market that? That's what they SHOULD do if they're not bad business people. it's not smart business to rush out a patched HUGE feature in '13 that could possibly bring in tons more cash for your business in '14 if it's marketed correctly. Also, why push out a half-done patched "Play Now" playoff system when they can work on it for a year and put it on the back of the box AND include it in Dynasty? To be perfectly honest, I don't see why some of you guys even want a playoff in the game if it wouldn't even be usable in Dynasty. Just draw a bracket on paper, put teams in it, and play it that way. It's nearly exactly the same. I used to do that in Tecmo Bowl back on the NES.

There are other sports games that allow you to create tournaments and playoffs outside of a franchise or dynasty mode.

Heck you can start with College Hoops 2K8 and create a tournament that only consist of All Time teams or Classic teams.

There are guys who create and download many teams from Team Builder who probbaly would love to have the option of playing a tournament/Playoff with classic teams like 95 Nebraksa vs 91 Washington for example....

Just because it doesn't appease to you doesn't mean it would be worhtless to others.....I for one would have no problems using the feature to setup Playoffs for Classics teams i create.

Here's some examples of things you can do with a playoff mode even if it's not installed in Dynasty mode....

http://www.dfnsports.com/bigten/2006...big-ten-teams/

ESPN’s All-Time Greatest College Football Playoff includes just 5 current Big Ten teams

ESPN recently launched their All-Time Greatest College Football Playoff where they have compiled what they feel are the 32 greatest teams in the history of college football. Of those 32 teams, only 5 of the greatest teams in history comes from the current Big Ten Conference.

Included on their list are the following Big Ten football teams:
» 1947 Michigan
» 2002 Ohio State
» 1968 Ohio State
» 1941 Minnesota
» 1986 Penn State

Another example of what a Tournament/Playoff mode would do for added replay value in the game.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...f&sportCat=ncf

I mean seriously for the guys who don't care about a playoff system that is your choice....but there are some guys who could also make great use of such a feature even if it's not included in a Dynasty mode for this year.

In fact I'd be willing to bet money if EA used a Playoff system this year you'd have more guys on these forums at OS who would download classic teams and use the Playoff Mode outside of Dynasty mode more than they would use the single player Heisman mode inside of Dynasty.

# 72 MrRudy @ 07/03/12 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by chicagopax


	I'm critical of EA but to blame them or claim no patch is laziness is erroneous. 1) No finite factual information has been pulled on how teams were being selected and where they play, if there is any restrictions, etc. 2) MLB The Show wasn't able to patch in the one extra wild card, and that went into effect this season. Despite what some people may believe there is a specific scheduling matrix and that alters dynasty to its very core, not only would they have to code out conflicts, they would have to make up a form of selection of teams, which most likely would just amount to BCS 1-4. As far as I'm concerned, it would be nice but it by no means makes them lazy. Drawing the parallel to the Show to support that.

I personally agree that the patch seems pretty darn unrealistic. However, with all of the talk surrounding the playoff recently, I really wish they'd have just thrown it in there so they could tweak it for the next couple years.

I can see it now, broken logic results in my final four being.
#1 Alabama (12-0) vs. #4 Kent State (11-1, with 7 wins over FCS Midwest)
#2 Boise State (12-0, still in MWC) vs. #3 Toledo (12-0, one win over Kent State, the rest were hogwash)

# 73 MrRudy @ 07/03/12 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by siouxredskins


	does anyone even understand what a patch is or even if its possible with this? Can they involve all the logic this would take ? I think not..I dont know either?

This is the meaning of life, or is it? I don't know, or do I?

# 74 SammyC14 @ 07/03/12 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by taman08


	playoff system will be a sales pitch for one of the later ncaa footballs...no reason for them to put it in now!! they need to add FCS and all the new FBS schools!!

I agree with this! It already seems to take EA's team 6 months to come up with a new marketing campaign for a game that is pretty much similar to the last.

Pus, if it's going to be in the game, it needs to actually be in the game (right EA?). I wouldn't want some rigged up playoff format that doesn't actually exist.

# 75 ActLikeYouCrow @ 07/03/12 01:32 PM

the committee will be hell for them to replicate because theres no specific formula to picking the 4 teams. especially that first year when they have to put it in the game before actually seeing it work. which might lead to them saying screw it and just put the top 4 teams from one poll or a polls average.

# 76 malky @ 07/03/12 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ActLikeYouCrow


	the committee will be hell for them to replicate because theres no specific formula to picking the 4 teams. especially that first year when they have to put it in the game before actually seeing it work. which might lead to them saying screw it and just put the top 4 teams from one poll or a polls average.

Yup college hoops 2k didn't have a committee they pretty much used the polls in the game. Basically everything has been done before on other games its not like ea is reinvented the wheel with a playoff. the excuses made for ea are stunning it's almost like they work for them

# 77 voodoo_magic @ 07/03/12 02:47 PM

Prediction: won't be in this year and they will "run out of time" to get in next year.

# 78 Raven Nation42 @ 07/03/12 04:09 PM

This article has really lit this board up. Great variety of opinions. While there are still matters to be cleared up for the 4team playoffs, It would be a good play by EA to consider this. With the ability to customize schedules, conference alignments and bowl qualification tie ins for dynasty users, why not have the option added if they can successfully patch it? It's your choice if you want to use it .However this is not without caution based on past years attempt to patch without compromising a the game itself. So here's hoping that they at least make a run at it if they think they can get it in and if not have it added for next year

# 79 BROman @ 07/03/12 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MMChrisS


	If it’s not in the game, then EA is failing to deliver the most accurate product possible.

accuracy has never been ea's strong suit.

# 80 TDenverFan @ 07/03/12 05:10 PM

I wish it would be passed in. But there's no reason for EA to patch it in, and I imagine it would be a very difficult patch to add in without creating bugs.

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