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# 21 Perfect Zero @ 01/18/12 08:39 PM
What do you people want with commentary? Even if they added a thousand new lines, they would still say the same things over and over again. There is a finite amount of things they can say in the game; this isn't real life.

Not buying a game because there was no new commentary? Give me a break...
 
# 22 BravesBoy @ 01/18/12 08:41 PM
the long "Striiiiike" from the ump..nice touch
 
# 23 loganmorrison1 @ 01/18/12 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by opd897
I love this game and still play '11 on a regular basis. That being said, I'm still in the early stages on whether or not to spend another 60 bones on this game. I may decide just to keep and play '11. SCEA has done a super job and there is just not that much that can be improved upon in the game play department, imo of course.

I watched the video and while it is great I didn't see that much of a difference from it and what I have in "11. An early build? Most likely but..........

Will wait and see, it's still early, but right now I'm not sure if I would spend the money on the upgrades I've seen so far.
I'm in the same boat, I love SCEA and what they do, but this one seems a little too much like the year before. We already got word franchise was going to be relatively the same, I have yet to see any additional stat overlays, and the commentary is pretty much the same. Unfortunately, this might be a pass for me unless I see some more enhancements. I know we have that new Diamond game, but I'm a straight up franchise player and would love to start doing a MOM whenever they give that an overhaul, been a couple years long overdo.
 
# 24 The Bimmer @ 01/18/12 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Perfect Zero
What do you people want with commentary? Even if they added a thousand new lines, they would still say the same things over and over again. There is a finite amount of things they can say in the game; this isn't real life.

Not buying a game because there was no new commentary? Give me a break...
Thats a pretty good sales pitch you got there.
 
# 25 GibsonD90 @ 01/18/12 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by M_F_Z
No, I also turn off the commentators. No matter what sports game I play they always get repetitive and I like to feel like I'm on the field.
Same here. I just don't want to hear most sports commentators. I would listen to John Madden when he was on it, but now that he is gone I can't stand to hear Chris Collinsworth. Same with The Show. I play with them on for a while, but now I usually play some games and listen to music or a podcast. Still a great game.
 
# 26 Doormat @ 01/18/12 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Perfect Zero
What do you people want with commentary? Even if they added a thousand new lines, they would still say the same things over and over again. There is a finite amount of things they can say in the game; this isn't real life.

Not buying a game because there was no new commentary? Give me a break...
Yeah we're mostly hearing the same things from that video because they can't add new lines to every single play possible in the game.. it's baseball guys remember the saying anything happens in baseball? They can't update their commentary to every single thing. For those of you still on the fence because of the commentary then wait for a video around February or something, it might change your view.. it might not.
 
# 27 jrivera34 @ 01/18/12 09:40 PM
If it wasn't for the vita I could pass on this year as well but with the ability to take my franchise on the road my normal $60 investment will be $450. Damn you SCEA :-)
 
# 28 Geolink @ 01/18/12 09:46 PM
OMG this game is looking epic.

Loving how sweet the balls look once it gets hit and the fluidity of it all.
 
# 29 ARoid1313 @ 01/18/12 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by M_F_Z
SCEA doesn't try to reinvent the wheel every year. It's baseball. They build on the solid foundations they laid the year before.

The ball physics and swings are noticeably different from last year.

The guys saying it's the same as last year are watching with bias in my opinon.
no bias man it is what it is. u say its a big difference, I say its very minimal at first glance. We both have our opinions.
I truly love this game and am still creating players and playing tons of games, but the commentary is close to the same. Everything that Karros says in that vid is exact script as last year. The whole "with 2 outs this team is still dangerous" quote has been played a countless number of times. Would have been nice to replace some of these repetitive quotes from last year with new ones. (could still happen, early build)
As for the game itself.. visually it is identical to last year, not saying that's a bad thing, but with many games continually pushing the bar graphically each year, I feel that the show has a danger of being passed, especially with the way some stadiums look. I strongly feel the players are some of the best models in the business, however there's starting to be a real big disconnect between the players and the stadiums..
again just my opinion
 
# 30 ARoid1313 @ 01/18/12 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by M_F_Z
What MLB game is passing The Show visually ?

What do you mean when you say " real big disconnect between the players and the stadiums " ?
Just games in general. The other MLB game is not worth mentioning.

by disconnect i mean the players look much better than their environments
 
# 31 econoodle @ 01/18/12 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ARoid1313
Just games in general. The other MLB game is not worth mentioning.

by disconnect i mean the players look much better than their environments
aroid, this a quote i haven't heard much say, but putting in 10 just now, i tend to agree.
i had always thought the player models were so good it actually made the other things look less, well, great.
Tho, i wouldn't say much better.
Its not like Angelina Jolie standing in a McDonalds, but u get the idea.

i am sure some will take that as me saying the Show graphics suck, but whatever.
I do agree with that and it hasn't been said much.


Again, the graphics, what else can be done, I have a feeling the ps3 has hit its peak as far as the Show goes.
 
# 32 HustlinOwl @ 01/18/12 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by M_F_Z
No, I also turn off the commentators. No matter what sports game I play they always get repetitive and I like to feel like I'm on the field.
this is why I say it is all overrated NBA 2k11 in my Kings dynasty got tired of hearing how so and so got their tooth stuck in an elbow. All becomes repetitive
 
# 33 42 @ 01/18/12 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ARoid1313
Just games in general. The other MLB game is not worth mentioning.

by disconnect i mean the players look much better than their environments


Just noticed your username...


 
# 34 ARoid1313 @ 01/18/12 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 42
Just noticed your username...


what about the user name??
 
# 35 econoodle @ 01/18/12 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 42
Just noticed your username...


 
# 36 davis420 @ 01/18/12 10:28 PM
If the Show was totaly different from last year, people would be complaining about all the bugs from a new build! The Show is golden in my eyes, easily worth the $60. How can you complain about a game that you haven't even played yet? Look what happened with NBA Elite, total crap trying something new. If it isn't broke, don't mess with it!
 
# 37 tree3five @ 01/18/12 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ARoid1313
what about the user name??
i think hes a yankee fan
 
# 38 nomo17k @ 01/18/12 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JustOpinions
To those trying to defend the whole commentary thing, just no. Its been an on going issue, SCEA knows about it and claimed to have changed it.
This build like mentioned was definatley not the full build, we dont know when commentary is implemented and at what stage. However if this is what we should expect, people have a right to be disappointed.
True alot of a broadcast script will READ the same, but that doesnt mean it has to SOUND the same considering its been used since MLB 07 and again has been a major complaint for the past 2 years.
Obviously people will buy the game, but commentary being stale will be a letdown by many if this is indeed the case period
This video is from CEA right? I thought Ramone wrote somewhere in those CEA interview threads that the build has about a bit more than 50% of planned updates in (w.r.t. presentation). Half full, half empty? Depends.

To me, commentary *will* be stale within a single cycle no matter how much effort the devs put into it, just because certain amount of repetitions cannot be avoided (unless you have unlimited amount of memory to store the audio files, which we presumably don't). Of course it's better to hear something fresh in each iteration, but it will almost never be a deal breaker as long as other parts of the game improve enough to make the whole experience better.
 
# 39 econoodle @ 01/18/12 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JustOpinions
To those trying to defend the whole commentary thing, just no. Its been an on going issue, SCEA knows about it and claimed to have changed it.
This build like mentioned was definatley not the full build, we dont know when commentary is implemented and at what stage. However if this is what we should expect, people have a right to be disappointed.
True alot of a broadcast script will READ the same, but that doesnt mean it has to SOUND the same considering its been used since MLB 07 and again has been a major complaint for the past 2 years.
Obviously people will buy the game, but commentary being stale will be a letdown by many if this is indeed the case period
Just, in my defense, I was giving pros and cons, being honest.

i think the Shows commentary is behind many of my favorite sports games and I think it needs a re-read of all these lines, and Campbell taking a powder before he ruins his real life announcing name.


That said, it might be way better than what we heard in this thread. then it might be only different in the way its presented in franchise.
I can imagine online or play now people being upset if it still sounds like all three guys are in different time zones.

I do think calling a grounder to second can't be much different after 199 times, but I agree, it wouldn't hurt to change the darn script.
Its not that good.

is it the words given, or the talent.
I have seen goood announcers, come off poorly in video games, [gus johnson anyone?}.

I think the negativity shines when its the same announcers.
Lots of peeps are just sick of Dave and matt.
Would it matter if it was Al Leiter reading the same line?
I dont know. I think these guys signed a longer contract than A-Rod! WTH! lol

Why would sony sign long term contracts to announcer for a video game?
Unless there's other reasons why we r stuck with them.
:0
 
# 40 JT30 @ 01/18/12 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by M_F_Z
SCEA doesn't try to reinvent the wheel every year. It's baseball. They build on the solid foundations they laid the year before.

The ball physics and swings are noticeably different from last year.

The guys saying it's the same as last year are watching with bias in my opinon.
If the ball physics were completely trashed and redone, how is that building on a foundation from previous years?
 


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